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Yes. The same to you and everyone else.

Agreed Rooo, though not perhaps for the reasons above.

I'm due to be there in a few weeks time. Think ill cancel the hotel booking now. No way I'm going there without electricity.

That's the spirit ! Good Lord ! Enjoy wherever you go. I'm sure we will really miss you !

When I saw the hight difference I assumed it was to allow for the tarmac

that will come one day

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Probably is. That's what they normally do.

Nanny and cook are 2 separate jobs!

All depends of the level of care and education you desire for your children!

Anyone with half a brain can cook.

3000bht amonth for the cook

????bht for the nanny (Philipino or backpackers can make good temp nanny's if you do your checks etc)

3000 baht a month for a cook? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!

I suppose it would be cynical to suggest that the timing of this shutdown, when there are hugely fewer tourists around spending their money at night, is rather convenient ?

Oh dear. Terribly sad and a terrible shock for his poor family. R.I.P..

You will be admitted to the party after you log in to the site on a laptop provided at the venue. Then the key-logger will keep track of everyone's password (for security reasons) and then at least one person, the one validating the log-in, will know exactly who you are, so any anonymity you previously enjoyed will be gone. ....

However, since Thaivisa welcomes all to join and post, the party will be open to anyone. No way this will be some insiders' club meeting.

If you want to announce who you are, there will be name stickers on which you can write your onscreen handle.

That sounds about right.

I can quite understand why it would be much safer for YOU to keep your identity secret.

Walking in the busiest bar zone,from what i could gather....The big boys from Bangkok are here,so will be testing across the island for weeks...

Well i for one think this is a good sign, and hopefully not just a tidy up while the big boys are in town. It's the most horrible drug, it puts so many innocent people in danger if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Whilst I do agree that ice/yabba/crack etc. are terrible substances, I think it's 100% a case of putting on a show for the little circus monkey generals - in the wrong place. Of course in their simplistic little minds it's the farang that make the problem here but in reality the main problem lies with the Thai youth - who are nowhere near these bars. It's an easy way for the local enforcement officers to pretend to do their jobs; hell - they most likely supplied it, or facilitated the supply in the first place. Personally I take issue with this - everyone has the right to privacy and deserves to be treated with dignity - unless you are aprehended actually breaking the law. If they first test their own politicians, civil servants and police force the results would be astonishing... Test high school kids and uni students prior to graduation and see how big the problem really is. When last have you heard of a farang going beserk and running amok high on these drugs here? In seven years I have never but such incidents occur amongst Thai youths every day.

pretty obvious invasion of privacy that wouldn't fly in any developed nation, but hey TIT. doesn't matter if you partake or not, the police doing this is no better than the person taking ya ba.

just for the record, not sure if you saw a thread that i posted here a week or two ago about a 6ft+ 250lb farang whacked out on drugs going crazy and fighting with police, so they tied him to a tree with aquarium tubing and gave him an injection into his foot to calm him down, i even added a pic.

What a bizarre post! Hypocritical or what!

The poster comments that it's a "pretty obvious invasion of privacy" and that it makes therefore the *police doing this no better than the person taking ya ba"

Then he goes on to say he posted a picture of a perpetrator tied to a tree!

Sorry to say this, and it probably makes me a bad person, but I,m delighted this ar----le was hurt by his own explosive. Outside a scholl! Nice.

Sorry, but I sincerely trust he's in a world of pain.

This thread got seriously side-tracked early on.

The operative phrase here was: "One of the vendors stepped in and said to them that I was a very bad farang, ..."

Those of you living here in Thailand/Samui for some length of time ought to have picked this out right away. The subtext here is that for whatever reason (which obviously has not been posted, assuming it is even known to the OP), there has been a rumor(s) started regarding this farang which casts him in a negative light. I don't believe the Thai man was having a bad day, or overprotective of his daughter (a rather paranoid and naive specuation); he had simply heard something from someone and was treating the farang as he had been told: as a bad man. I'd ask the OP to think back and let us know if in the past there was some incident with someone else -- however minor -- that was the kindling for the current fire. Did you innocently tell someone that their mangoes were "แพงมาก" (very expensive) as you practiced your Thai or otherwise rubbed someone the wrong way. I bring up the "expensive" idea because it is one example where something you might say in English, and use when practicing Thai, could be taken the wrong way by a Thai, and could be taken as rudeness.

My feeling is that the OP has some bad press out there (deserved or otherwise) that is queering his pitch.

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"The only good farang is a dead one" is pretty much the attitude of many Thais on Samui. In seven years I have never heard a Thai say,"Hey, there goes a good farang." When I first met my Thai wife several years ago she nervously asked me if I had murdered my wife and children back home. After laughing for several minutes I asked her who had spread that rumour and she said that many people had warned her about me. I told her the next time she heard it to just say that the farang was offering a 1MB reward for anybody who could find a wife or children in his past. The longer you are here the less you are tolerated. Thais like tourists who come here and unload their wallets. If you can't kill the farang at least spread bad rumours about them. Again, this is a generalisation, as I have met many good Thais here, but it only takes a few disgruntled souls to rock the boat. And before you say it, I am here because I love the island, the food, and its attractions. As my wife said to me,"Stay clear of these people as they are not really Thai."

There is clearly something very disturbing about you as far as the Thais are concerned. A Thai attacks you when you talk to his daughter or sister. Some people you were talking to were told you were "a very bad man" and now apparently when you met your wife, she was told you were a murderer!

For goodness sake!

Either you are an unfortunate victim of mistaken identity or someone has been saying bad things about you, or there is something about you that is freaking them out!

Try and work it out.

However although there may well be some endemic resentment towards us by Thai males, I think your case is so extreme that it could hardly be regarded as the norm.

I would like to leave here my feedback of staying on Samui for 5 days.

I stay in Pattaya with my TG who is from Surat Thani. She has been moaning for quite some time that she wanted to go see her mom and other family. So I thought what the heck. Let's go to Samui first and then visit your relatives since neither of us had been there before. If only knew that it was such a ripoff.

Firstly I was surprised to find out that Bangkok Airways had monopoly on the flights to Samui with ridiculous 4000 baht for one person one way from Pattaya. But on the arrival I realized that the whole island is one huge corrupted monopoly. The taxi fare to my hotel which was 7 kilometers from the airport was 350 baht (at first they wanted 500 and were showing me the printed paper with prices but my girl spoke the local dialect to him and the guy said that for just 2 of us he could go 350 the lowest because the boss would cut his balls). There was no meter taxi at the airport only so called "private cars" with fixed prices. On the way my girl spoke to him and he told us that each taxi driver needs to pay 15.000 baht a month to some boss who oversees all the airport taxis. No other taxi companies are allowed so it's a monopoly and they can extort any prices they want because there is no other way to get out of there.

I doubt they could do it without the involvement of the local authorities. So I believe the corrupt Samui authorities do not allow any competition and get its share of profits. And you have similar stories all over the island. There is usually one single agent which operates some kind of activity and charges ridiculuous prices.

The prices of accomodation are high compared to the quality. We were paying about 2500 baht a night for hotel which appeared to be quite old and was way overpriced. The breakfast was shit too. For this money I could get a really nice hotel in Pattaya with nice food. The hotel we stayed in would cost maximum 1500 in Pattaya. The food is 1.5-2 times expensive than in Pattaya and is often crap.

The beach was nice though. But you can get the same beach anywhere in Surat Thani.

Don't get me wrong guys I am not some stingy cheap charlie guy. I never have an issue of paying for something if it is really worth it. I've lived in Thailand for almost a year and have been to many places and I know the real prices of things. And I hate it when people try to charge me 5 times the real price. It just pisses me off enormously and makes me angry. It's the same thai food in a same thai foodmart. It's the same beer, the same bar as everywhere else in Thailand. WHy the heck are the prices 2-3 times higher? Is it any better quality or it's cleaner, safer than anywhere else in Thailand? No. The answer is greed of the owners. I speak fairly good Thai and I spoke to the staff at the hotels and restaraunts. Most of them are from Isan and they earn the same 7-10k baht (a bit higher than in Isan but still shit... and 10k is for the receptionists who have university education). So the owners gets all the excess profit. Call it "Samui rent".

Another thing the place is so overdeveloped and dirty. It's even worse than Ko Chang.

I guess I wouldn't write it if it was my first time in Thailand and I came directly from Europe say in winter. But I am already used to the tropical scenery and the climate which are the same everywhere in Thailand. And I know how much everything is worth in Thailand too. So I hate it when I put myself into tourist traps (which is the whole of Samui).

I think I will never go to Samui again and will not advise my friends to go there. It's just another massive ripoff (together with Phuket) where they charge you European prices for shit. I am sure that people who stay in Samui long term know how to avoid paying tourist surcharge (as well as I know how to avoid it in Pattaya) but it seems like it's very difficult here.

There are still nice places in Thailand like islands in Andaman near Burma with very laid back atmosphere without the ripoff mentality. And these are the locations where they Thais go too. And notice how there are almost no Thai tourists in Samui. They know it's shit for farangs first comers.

I don't suppose many of us residents in Samui enjoy the extra expense too much either, but I suppose it's the price we have to pay for not living in a wonderful place like Pattaya !

Nalak: Hypocrite of the year award. When it happens to you, fury. When it happens to someone else, sounds like a good idea. The mind boggles. I think you just have a chip on your shoulder and trying to troll.

I was going to reply to nalak but you have done it for me and you are spot on.

Agreed. Can only imagine he's missing Samui so much it's finally sent him crackers!

Big Joe's Ashes are still in The Temple at Bohput.

I am delighted you now have this information. Your brother was a well thought of character in Samui. He is missed by many.

I am sorry you had to find out so late. It must have been a great shock to you.

My condolences to you and your family.

'I know what I'd want to do to you!'

I can chuck in some anger management lessons too if you like. :jap:

Good Heavens! What on Earth makes you think I am angry dear fellow.

I was merely commenting on your bad manners. I'm not angry.

I would be if I was the husband, father, boyfriend or brother of any of the girls you so kindly decided to slag off!

I strongly suspect you would be too.

Mind you, as you clearly support the actions of the gutter press and find what you read in their newspapers an excuse for being as rude yourself, maybe not.

I think you do a disservice to the girls who I'm sure are quite capable of looking after themselves without their parents help (except for skeletor she needs help i think)

Ha Ha! I see you have now decided to turn to humour! Yes I suppose it is obvious that it is after all me who has done the disservice to these girls and not you!!!! Oh yes! Now I see it all !!

How very foolish of me!

the thai girl is the only one worth a second look the girl in blue is surely taking the piss being there, not that the girl in black is any better! That skeleton needs a pan of spuds on top of the burgers mentioned above. Jesus wept where did they drag these people from?

So that's the sort of rude moronic sh-t you would expect to read in a newspaper is it? Just imagine if you were the parents or brothers and sisters of these girls that you are so disgustingly rude and dismissive about!

I know what I'd want to do to you!

If I was the parent of one of these girls i'd say don't give up the day job

No you would'nt. If you were the parents of these girls you would be out looking for you!

the thai girl is the only one worth a second look the girl in blue is surely taking the piss being there, not that the girl in black is any better! That skeleton needs a pan of spuds on top of the burgers mentioned above. Jesus wept where did they drag these people from?

So that's the sort of rude moronic sh-t you would expect to read in a newspaper is it? Just imagine if you were the parents or brothers and sisters of these girls that you are so disgustingly rude and dismissive about!

I know what I'd want to do to you!

Sometimes when you have nothing good to say, it's better to say nothing!

You do not listen to your own advice....nor does the guy above you.

Opinions are allowed....up to each other to judge good or bad.

I think she is ugly....so be it.

Thanks for your educational post re. opinions being allowed. However we knew that, as witnessed by the fact that we have already given our opinion of you.

We look forward to you posting your photo on here so that we might make judgemental comments on it for all ( including your family parents etc. ) to see based simply on your appearance.

when i am in bed with mine. Al i can do is think about her.

You fantasise about that girl on the catwalk ??

I would not even dream about her being my maid.

I would not let that thought trouble you as I am totally completely 100% sure she would not dream of being a maid for an offensive rude and judgemental xxxxxx like yourself or any other of the rude "God's gift to women" men that have decided to completely diss these women for no reason. Where are your manners!

He is a Farang, if was not here the accident would not have happened therefor he is at fault.

Lets face it he was probably arrested because he was still there! If it had been a local driver he would probably have fled the scene! This happens time after time after time.

seems as if it were a rather subdued songkran this year on samui. two years ago i spent the day of songkran in my yard and started counting the ambulance sirens as they drove past on the way to nathon hospital. i made a bet with a friend that we would hear at least one dozen go past during the day, we ended up hearing 15 distinctly different ambulances drive past that day.

yesterday, i spent the day in the garden and remembered the number from two years previously. we had a total of 3 ambulances drive past with sirens. i suppose they could have taken the lamai route to nathon. fewer people could have been driving drunk, or the recent storms both weather wise and political could have kept the tourists away.

What an interesting way to spend Songkran. Maybe this could be the start of some kind of new hobby.

Do this resort use golf carts at their place? only it looks like a lot of tyres to me.

ALL establishments regardless of size should take responsibility of keeping their area clean and tidy.

Probably using the "just waiting for someone to pick it up" technique suggested in an earlier post!