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This lady took an oath when accepting her position (voted into office requires an oath) to up hold the laws of the land. Now she is breaking that oath. She swears an oath to the same God to do something and then decided to not do it ....
If she was really true to her beliefs she would quit her job and then not break her oath and also not break her beliefs in that gay marriage is wrong.
If you feel so strong about one you should also feel strong about the other as you would be breaking Gods laws (as she believes) breaking either.
Actually, if she really believes in it she should be stoning them. If she won't do that, then she should sign the stupid pieces of paper. 50% of them will probably be getting divorced anyway.
If she was a Muslim it'd be easier for her as Islam allows you to do things against God's law if it's necessary.
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The county clerk was incarcerated by the court because she was in contempt of the court. The reason why the clerk was in contempt may be relevant but it is not material. In other words, the reason explains it but does not justify it.I am beginning to think that the problem is one of haste. So many in this world want everything NOW, NOW, NOW.
No patience anymore.
Not so long ago, homosexuals were imprisoned for doing it, and shunned if they admitted it, now they are accepted. However, attitudes that were acceptable years ago don't vanish overnight, and perhaps we have to wait for a generation to die out before real change happens.
Women took a long time to get the vote, but it happened and now it's accepted. Blacks in the States were discriminated against, but now the younger generation probably doesn't even think about discrimination.
Perhaps people just need to slow down and accept that some things take time. If they can't get a piece of paper that they like from her, just write her off as a silly misguided person and go elsewhere to get one they like. All this putting people in jail for their beliefs is too OTT for me. Too much like dictatorship.
It matters not what the clerk believes or does not believe. It matters what the clerk does or does not do regarding the law, the Constitution.
Attorneys for the couples are seeking another ruling by the federal judge. It does not matter why the clerk chooses to violate the law because violating the law is the issue. One can say the clerk is violating the law and the Constitution because of her religion and because she is an anarchist who in fact has contempt of the rule of law.
If she truly believes in God and his word as given in the Bible, then God's law trumps earthly law.
Just curious, but where does "God's law" come from exactly? I'm pretty sure it was man's interpretation, if not man's own law, to begin with. So it's all "earthly law."
God's law is written in the Bible, the Jewish holy books and the Koran. Of course you have to believe in a divine being to believe that they were given by God, rather than just by old men with funny hats that wanted to have power and lots of free food.
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"The new licenses say they were issued not under the authority of the county clerk, but "pursuant to federal court order."
This is furthering discriminatory behavior by a public official. It is only for gay couples that this provision is being placed.
Furthermore, the license is a state form established under state law. As such the clerk's alteration of the form is a violation of state law. The State Attorney General should bring criminal charges against the Clerk for defacing the form.
The state attorney general and the state legislature probably support HER. Why would he charge her with anything?
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Sad stuff this.
What gets me is that 11 years ago I met a wonderful Thai lady - a real honey!
First, bought her a m/c - Honda Wave.
About 5 years ago, bought her a car.
This year a quality home.
Now, she desires a new Pajero.
When I got cancer, I made her co-signatory to bank a/cs.
She has been with me through thick & thin.
So far, all is too good, BUT one never knows!
Oh well, if it hits the fan, there is always the Salvos or Vinnies.
I totally trust her but after reading this type of thread, some fear & worry arise.
Friend of mine also has cancer, 3 years now, expensive operations and treatment.
He and his wife have been together 10 years, she's 30 years younger than him.
Throughout she has been a total gem, completely supportive, always acting in his best interests.
He is housebound so she deals with all the finances has his cards and PINs.
UNTIL
Last year, started borrowing money from anyone that would lend (despite an allowance of 50k a month).
My wife lent her 5K, never to be returned, at which point we stopped seeing them ........... he wouldn't be told.
Since then has emptied his bank account (nearly 2M baht). (Info from mutual friends)
Goes out every night, dressed to kill.
He's very sad,and his children in the UK want him to go home and live with them.
He has nothing left in Thailand, his 5M baht house is in her name.
Amazing Thailand. I was actually convinced she was the one that broke the rule.
Some years ago there was a British ex cop married a Thai woman, Some time later he was rescued from a hut in the jungle by a missionary. Apparently he got sick and his wife left him there to die.
Can happen to anyone.
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very strange indeed, I actually thought you married for love, I mean why marry someone you dont trust. I trust my wife implicitly, there are no worries about her stealing my money or anything else. Dont know how you lot that marry much younger women then not trust them live, must be frustrating as sh*t knowing you can never trust her with anything or buy her anything nice. Yes there are some bad ones around, as many as the men that are just as bad and are busy screwing anything they can behind her back to boost their ego's, pretty pathetic really. Occasionally someone is caught out but a lot of us arent and are in very happy marriages, feel sorry for those that are in theirs for the anything other than love, what a waste of a life, at least the poor bugger that was ripped off has enough sense to move on and still trust people, some of you lot must have bloody miserable lives with these untrustworthy females.
How can you say that someone that marries a woman that is half his age, from a different culture, and that probably can't even have a conversation about anything "loves" her? Sure, he lusts for her, and wants to shag his brains out as often as possible, but "love' whatever that is- I doubt it.
Also, "trust" is meaningless. I trusted my ex and she scammed me, I trusted my friend of 20 years and he scammed me. I don't "trust" people anymore.
What do you mean by "can't buy her anything nice"? Nice doesn't have to be expensive.
I trust that my wife isn't with me for the money, as I don't give her enough for her to be a gold digger.
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Go on the internet and look up wedding ceremonies. You will have a wide selection of secular wedding ceremonies available to you. Pick or assemble one to suit and have a Farang friend act as the wedding celebrant and read it out for the two of you. Pick a Maid of Honor and a Best Man to stand up with you (or not) and do the whole thing. No religious readings necessary. Take everyone to a moderately priced restaurant for the party after. Or not. Up to you.
In reply to the responders who "say just have a party"; not the same thing. Thousands of people come to Thailand every year to get married in a symbolic ceremony in which they want to stand up in front of their friends and relatives to proclaim their love and faithfulness to each other in a public display. Most are already legally married or will go to the registry office when they get home. A small percentage will perform a legal ceremony here.
I once performed a secular wedding ceremony for an Aussie couple at the overlook in the south of Phuket. She came from OZ land and he came from Afghanistan where he was stationed in the Aussie army. They had no friends or relatives attending so I just went through the tourists standing around; "you will be the Best man, you will be the Maid of Honor, you will take photos with her camera, the rest of you will be the guests". Had a great wedding and not a dry eye in the place. The couple had a few days together before he went back to Afghanistan and she returned to Australia. I was honored to perform the ceremony for them. I assume that if he survived his tour that they got legally married when he returned to Australia. But meanwhile they had proclaimed their fidelity and love for each other in a public forum and were comforted in their separation.
Sorry, but I don't get that. If I wanted to affirm my love for my wife in a ceremony, I'd want my friends there. If my friends couldn't be there, I'd wait till I was back in my own country to have the ceremony.
As for the Thai ceremony for his wife, either he will have to pay a lot of money which he says he doesn't have, or they can just have a party/ dinner for her friends, at which they will all get pissed at his expense, and talk in Thai, usually about the farang. I refuse to go to any parties with my wife as I am terribly bored not being a big drinker and not understanding anything they say, plus I don't like being gossiped about when I can't understand what they are saying about me.
whatever, the OP needs to decide if he is going to pay a lot or a little, and the choice will be limited by that decision.
I am sorry that you don't get it. You would 'want your friends there' is just your personal preference. Many people get married just for themselves. Re. the Aussie soldier and his girl getting married with no friends or relatives. Who is to say he wouldn't be killed in Afghanistan and not ever be able to marry his girl. People are entitled to their personal preference. The formal ceremony is meaningful for them and they want to do it whether the friends and relatives are there or not. The OP and and his wife want a 'real' ceremony which is a lot different from just signing some papers and paying 200 baht. And only a few of his friends are willing to pay the expense in dollars and time to come to Thailand and he is not financially able to or does not wish to go back to his 'home country' to get married. They are affirming their love and commitment to each other. You are entitled to your own personal feelings about how you would do it but who are you to project your preferences on to other people? I stand by my original post.
If the OP reads this: Regarding your income, I wonder if you would qualify for a US Social Security disability benefit as well as your military disability pay. Check it out.
The Oz soldier and his GF didn't get married, if you read the post. They had a ceremony in a nice scenic place. I'm fine with that, but I don't really understand why it was necessary to have a lot of strangers at a ceremony that had no legal status. They could have held hands and spoken vows to each other, but whatever. Any excuse to have a party.
From what I read the OP doesn't want a "real" Thai ceremony, he wants a non religious ceremony. She may do so, but this thread isn't about her.
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Rubbish. My western ex is the same age as myself, and we had similar backgrounds, yet she became the using b***h from hell and took me for as much as she could get.I don't get it why so many here are blaming Ian and his choice of wife. The whole story here is not really about the wife, who apparently ended up in jail with no money. The story is about the legal system here and groups of people that manage to control it in their own way. The wife would not have been able to pull this off entirely on her own. If she had this plan already when they married or not is irrelevant.
B/c you're asking for trouble when you marry a girl half your age, in Thailand or anywhere else in the world. Things like this are less likely to happen when the ages are closer, the backgrounds are similar, and there's a legit connection between the two people.
And, why would I want to marry an old woman that looks like my granny did before she died? I wasn't after my wife's mind when I asked her to marry me.
You can marry whoever you want. And nothing has to last forever. I think it's safe to say we've arrived at an era where nothing in marriage is guaranteed, nor does it have to be. My point is it's more likely there will be some kind of foul play when the age difference is so big.
I disagree. The only real danger is in marrying someone that insists on having a house, car etc bought for her, a large sin sod that isn't given back, payments to the family etc. Those are all danger signals that the woman is in it for the money. Also, giving the woman lots of money instead of her earning her own money and having joint bank account etc is all leading to temptation for her to take advantage.
Want to be sure she isn't in it for the money- don't buy her anything expensive, don't give sin sod, don't support the family, expect her to work and never give her any knowledge of or access to your money.
I doubt a gold digger would even agree to marry in the first place if that is the reality.
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Who would be your target group of patients?
I suppose you'd have to employ 4 Thais, or whatever the number is now to start a company.
Where would you locate, Pattaya or Chiang Mai?
Do you have lots of money for advertising etc?
1. expats, tourists. Locals wellcome
2.yes, I believe so.
3.Pattaya or Bangkok
4. Enough money, not unlimited funds,otherwise I would build my own hospital
How could you treat Thais when you say you only have basic Thai? Your wife is also foreign so you have no local connections.
Poor Thais already have clinics they go to, and I doubt you'd make anything on what they charge. Rich Thais go to expensive Thai hospitals.
I doubt you'd find a niche in Bkk, but Pattaya, Hua Hin, Phuket or Chiang Mai, if you were in the right area you might.
If you have as much money as you seem to believe you have, you can get a retirement extension on an O visa, and have a nice holiday in Thailand for as long as you want.
I can communicate with Thais rather well. I have lived in Thailand summing up it all, about 5 years in total. I consider my Thai as basic, mainly because I need more work on writing in Thai or reading advanced thai texts ( no problem with medical texts in Thai).
Poor thais are NOT my target group nor other poor patients as I am not planning to work for charitable NGOs.Of course many times in my career I had to help poor patients withouts asking much. Rich thais may very well become my patients as I am one of the best in my specialty. Expensive Thai Hospitals ? I believe you mean private hospitals like Bumrungrad, Bangkok Hospital etc. Most probably would spend a lot of time there if I could get a work permit. Although my wife is a foreigner-by choice-I have some connections who can give advice but wanted some more oppinions in case someone had some extra legal knowledge. My ex-Thai wife helped me very little in the past and she was rather a burden than a bridge to the local society.
I did not said I have much money, I said I have enough to start this task.(By the way what is much money ?) ... "I seem I believe I have" ???. And last, I believe I was clear I am not interested in a retirement visa and " a nice holiday in Thailand" , so thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks.
OK, then I suggest you find another western Dr that has done what you want to do and ask him/ her for advice. I doubt the average TV poster would have a clue.
IMO it is a bad idea, and you will probably lose your money, but what do I know, as only been coming to and living in Thailand for over 40 years- not long enough to know much about Thailand.
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I generally enjoy and respect your thoughtful posts, villagefarang, but in this case I think you are being overly judgemental and behind the times.
In the past, Thai law pretty much reflected your thinking. It reasoned that because foreigners could not legally own land in Thailand, in the event that their illegally obtained land rights were violated, the law could provide no remedy to protect an illegal interest in property. In the 1990's, however, Thailand's Supreme Court changed its thinking on this matter. Under current Thai land law if a person is found to have obtained an illegal interest in land, the Department of Land can step in and force the foreigner to sell the illegally owned land. The court thus reasoned that because an administrative mechanism for forcing the sale of illegally owned land existed, land ownership rights, even those obtained in violation of Thai land law, could still be protected under civil law. People, of course, have the right not to sympathize with Ian, but at least recognize and acknowledge - as the Thai Supreme Court has done - that two wrongs don't make a right, and land law shouldn't be used as a justification for ripping people off.
It should also be pointed out that instances of foreigners illegally obtaining interests in land are likely far more prevelant than many realize. For example, under Thai land law, if a foreign national marries a Thai national, any funds used to purchase land should come exclusively from the Thai national. The main reason for this is that in the event of divorce, the law does not want a foreign national to be able to assert an ownership interest in the land. The law further stipulates that when a Thai national and a foreign born national seek to purchase land, the couple should sign an affidavit which states none of the money used to purchase the land came from the foreign national. If a Thai/foreign national couple purchases land with assets which belong to the foreign national, this is in clear violation of Thai land law. Furthermore, anyone stating that the money to purchase the land did not come from the foreign national when in reality it did, is guilty of making false statements to a public official, which is punishable by fines and incarceration. My point is that the prevelance of foreigners circumventing or violating land law goes far beyond people just setting up dummy corporations, may extend right to one's own front door, and it may be wise to conduct a compliance review of one's own situation before passing judgement on others.
I also don't think that speculation about how this man's wife may or may not have 'felt' is appropriate. The motives for the wife's accumulation of debt are unknown and could have been incurred out of sheer avarice, gambling debts, or even been incurred prior to the marriage, hidden from the spouse for 8 years, all the while accumulating interest at loanshark rates. I'm just saying that not everyone who has been taken advantage of in Thailand is naive, a control freak, or a bloomin' idiot, and knowing you've been here for many years, I'm genuinely surprised you are as reluctant as you seem to be to acknowledge this.
Your post is long and I am somewhat confused by it, but I believe that you are in agreement with those of us that say "thinking of buying land in Thailand- JUST DON'T".
Here's the Cliff Notes version of what I wrote:
Thailand's Supreme Court has interpreted the law to allow foreigners to protect illegally obtained property rights. Those saying that 'anyone who violates Thailand's land laws deserves what they get,' are out of step with Thailand's Supreme Court.
Violation of land law is probably more prevalent than many realize and extends beyond people setting up dummy corporations. Before passing judgement on the OP, you may want to check first if you are fully compliant with the law.
Speculating about the health of the OP's prior marriage is unfair because all of the facts are not known. Blaming the victim by speculating that he may have driven his wife to commit fraud is also unfair.
I would not advocate violating Thailand's land laws. It is rife with peril, and in many cases registering land in another entity's or person's name creates a moral hazard. If you choose to take that risk, you need to fully understand the risks and potential consequences involved.
I admire the OP's efforts to seek justice and recover his assets. By alerting others to these dangers, as well as hopefully discouraging others from perpetrating similar criminal acts, the OP is helping the expat community and deserves to be supported by us.
Surely, it's only if the foreigner does not know that he is buying the property illegally? If you enter into an illegal contract knowingly, it is unenforceable.
Entering into an illegal contract knowingly must surely be a criminal act.
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I don't get it why so many here are blaming Ian and his choice of wife. The whole story here is not really about the wife, who apparently ended up in jail with no money. The story is about the legal system here and groups of people that manage to control it in their own way. The wife would not have been able to pull this off entirely on her own. If she had this plan already when they married or not is irrelevant.
B/c you're asking for trouble when you marry a girl half your age, in Thailand or anywhere else in the world. Things like this are less likely to happen when the ages are closer, the backgrounds are similar, and there's a legit connection between the two people.
Rubbish. My western ex is the same age as myself, and we had similar backgrounds, yet she became the using b***h from hell and took me for as much as she could get.
And, why would I want to marry an old woman that looks like my granny did before she died? I wasn't after my wife's mind when I asked her to marry me.
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Why a young wife would forsake everything she build in this marriage for the money? There must be something fishy going on behind this so called fraud. The title of "Defrauded by his Thai wife" is not accurate and unfounded.
No Mary it is accurate and well founded. You obviously don't know how the criminal fraternity which is prevalent in Phuket works. I am at court today. Just met a German man who told me the prosecutor here is corrupt - that is at least 5 people who have knowledge who have said that though I am not yet involved with the prosecutor. I met someone works for the foreign consulate also who said there are dozens and dozens of French people she has met over the last four years who have been similarly scammed.
The whole scale of scamming foreigners is just totally hidden with good reason yet people try to find some way to excuse it. Why? It exists through the police, the prosecutor and the courts which means the entire justice system. And as a foreigner you are not only at a disadvantage through not understand the copious amounts of paperwork that is cost prohibitive to translate but the lawyers hide papers from you and collude with the other side. Yet no one seems to be interested that this is all going on - just accept Thai culture and embrace it I am told.
I want to care for my kids, not cheat anyone nor live my life telling lies. I don't want a life of sexual outlets who pass through a daily revolving door and a life that is totally shallow so excuse me for not embracing all Thai culture has to offer.
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While you have had a bad deal, you lived in Phuket, which is well known for many years to be like that. Did you never think to take precautions?
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Stop playing victim. You knew going in the inconsistentcies in legal recourse should things go wrong. Well they went wrong and you are living what you already knew.
The thing is most non nationals are now aware of the lack of law, justice, logic indeed blatant racism in the judicial system in Phuket. 10 years ago it was not apparent because people like Ian did not come out and bare their souls to be ridiculed when they should be applauded and supported. I don't think it was easy for him to go public but he hopefully will have prevented others from falling into the same trap. How many of those mightier than thou negative Thaivisa keyboard warriors have bank accounts or cars in Thailand because you can just as easily loose your car and the money in your bank account just like like Ian and have no idea until it is too late. What do you see at the start and finish of the Thaivisa newsletter every day? Houses for sale. How are Phuket newspapers mostly funded? Property advertising. The purchasing of property in Phuket is often promoted by the Governor and his administration and supported by the legal profession. The foreign currency used to purchase property in Thailand is converted to Thai Baht Thailand through the Bank of Thailand with the detail that the fund transfer is for the purchase of property. So is the legal profession and Bank of Thailand complicit in the fraud? If the purchase of property is illegal then the Bank of Thailand, legal profession and courts should make a clear statement that it is. Quite a few people I know are, as a result of this and other recent publicity cutting and running from Phuket. I think everybody should get behind Ian and support him and not slaughter the messenger. Shocking things have been said here about Ian with malice and little forethought. Cheap shots. He is already in a dark place and we should be supporting him. The man is clearly not a fool and did not put all his eggs in the one basket as many suggested because he has been fighting the corruption in Phuket and existing here for 5 years. Thaivisa would be all the better for each and every one of us if we supported each other.
If you own a car or let your wife have access to your bank account you are asking for trouble, IMO. I don't own a car, or anything other than home appliances for that matter.
My wife has no access to my bank account books or the numbers, so how could she rip me off with them?
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I am not trying to find a way around passing the exams, I can pass the exams and get a licence in a few months.From what I understand I need an employment offer to get a work permit.
But what I actually had in mind was to open a clinic and be self-employed.
Who would be your target group of patients?
I suppose you'd have to employ 4 Thais, or whatever the number is now to start a company.
Where would you locate, Pattaya or Chiang Mai?
Do you have lots of money for advertising etc?
1. expats, tourists. Locals wellcome
2.yes, I believe so.
3.Pattaya or Bangkok
4. Enough money, not unlimited funds,otherwise I would build my own hospital
How could you treat Thais when you say you only have basic Thai? Your wife is also foreign so you have no local connections.
Poor Thais already have clinics they go to, and I doubt you'd make anything on what they charge. Rich Thais go to expensive Thai hospitals.
I doubt you'd find a niche in Bkk, but Pattaya, Hua Hin, Phuket or Chiang Mai, if you were in the right area you might.
If you have as much money as you seem to believe you have, you can get a retirement extension on an O visa, and have a nice holiday in Thailand for as long as you want.
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I am not trying to find a way around passing the exams, I can pass the exams and get a licence in a few months.From what I understand I need an employment offer to get a work permit.
But what I actually had in mind was to open a clinic and be self-employed.
Who would be your target group of patients?
I suppose you'd have to employ 4 Thais, or whatever the number is now to start a company.
Where would you locate, Pattaya, Phuket, Hua Hin or Chiang Mai?
Do you have lots of money for advertising etc?
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You should try the private hospitals that specialise in tourist medicine, like Bumrungrad.
I'm sure that you are aware you'd have to have excellent, not basic, Thai language skills to work with Thai patients.
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It is not just the refugees arriving now, but the rest of their families that will have a right to follow them.
I can understand allowing children to join their parents, but why should old people be allowed to come just because their children are in the west, unless of course they too are genuine refugees.
When I was in the UK, it appeared that old people that never paid a penny tax to Britain were allowed to immigrate to be with their children and get all the freebies like NHS etc.
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I guess so, unless King Hussein ends the apartheid policies applied to Palestinians resident in Jordan.
Dream on.
There already is a Palestinian state, it's called Jordan.Yeah I don't see an actual Palestinian state happening. Which begs the question if that goal fades as realistic what can be done to secure both the future of Israel and the Palestinian Arabs living in Gaza and WB. I'm stumped.Middle East Forum is not really an objective media source.
Daniel Pipes is known for his well sponsored Zionist islamophobia...
Quote from link :
"Out of the 11 donors profiled in the report, for example, eight of them have in recent years given large sums to Daniel Pipes, president and founder of Middle East Forum (MEF) - just one of an abundance of US-based bastions of Islamophobia - who dutifully performs his own anti-Muslim routine while also funneling money to other like-minded bastions."
"And this is but a small sampling of the anti-Palestinian, anti-Muslim money in circulation; the list goes on."
It's a bit rich you using Al-Jazeera, the Muslim brotherhoods unofficial press arm as a source to somehow disprove a source you disagree with. Facts however won't go away and they prove Jordan is explicitly engaging in apartheid policies against their Palestinian majority. Where are the leftist activists now? A fair voting system in Jordan would render it de-facto a Palestinian state. A prospect which must terrify some of our esteemed members even more than it does King Hussein.
The difference between Jordan and Israel is that Jordan doesn't profess to be a beacon of modernity and democracy in a sea of Muslim theocracies, and we don't really expect them to behave like a modern western country. It would be nice if they did, but that would be unrealistic. If Israel wants to behave like an apartheid state and occupy other countries, then they can't profess to be better than those countries around them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like Ian Rance's Thai assets/business interests/property were not legitimately 'his' in the first place.
Am I wrong?
As for people slating Thai women on here: you're stereotyping and it's completely inaccurate.
There are lots of happily married farang/Thai couples in this country. Once again, if you're a single man and want a Thai girlfriend, then make sure she satisfies the following criteria:
1. She has a university education
2. She has her own income
3. She's around about the same age as you
4. She speaks English at an advanced/near fluency level
If your Thai girlfriend matches the above four criteria, then you'll find that she'll be the best companion that you could ever wish for.
Also, men, please be understanding towards Thai culture. Thailand has never been colonized, and most Thai people think in a way that is different to anglocized/Western culture. Be patient, be understanding and embrace Thai culture.
You are a guest in this country. Stop trying to change everything. Embrace the reality and learn to respect Thai culture.
It looks like I am headed to the poorhouse for sure. My wife didn’t have a university education when we married but she is in her final semester here at Chiang Rai University if that counts.
I have enough money for both of us so I value her company more than any amount of money she could obtain from employment.I would have nothing in common with a sixty year old woman but I have a lot in common with my forty year old wife. When she is sixty and I am eighty I may make an exception to my comment about sixty year old women.She didn’t speak English when we met but I did speak Thai if that counts. Her university major is English so now we both speak each others language with proficiency.In my opinion, making checklists is a waste of time because each person and couple is different. On paper my wife and I shouldn’t have worked but 18 years on we have done things our way and have a really wonderful loving relationship. That is another thing, no one ever talks about love. Women are always referred to as a commodity, like a used car, a piece of meat or a depository for men’s sexual release.As Prince Charles famously said, "whatever love is". I don't think many people "love" each other, in the true sense of the word. I think most confuse "love" with lust, and lust never lasts. If they are lucky, they meet someone they like, and stay together as friends with benefits.
When women rent out their vaginas to any bloke with a few thousand baht they should expect to be treated like a commodity.
I don't know about you ( perhaps you like to visit temples ), but when I came to Thailand twice a year on holiday, it wasn't to play with the orphans and help old ladies across the street, and I wasn't intending to go home as a married man either.
I did eventually get married and I don't visit bars any more, except with her, or if she's not there, she certainly knows I am and that I'm not renting anyone's vagina.
That's something I like about my wife, I can look at another woman or go to Pattaya alone without her threatening to divorce me, like my western ex would have.
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Who in the world cares about how the Arab world treats "Palestinian" Arabs? Where's the sport in that? No Jews to demonize.
The utter hypocrisy and obvious real goals (ending Israel) of the Israel demonization agenda never fails to be TOTALLY PREDICTABLE.
You should ask yourself why so many of us are against Israeli ( NOT against Jewish people per se ) policies.
I certainly have no axe to grind for Arabs. I worked in Saudi and don't support them because of my experiences there.
It's just that the way Israel treats Palestinians is so despicable that I can't accept it without at least making my feelings known.
Had you been born a Palestinian would you think it's right to be treated that way? I certainly wouldn't, any more than I accepted the way England treated the Irish in the past. If the English still were oppressing the Irish, and there was a thread about it on TV I'd be saying the same sort of things about them as I say on this thread about Israeli policies.
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Sorry to all you guys for not having the finances that you do, but my compensation is less than $900 a month and I have paid for every single expense for both of us since I met her, and I have not complained about that. But now my savings is completely gone and all I have is the army disability compensation. So now it is strictly about living within my means, and I still pay for absolutely everything.
I would only question your decision making for deciding to get married with such a small income. Alone you can live nicely but with a wife, yeah not so much. I know, I know.....$$$$don't matter when they love you. let us know how that works out for you.
If you can't afford a decently large get to gether say 50,000 baht should cover it, then I would say wait till you can afford it.
If she cooks and her friends bring some food, wouldn't be much at all.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like Ian Rance's Thai assets/business interests/property were not legitimately 'his' in the first place.
Am I wrong?
As for people slating Thai women on here: you're stereotyping and it's completely inaccurate.
There are lots of happily married farang/Thai couples in this country. Once again, if you're a single man and want a Thai girlfriend, then make sure she satisfies the following criteria:
1. She has a university education
2. She has her own income
3. She's around about the same age as you
4. She speaks English at an advanced/near fluency level
If your Thai girlfriend matches the above four criteria, then you'll find that she'll be the best companion that you could ever wish for.
Also, men, please be understanding towards Thai culture. Thailand has never been colonized, and most Thai people think in a way that is different to anglocized/Western culture. Be patient, be understanding and embrace Thai culture.
You are a guest in this country. Stop trying to change everything. Embrace the reality and learn to respect Thai culture.
What is this obsession with a university education? In a country where I believe you have to have a uni degree to work in a 7 11 they are no indicator of anything except that you were there for a few years. NZ had a very wealthy man that refused to employ uni graduates because he said they were useless in real life.
While they are certainly necessary for Drs and architects etc, a lot of degrees are rubbish- hip hop anyone?
Is 2 out of 4 OK?
Embrace Thai culture.
So I should accept corruption, accept shoddy workmanship and lazy shop staff, believe in Hindu gods, give the family lots of money for no good reason except I married one of them, drive very badly and treat those less fortunate poorly because they must have been wicked in a previous life.
Erm, I don't think so.
You are a guest in this country.
Since when did guests have to pay to stay somewhere?
Stop trying to change everything. Embrace the reality
Well you did say something I can agree with.
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Thank Buddha for the Labor Party
You mean those morons that bankrupted the country, allowed people to die on leaky boats trying to get to Australia, put that red headed liar in charge, and put Rudd back in charge because they have no principles other than being elected.
As for Abbott, he got rid of the ABC international because it was a PC piece of garbage- only had 2 shows worth watching; Q & A and Insiders
Higher education should be deregulated. Government interference stuffs up education.
Abbott stopped the boats- good one Tony.
When was Australia Bankrupt?
I don't see how previous Labor Government issues have anything to do with Tony Abbott being replaced as Prime Minister.
Back flips on statements made by Tony Abbott prior to being elected certainly did play a part in him being thrown out and voter backlash. No cuts to ABC / SBS, No cuts to education, No new taxes. He basically broke all those commitments.
The Abbott Government's attempt to deregulate higher education was soundly rejected by the Australian Electorate and certainly contributed to him being replaced.
The 'stopping the boats' issue was not an over all winner in the Electorate. What the Abbott Government won on stopping the boats was swamped by concerns legal refugees were being pushed back out to sea, left stranded on the sea starving and thirsty, put on rafts and pushed back to sea, incursions into other Nations sovereign waters, reports of torture, lack of transparency 'we do not comment on 'on water' operations', journalist Visas going from $200 to $8000 to visit Manis / Nauru detention camps, depriving people of their liberty without charge, etc. spying on Government officials etc etc etc. This also contributed to Abbott's Party Leadership downfall so maybe 'not so, good one, Tony'/
Abbott's far Right Wing agenda was simply not playing out or supported within the Electorate.
Living on borrowed money = being broke.
I was referring to your statement thanking Buddha for Labour, not that it had anything to do with Abbott.
BTW, Buddha was a man, not God, and can't influence anything now- he's long dead.
While I don't disagree with what you say about the boats, the effect was to stop them, or near as. If they change the policy, expect lots more people drowning at sea. Can't have it both ways, unless the Oz government starts picking them up in Indo and transporting them to Oz free of charge.
Back flips on statements made by Tony Abbott prior to being elected
Rule number one- all politicians lie, and never believe anything they say in an election campaign.
Remember the red head and "no carbon tax"?
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There already is a Palestinian state, it's called Jordan.Yeah I don't see an actual Palestinian state happening. Which begs the question if that goal fades as realistic what can be done to secure both the future of Israel and the Palestinian Arabs living in Gaza and WB. I'm stumped.
Dream on. When the British ruled Palestine it was Transjordan, and recognised as a separate entity from what is now the area known as Israel and the west bank.
Like it or not, the only legal boundary of Israel is that given to them in 1948. They may occupy the west bank, but they will always be occupiers and not owners.
The UN/ most of the world will certainly not ratify any attempt by Israel to include the west bank as part of Israel. The only way they will stay there is by military force, and how many centuries do they want to be doing that for?
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Yeah I don't see an actual Palestinian state happening. Which begs the question if that goal fades as realistic what can be done to secure both the future of Israel and the Palestinian Arabs living in Gaza and WB. I'm stumped.
If Jews kept the notion of return to Israel alive for 2,000 years, why would the Palestinians not? The Israelis may one day drive them out ( or something else ), but they'd be looking over their shoulder for them returning and doing unto them. Does the Bible not say "as you sow, so shall you reap"?
Much better to be friends now, than enemies forever.
Europeans shut borders, block bridges, to halt migrant surge
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The idea that parents or grandparents of resettled refugees/ immigrants should be allowed to settle with their children in the UK is just wrong. They end up getting free NHS treatment regardless of any "rules". We operated on large numbers of Asian ( usually Indian ) old people that had obviously never lived in the UK, and had obviously come to live with their children.
If that has changed, then that's good.
If they are genuine refugees, then they should be supported in camps like all the other thousands of refugees that have no right to settle in the UK or Euro.