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...and just where did the Jews come from? Didn't they flee Egypt out of slavery (after their "God" supposedly killed all the first-born sons of Egyptians)? And didn't they eventually end up in Canaan? And was Canaan occupied then by the Canaanites? And didn't then the Jews try to seize their land (again, with the help of their "God") by killing a lot of the Canaanites? And weren't the Canaanites the forefathers of the Palestinians who then became the major occupants of that area when the Jews dispersed into other areas?

Oh, I see now. The information in my links are rubbish, but the information in your links are true. My bad...

I've read enough of the history to know all I need to understand the nature of this conflict. The land was initially called "Canaan" in the Bible and Torah and was also then called "Palestine" after the Arab peoples who lived there called the Philistines. Here is my favorite site on the history of the area: Palestine | HISTORY , Religion & Conflicts | HISTORY

There will be an end to the conflict only when one side is destroyed - whichever one. 1920s?? Are you serious - the Jews lived in those lands thousands of years ago. When WW2 ended there was still a lot of Jews living in those lands. When WW2 ended many more Jews returned to their 'homeland'. History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia If you read the information in the link I noted above, you'll see that the Jews historically were not the inhabitants of that land. And it wasn't until the 1920s that the land of Palestine was suggested to be "given" to the Jews (by the UK) as their "homeland." But yes, after WW2, many, many Jews from Europe immigrated to what is now called "Israel."

Yes, the UN voted for that. The occupants of the territory, the Palestinians, didn't.

We agree there will be no end to this conflict. I won't bother responding to your points one by one, but I will say I only completely disagree with #1 if you believe in the story of Exodus in the Old Testament or the Torah. Anyway, in the 1920s, the Jewish population in the territory called Palestine was only about 9%. Palestine | HISTORY , Religion & Conflicts | HISTORY

Your knowledge on the subject is minimal , maybe you should read more and write less ? Otherwise posters must spend their time continually correcting your mistakes Please point out my mistakes....

I'm only responding to the @OneMoreFarang post quoted above... Let's say you live in a great big two- or three-story house a total of 10 rooms. You live there mostly with your family and just a few others. One day, someone comes who claims to "own" the house and tells you that they have given it to another family who will be moving in over the next several weeks. As this new family moves in, they slowly force your family out of the rooms they occupied, often by force, and eventually into just two rooms, which are, of course, now very crowded. That's an analogy of what's happened to the large house called "Palestine" that is now called "Israel." The two single rooms where your family lives now are on different floors, and the occupants are not allowed to freely visit each other. These rooms are called "Gaza" and "The West Bank." How would you feel, and what would you try to do about it? Again, and as always, this is MY OPINION as to what has happened in Palestine over the past hundred years or so.

Yes, there are two sides, and neither side is what it pretends to be. One side is trying to expel those who are forcibly occupying land that they have lived in for centuries and believe is theirs. The other side is trying to occupy land that they believe has been given to them by the most powerful Western states of the world and their "God" by expelling the former occupants I see no end to this conflict.

I will make whatever comments I feel appropriate. You may not agree with them, but that doesn't mean they are trolling. As I've noted in detail in a prior post, I refer to the people of Israel as "Israelis" and the right-wing, militant faction there as "Zionists." Just as I refer to the people of Gaza and The West Bank as "Palestinians" and the right-wing, militant faction there as "Hamas." I am not whining. I don't whine. I just call out what I think are your inappropriate comments, like calling my comments "stupid" and my opinions "ridiculous" or "delusions" instead of just disagreeing with them, and calling me names like "troll." You don't own this forum, and I have the right to post my opinions on the topic discussed, even if you disagree with them.

If we on this forum argue over such stupid things and call each other names, how could we ever expect Hamas and Zionists to come to any kind of reasonable agreement?

This is a good example of what Bkk Brian and I were discussing. I only copied the pertinent part - not all of the post (rule, in this case).

I can only read and respond to one post at a time.

"...except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. " That was my purpose, not altering the context.

I would be very happy if I could count on not getting a response from you in the future. I'll check the forum rules, but I didn't know we had to quote everything. They do have give us the capability of only quoting portions of something. Why would they do that if quoting the entire post was a rule? (Of course, I know I can't expect an answer to that question from you since you're not responding to me anymore. Maybe someone else could comment...) @Morch ?

Oh, yes, I forgot. Excuse me. Only YOUR opinions should be considered. Mine are all "delusions" and trolling. I'll try to meet your expectations a little better next time.

I do this often. I only quote the portions of a post to which I want to respond.

Morch, We do agree! We're getting closer and closer together! Above, you're expressing an OPINION! (Not one I necessarily agree with, but...) Good for you!

The ICJ's provisional decision makes it awkward for the US, because if the Zionists in Isreal continue to kill hosts of Palestinians while going after Hamas, the US's financial support of Israel in this matter will become very politically awkward. Especially because the US will be having a presidential election later this year.

...and as reported on CNN and acknowledged by the ICJ...

For a BIG CHANGE, I agree with Morch. I don't think Hamas will release the hostages, at least not all of them, until there is a definite ceasefire.

Thanks, I did check and found the link. And, yes, I did see it and disregarded it. As I said in a number of my recent posts, I don't intend to discuss the details of the ruling, just acknowledge the ruling itself.

Help! I disagree!

I did not know of the other topic, and I did not intend to discuss the details of the ruling here. But I don think a mention of the ruling itself is very relevant to this topic.

I responded to your other post. I'm not a troll. I'm a forum participant engaging in disucssions.