JonnyF

Nice attempt at deflection.???? There are plenty of Trump threads available for your obsession, so let's keep this one on topic.

So you are saying that anyone who has purchased a "proper" EV is an expert, and anyone who hasn't purchased one knows nothing about them? That's some logic right there, I'm starting to see why you like them so much ???? I don't own a "proper" EV because I have researched the environmental impact of building them and decided that it is not only damaging to the environment, but expensive and inconvenient to use. I rarely use my electric mountain bike because it's so much easier to use one of my ICE bikes. Plus I don't want to end up stranded staring at a bonfire if the roads flood while riding it.

A silly attempt at deflection. Made worse by the fact it is inaccurate. https://northeastpost.co.uk/article/Europes-Worst-Countries-To-Drive-In

I own an electric mountain bike and drive a Camry Hybrid. Next...

Fitting.

Good to see Pelosi removed. https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/10/03/congress/mchenry-pelosi-hideaway-office-house-remove-00119803

I've posted many times on the folly of EV's. If people want to waste their money and inconvenience themselves that's up to them but when they start bursting into flames in the car park and/or destroying the roads then it starts to affect me so of course it is a genuine concern. You should be caring about how much it weighs compared to an ICE saloon. Comparing apples to oranges is silly, I explained that to you already and I would have expected you to understand it. If/when electric pickup trucks are released, we'll have a whole new level of weight to be concerned about. If you really cared about the planet you'd keep your existing vehicle for another 10 years. I'm sure you are aware of the environmental impact of manufacturing these things.

Højlund looked good last night. Looks like a good signing. Onana is having a 'mare though. United's one saving grace last season was their defence (mainly due to DDG) and now they look like they need to score at least 4 to have a chance of winning. Could be tough to qualify from here...

It's a genuine concern. People need to be aware of the damage they are doing, even if like you they couldn't care less.

Don't be silly. It's about comparing like with like. An electric truck would weigh much more than the ICE versions you showed. We can all compare apples to oranges to attempt to prove a point. How about we compare an ICE Suzuki Celerio to a Tesla Model X? 820 kg vs 2771 kg. Fair? Fact is, when comparing apples to apples, electric vehicles are a lot heavier and therefore have increased tyre wear and damage roads more. Not exactly green, but then neither is mining lithium and cobalt. They can also do more damage in a collision. But hey, if it makes you feel like you're saving the world who cares about little Timmy getting mowed down by 3 tonnes of batteries?

Yes, let's compare a sedan to a massive truck. Great idea.

Oh really? https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/06/27/evs-cause-twice-the-road-damage-of-petrol-vehicles-study-reveals/ It would appear I am not the one who needs to inform myself.

I do. I love rap. In particular I love 80's and 90's gangster rap. What I don't love is entitled idiots like the Brit in this case. What was he expecting? Everyone take the knee and apologize for their whiteness? A free meal as an act of reparation? Ask him to sign their copy of White Fragility? You're not in Islington now pal. If you don't like menus in Russian and Russian music maybe it's best to avoid Russian restaurants... Just a thought...

I doubt the fatal shooting of the Chinese lady in Siam Paragon is going to help...

That's true. All that extra weight and torque damages road surfaces as well.

Of course. There is nothing wrong with controlled, legal immigration.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-idalia-electric-car-caught-fire-tesla/

He was probably expecting everyone to bend over backwards for him and throw a party in the name of diversity and inclusion - for fear of being called a Racist, as he is used to in Britain. It's black history month after all. How dare they turn off his music for a larger group. Send in Dr Shola immediately.

Wait for a few more incidents like this and premiums will inevitably rise as they have in the UK. Or a bad raining season. Fortunately, the batteries are stored at the bottom of the car.????

A good healthy wet season. Great news. Although I'm sure the climate alarmists will be along shortly to tell us they saw Noah's ark on their way to Nana ????.

A bit unfortunate against Palace I thought. Could have got a draw with a bit of luck. On the plus side, still top half and above Chelsea.

Trump didn't mention race, did he? You did.

Why are you trying to turn this into a race issue?

Good to see Poland protecting it's borders (and thus, it's citizens). Let's hope this becomes a trend.

Yeah I saw that as well. On top of all the other hassles owning an EV, you now have to pay 5,000 GBP (240,000 THB) for annual insurance. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs There's your fuel savings gone. Lucky electricity is dirt cheap.... oh wait a minute... EDIT ; I actually raised the possibility of insurance hikes when they starting burning out in shopping malls here in Thailand but was laughed at. Hmmmm.....