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When submitting for Wealthy Pensioner application which was approved did you use employer income statements (like your 1st post above indicates) or did you provide retiree pension statements (like you 2nd post above indicates)? And if it was work income did that comprise the majority of your income versus pension/fixed income being the majority? If it was employer income statements maybe on this 2nd application to correct the passport issue maybe they just noticed a pension income statement(s) should have been submitted on the 1st application/should have comprised the a large part of total income.

It think they are just slow. Heck, even with the low numbers applying since the LTR 1 Sep kickoff it seems it still takes around a month for most approved applicants to get that initial approval notice. If this program had had large number of folks applying (which it hasn't) it seems the BOI would have been overwhelmed and possibly taken months to provide an initial approval.

One of the briefing slides for the APEC meeting needed some current and higher numbers so the police had a crackdown. That slide has now been updated...so, no more crackdowns until the next big meeting or it's annual performance report time.

Due to "face saving" being so strong in Thailand I doubt the government will seriously consider any possible adjustments until well after the next election when new HiSo's will be in most high level government positions. Those new HiSo's can recommend changes without losing face...they can say the initial requirements were a good start but the new-and-improved requirements are much better....will increase the economy by a zillion baht.

A revised proposal will not be coming back anytime soon....with anytime soon being at least a decade.

Since my application has now been in the system for 10 business days I called the BOI yesterday to check on it status since I had not seen any online status change or got any email since submitting it. The BOI rep took my application number, put me on hold for about 2 minutes, and when coming back online said the application had not been looked at yet.....and how I will be notified via online notification and email of any issues, additional docs needed, etc. I then asked if the BOI is still processing application within 20 business days and the rep said yes. A nice, honest, and professional conversation, but it sounds like my application is still in their "inbox" so to speak.

This 8 minute The Examiner Youtube video on the LTR and LTR land ownership is fresh....approx 2 days old as of today/9 Nov. Several quotes of senior govt personnel such as the Interior Minister regarding the LTR in how it has so far drawn a "mild" and "lukewarm" response, "disappointing" results and accepted the LTR goals may have to be adjusted, only 1,300 applications received since 1 Sep with most being from the US and UK, etc.

I'm not believing for one second they have taken 60,000 people into custody since the 10 Oct crackdown...maybe since the beginning of the year....maybe in their dreams.

No...it will not get off the ground. It was reported in the Bangkok Post today/8 Nov and TheNation last night/7 Nov that the Interior Minister formerly requested withdrawal of the proposal and the Deputy Prime Minister Prawit (the I Don't Know guy) accepted the withdrawal. Summary: the govt has done another U-turn...flip-flop...reneged on the proposal....another half baked scheme thrown out.

TIT https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/policies/40021811 The draft directive allowing wealthy foreigners to buy land has been withdrawn to hear public opinion, Government House said on Monday. Interior Minister Anupong Paochinda signed an order to revoke the Cabinet's approval for the scheme.

Well, that invasion fell a little short.

About a month ago for my 3rd marriage extension of stay at CW....I live in Bangkok.

In doing my marriage extensions of stay all I have ever been required to provide is a copy of the marriage certificate (kor for 3) and certificate still married (kor ror 2). But since you are getting your initial Non O marriage visa the "certifying martial status" is supposedly required according to that list you provided. Expect only you or the "office you originally registered at" would have a copy.

You will not need that since you said you have already registered your marriage in Thailand.

You can go to "any" amphoe/district office in Thailand to get the marriage doc. Your Thai wife will probably be the one needing to request the doc (a.k.a. Kor Ror 2/Kor Ror 22).

All depends on your situation....do you need the LTR visa in your passport before arriving Thailand or can wait to after you enter Thailand on another type of Visa/visa exempt.. It's a two step process 1st step process is to apply and get approved at the BOI LTR website....and during that application process you tell them if approved whether you want to get the LTR issued (put in your passport) at the BOI Immigration in Bangkok (requires an appointment) or at a Thai embassy. Step 1 is the key step....the most important step....not getting approved in step 1 means there is no step 2. If your LTR application is approved you then can move on to the 2nd step in getting the approved LTR paid for and issued at BOI Immigration in Bangkok or a Thai embassy some around the world where you would probably use the e-visa system. You have 60 days from the date of the LTR Endorsement letter (i..e, approval) to apply for the visa issuance. As mentioned the 1st step is the most important...that is, applying for and getting approved for an LTR visa. The 2nd step of apply for/paying for it within 60 days of LTR approval is more of an administrative, sweeping-up operation. Basically, you've been approved--now take step 2 and pay for the visa issuance. If you can wait to pay/get the approved LTR entered in your passport at BOI then the fee is Bt50K versus a possibly higher fee (due to embassy used exchange rate) at a Thai embassy where you may have to use the e-visa system. But if you need/want the visa in your passport "before" arriving Thailand in order to get into Thailand then you pretty much must have it issued at a Thai embassy.

Thanks....ltr is still processing.....ain't got a clue if it will be approved....especially the Tricare insurance. I figure I will not know for "at least" another two weeks....probably three.

That's all you can do. Since the top of the checklist which you must include in the package is titled as snapshot below which requires your initials on the checklist I guess that good enough for them. The certified copy "might" include a statement somewhere on it that the certified copy is for application of SS/federal benefits which you will be sending to SS FBU Manila. Now "before" if you went to the embassy/consulate to get the blessed copy of your passport/naturalization certificate for SS benefit purposes the embassy/consulate would also send those blessed copies directly to Manila FBU for you....OR, you could have them back for you to mail/email. I said "before" because the last person I hand-walked thru this process (a dual U.S./Thai citizen) about five years ago I told her when getting the fee-free certified copies ask them if they would send to the Manila FBU since it part of the U.S. Embassy-Manila....and the U.S. Embassy-Bangkok gladly did such. They apparently used embassy to embassy post....it just went from embassy to embassy. "If they will still do this" when a person askes that can save a person money in mailing costs/time from Thailand to Manila unless the Manila FBU rep has said they will accept a scanned/faxed/email copy of the certified copy. When the person came back from the embassy we sent an email to the Manila FBU saying the Bangkok embassy had blessed and sent the docs to Manila. In only four days later after notifying Manila the Bangkok embassy had sent the docs the Manila FBU rep replied saying the docs had been receive via post and her application was approved.

No...it means just above the passport main page (main page is page 2 of passport...page with your photo) there is a place on page 3 for your signature where you are suppose to sign as soon as you get the passport. Summary: ensure you have signed your passport on passport page 3 signature line.

Below snapshot is a [artial quote of a Dept of State (DoS) Foreign Affairs Manual (FAM) talking how the DoS (which includes its embassies) will bless (i.e., notarize) docs related to Social Security Regional Foreign Benefit Office (like Manila SS FBU) when that office requests it from the person applying. In the past this request would normally be a sentence in an email/docs from Manila saying they needed to see your original passport and/or naturalization certificate (or whatever doc) "OR" a certified/notarized copy. That was proof to the embassy you were indeed applying for federal benefits....be sure to show them the request from SSA/Manila in order to get the fee-free notarization. Now below FAM doesn't get into fees; just says the SSA reimburses the DoS for services. Additionally, there is a DoS regulation that states in a paragraph they will not charge a fee for notarization of docs required for federal benefits like SS.....and if I remember right it even applied to state and maybe local govt benefits....I have posted it once or twice years back in old AseanNow threads/posts relating to SS application and just can't find it now....I should have bookmarked that reg but I didn't. https://fam.state.gov/fam/07fam/07fam0530.html

If you clearly identified/proved you needed the SS papers for application of federal benefits (like an email/doc from SS/Manila FBU saying they needed to see your original or a certified/notarized copy of your passport and/or naturalization certificate you may want to try to get a refund. At the U.S. Embassy Bangkok website it even says no fee for SS application like when using their mail-in service to get your docs blessed. No fee also if you make an in-person appoint. There is a U.S. State Dept regulations that also says (or use to say...expect it still does) no fee for notarization of docs required for federal benefits...and it might have even been for state/local govt benefits also....today I google a little and see if I can stumble across that St Dept regulation again.. Below from US Embassy-Bangkok Website https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/certified-true-copies-of-original-documents-and-foreign-passports-for-use-with-social-security-applications-when-requested-by-fbu-manila/ And another US Embassy-Bangkok webpage talking notary services they "can" provide (and those they can't) https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/

The person doing it was obviously unaware they were not suppose to charge you per St Dept regulation.

And keep in mind those blessed/notarized copies are free when applying for federal benefits like SS pension....don't let them mistakenly charge you $50 per notarized copy.

@Billpro785 I think you may have the cart before the horse. As Misty pointed out you need to get approved for an LTR Visa by the Thailand Board of Investment (BOI) before you can apply to have the stamp issued at a Thai embassy. Applying for a LTR Visa approval is a completely separate process from applying for issue of the LTR Visa stamp at a Thai embassy.