JonnyF

41 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I don't buy anything you are saying and it seems your just detached from the America I know. But back to your point challenge your avoiding and answer the question. This in not about an argument it is about verifiable facts. 

 

"Please share with me anything on the progressive side that compares with birtherisim, QAnon, and the belief in stolen election"

Your honour, I present exhibit number 2.

I'll give this one a miss. 

I managed a couple of hours at the Mardi Gras in Sydney in 1998. Biggest collection of attention seekers I have ever witnessed at a single gathering. Look at meeeeeeeee.

It was all a bit cringe really .

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Please share with me anything on the progressive side that compares with birtherisim, QAnon, and the belief in stolen elections? 

I'm not here to be goaded into taking one side or another.

I refuse to a) waste my day arguing on the internet and b) become part of the problem.

I'm simply highlighting the way the country is ripping itself apart from within. It would appear you are too engrossed in the battle to see the bigger picture.

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Good point. What reall condemns the left is their support of the birther movement, QAnon, and stolen election conspiracy theories. Clearly, whatever crazy vicious beliefs right wingers endorse pale by comparison.

Thankyou for proving my point.

You are an excellent example of 50% of the problem. Your hatred of Trump (while some 'dislike' of Trump can IMO be justified) blinds you to the massive failings and hypocrisy of the Democrats. A fully paid up member of the 2 party system. So distracted by bickering with the "enemy" while the country falls off the edge of a cliff.

Sad to see. 

500,000 Baht?

More like 10,000 each.

I feel sorry for the dogs but at least they are still together. Hopefully the loan shark gives them to a dog lover.

4 hours ago, giddyup said:

I want to know how they are entitled to a police escort.

They weren’t.

There’s a video showing them in traffic with police cars behind them with sirens on.

When the traffic moves they go straight on at the junction and the police turn right. The police were stuck in traffic behind them, attending to another issue.

Nobody was troubling them in the video. It’s more fabricated drama.

2 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:

 

Britain is no longer in Europe and this means it's of vital importance that a big and comprehensive trade deal with China must be agreed and signed.  A British ex-prime minister turning up in Taiwan is simply antagonising Chinese in Beijing, it's going to diminish Britain's position in front of China. This visit by this blonde woman is disastrous for Britain.

You go on about human rights in China ?  Let's all be honest. If China wants to butcher Chinese in China, well, let them do it. Who cares ?  If America or Britain sends soldiers to China, to prevent Chinese killing Chinese, well, what's the point ?  If one American or British soldier dies to prevent ten or twenty people in China being killed, that's still a waste of an American or British soldier.

Let them do it.  Same as Middle East types fighting each other. Or Africans fighting other Africans.  Why on earth waste our money and waste our own soldiers' lives, for what ?

 

We are still in Europe - check the map Bro. No longer in the EU though. I would hope you understand the difference.

What’s your issue with “blonde women”? Expensive divorce? Or simply another misogynist exposed ?

We don’t have to stop their behaviour with military force but we don’t need to get into bed with them economically either. That would be hypocritical, we should leave that type of hypocrisy to left wing governments. The Conservatives should remain above that.

53 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

It is not a case of pick your side - it is recognising that a politician of genuinely staggering incompetence and a total lack of self-awareness is parading herself on the world stage, in one of the most fragile of geopolitical spats, as if she is Kofi Annan, whereas the reality is that she is very, very out of her depth. You don't send a clown to perform open heart surgery. She has no business there. 

I suppose it's best everyone just ignores what is happening?

5 hours ago, candide said:

Leftists are siding with China?

Are you surprised? China is a communist country.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Leftist apologists for the brutal communist regime’.

 

What on earth triggered that.

 

 

Whenever Truss criticizes China the usual left wing posters side with China and denigrate Truss. Given China's human rights record it is absurd, but that is the lunacy of the left.

I guess left wing extremists put socialist ideology ahead of human rights. Sad.

On 5/13/2023 at 2:01 PM, RuamRudy said:

You wrote "the British do what we do" as if to imply that brexit had the majority support of the country. At least, that was what I inferred.

 

If, however, you did not intend to suggest that brexit had the support of the majority of the electorate then I humbly apologise.

The British do what we want as a direct result of the majority of the British electorate who chose to take up their right to vote, voting to leave the EU.

I’m sure you’d apply the same logic to indyref2 in the unlikely event the Scottish people were stupid enough to vote for Independence.

Or would you reject a 60/40 vote to leave the uk because only 70% of those eligible to vote chose to do so?

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

More likely that the Politicians want a two month summer break from going to work at Parliament and repealing those laws and have postponed it until next year .

   Remainers are trying to portray this as the U.K changing its mind about Brexit and wanting to keep the laws , whereas its just been delayed for a few months 

Good points. Well made.

The timeframe is irrelevant. The fact is that it is our right to remove every single one, if and when we wish to do so.

Since leaving the EU, we do what we want.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s a lot more than one horse.

And a lot of mucking out to do.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Wild goose chase’

 

Well yes, that does describe the futility of getting Brexiteers to name anyone of 4000 so called ‘EU laws’ they want to get rid of and explain why.

You want to get rid of stuff, but you can’t say way stuff and you can’t say why.

 

 

We left the EU so my default position is to remove them all, when we decide to do so. We are British so we do what we want, when we want.

If you think any specific laws are worth keeping, list them and make a detailed case why they should be kept.
 

If I can be bothered, I will dismiss them one by one. 

22 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Much as I think Brexit was the most ill thought out, self harming, disastrous thing that any UK government has implemented in the last 30 years, and much as I despise the fact that it was all based on a pack of lies and it has made the UK a worse place and it has stripped the rights of free movement of my children (mostly because of bigoted logic), nobody is going to stand on a platform of rejoining. Not because they don't think that leaving was a huge mistake but because we would be rejoining in an extremely weak position.

 

We had exceptional power and rights in the EU, we had the power to opt out of things we didn't like (single currency, Shengen), we had special privileges that "normal" member states did not have. We had negotiated excellent rebates. If we rejoin that tomorrow all of that is gone. Gone forever, we would NEVER have those special privileges again, we have lost our bargaining power completely. And no, they don't need us more than we need it. Add to that the ill feeling created by our ridiculous antics, by poisonous buffoons like Farage, Johnson et al.  And all member states would have to agree to have us - - I wouldn't want us back after the way we've behaved!

So campaigning on a promise to rejoin would be pointless as I don't think we even could rejoin for the next 20 years.

Straight from the horses mouth. Even Remainers think Rejoining is a bad idea.

13 minutes ago, puchooay said:

Here are the facts,

 

UK has left EU.

 

There have been no calls for another referendum.

 

No political parties have said they support rejoining 

 

But But But...

The Guardian did a poll. 

????

17 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Of course if BOTH the Democrats and the GOP worked in favour of the country and the people it would be so much easier.

Agreed.

17 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

However, the GOP keeps playing its own silly game, so there is NO progress.

I'm sure the Republicans will bail them out eventually for the sake of the world economy. But the same as when dealing with children you have to make them realise the implications of their actions before immediately covering their mistakes for them.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We are still waiting for Brexiteers to name any one of these 4000 so called ‘EU laws’ they wish to remove and tell us why.

 

The best they have is some general non specific reference to laws, no details of what laws, no explanation of why the specific laws need to be removed.

 

No wonder the Government are binning the idea.

We are still waiting for you to realize that your tactic of sending people on a wild goose chase to deflect is not only boring but repetitive and predictable.