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44 minutes ago, meechai said:Has UK never heard the term "False Flag"?
I, like many other Britons, regard the current government as an appalling shambles, riven with various personality claques and seemingly so incompetent that they are unable to manage the simplest task vaguely satisfactorily.
That view is only tempered by the awful realisation that the only alternative would probably be as bad if not worse.
However, despite setting the standard for cynical venal incompetence, I simply do not believe they would launch a persistent nerve agent attack on their own people to distract attention from their troubles.
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42 minutes ago, pieeyed said:I mean they spot the wreck with a helicopter and then send in a rescue team on foot? Why not drop a rescue team by helicopter and retrieve the dead/injured via helicopter? The poor survivor with burns to 60% of his body must have been in agony.
Mountainous jungle terrain - no Helicopter Landing Site for many kilometres - probably the nearest HLS was at the village the rescue team at out from.
Very probably no winch equipped helicopters available (VIP comfy seats probably regarded as more important fit out), and despite the no doubt universal para wings and airborne flashes amongst the troops available, actually abseiling/rappelling through jungle is probably not a skill they have.
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3 hours ago, holy cow cm said:Sounds negative, but the words THAI Navy and Seal I have a continuos hard time biting down on. Just leaves me thinking it is all just a game name making notoriety. Should be using another label, like barracuda or something. I just hope they are 1/2 as good as the moniker suggests and no preventable foul ups getting the kids out.
They are almost certainly the best that Thailand has. They are certainly doing the very best that they can. One has died in the operation already. Remember that cave diving, and rescue techniques in flooded caves will not be amongst the skills that they train in and practice. I should imagine that they are picking the brains of the few experts there (few because there are precious few on the planet)!
I too am cynical about the quality of much of the Thai military. These men however deserve praise and respect. After all, you would have to anaethatise me (and many others here) to get me down there
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3 hours ago, tumama said:
"The studies focus on enabling the students to communicate rather than on the grammar, the teacher said."
That's how all languages ought to be taught. Learning grammar is mostly counter-productive. You can tell when people learn by grammar because they speak really slow and with a heavy accent.
"Today go Big C"
"Yesterday go Big C"
"Tomorrow go Big C"
When you teach them to say:
"Today I am going to Big C."
"Yesterday I went to Big C."
"Tomorrow I will go to Big C."
Then you are teaching them grammar - simple present continuous, simple past and simple future tenses, in the first person singular.
It's not the teaching of grammar which is the problem, it is how you teach that grammar. Most of us are familiar with the phenomenon of the M6 (18 year old) class, who have been learning English for 12 years, and can recite (in Thai) the rules of the most arcane grammatical constructions, but when asked how long the bus journey to Chiang Mai takes, will gaze at you blankly as if you have just beamed down from the planet Zarg!
That is the problem - how it is taught!
Maybe this young man is fortunate to have been taught well.
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9 hours ago, baboon said:
usual sanctimonious flapdoodle from the Bangkok elite who have no interest in practising what they preach,
16 words which sum up so many orders, instructions and urgings from those in power.
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7 hours ago, happy chappie said:
How about the head line....thank god for these foreigners because we would of never found them.i doubt very much if the Thai navy seals have a clue about cave diving.
Well I doubt if their is a reservoir of knowledge and expertise in rescues from flooded cave systems anywhere except for those few experts who came to help.
SEALs is an acronym for sea, air and land, not sea land and underground. SLUGs would carry certain image problems - I doubt whether a film featuring Demi Moore doing press-ups in the mud, her chest adorned with a tee shirt announcing that she was a slug, would be of much interest outside of "fringe circles"!
The Thai Navy have had a crash course, and done very well.
6 hours ago, happy chappie said:Do you think any of the Thai seals have yet managed to get as far to reach the boys,I doubt it as they would be just another problem.one thing I do know is they done the right thing by getting the right people in for the job.
News video this morning shows a Thai Navy diver looking after the trapped boys.
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6 hours ago, eldragon said:
You’re right. Plus, they don’t even jail their own teachers for doing this stuff. Why would they go after foreigners.
Very sad though. Ask around and you’ll find many of the sex workers in Thailand admit they started working at bars as young as 14. What’s being done about that?
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Thank you, mind you I do know of one teacher up here in Chiang Rai who was convicted and jailed for this.
Whilst the will is often there, both amongst a variety of NGOs, local and international, and decent elements within the police the judicial system is so full of "escape clauses" based on wealth and saving face that it is very often frustrated.
When there is a successful prosecution and conviction, the reluctance to "wash dirty linen in public' means it gets little publicity, which in turn reduces any deterrent effect.
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3 minutes ago, pornprong said:
How is it you know so little about so much?
I think we can confidently diagnose you with Thaksinitis.
http://thailandjumpedtheshark.blogspot.com/2008/08/george-bushs-iran-contra-and-thaksins.html
Maybe in the running for a "Calvin Klein award"?
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31 minutes ago, ravip said:
Oh really? You've been in a cave? How did you miss the LJ's?
Waiting with the pram to pickup my toys.
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Your posts really don't make much sense - but rather give the impression that you are trying to pick a fight. I'm not interested, so goodbye. Try with someone else.
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3 hours ago, ravip said:
On 7/3/2018 at 9:03 AM, JAG said:
To avoid the inevitable clamour on TVF for that soldier to get a haircut?
Whilst female soldiers are commonly found in the west (LJs - lumpy jumpers as they were known) they are I suspect very much more of a novelty here.
Have you ever been to Thailand, other than seeing it on an atlas?
Just go to the Naresuan camp (if you can enter there-in) and count the LJ's there, you have mentioned.
(I am NOT an expert on Thiland as many here are, so this is the only example I can quote, which I think is suffice for your comment)
I've lived here for five years actually.
Now pick your toys up and put them back in the pram!
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41 minutes ago, Confuscious said:"Foreign volunteers make crucial contribution towards mission"
In the meantime:
- 60+ Thais will die today on the roads.
Most of them because Thais and wearing helmets doesn't go well together.- 25+ Thais will die today in Thai domestic disputes because Somchai has a little penis syndrome and is constantly fuelled with alcohol and drugs.
CheersNone of which is a reason why these boys should have been left to die, not is it in any way a valid reflection on the co-operation determination or bravery shown in the rescue operation.
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2 minutes ago, bluesofa said:
I didn't know it was a disinfectant, I thought it was a washing up liquid?
No that is "Fairy".
Someone once told me that they had fairies at the bottom of their garden. I thought that was a strange place to keep your washing up liquid, and anyway we've got dustbins at the bottom of ours...
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Johnnie Walker Black to be locked away in the Officers Mess for three months then?
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4 minutes ago, flyingtlger said:
The guy looks EVIL.....
He is.
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13 hours ago, Jupitero said:Not jailed for crimes in Thailand though. Police too busy?
He "bragged" about his exploits in Thailand. Without dates, times, locations and victims there is no evidence, without evidence no case. Such bragging is loathsome, it makes me, and many others here I am sure, want to kinetically rearrange his face, repeatedly. But it is not prosecutable.
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1 hour ago, thenoilif said:
In Thailand, public schools don't have swimming pools. Some international schools have them. In a provincial area like Chiang Rai, the only place with a swimming pool are a handful of resorts and a couple of new condos. There are waterfalls and rivers but they are
Whilst I rather agree with what you say, could I pedantically point out that Chiang Rai has at least 9 ( that I am aware of) pools which are open to the public, at least one of which is free ( the one in the sports centre attached to "Obadour" School).
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It may be of interest to some: the Roman Catholic Church has created a new diocese based on Chiang Rai and including a couple of neighbouring provinces. The new Bishop, to be consecrated on Saturday, is called Joseph. The existing Church of the Nativity of Our Lady, at the entrance to Santi Vithaya School, becomes a very small ( bijou?) Cathedral.
At the risk of being accused of name dropping, the new Bishop seems a very pleasant chap, and speaks good English.
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No doubt the constabulary will be after their share.
Of the money or...
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31 minutes ago, SpokaneAl said:
Why is it necessary to identify the military member as a female?
To avoid the inevitable clamour on TVF for that soldier to get a haircut?
Whilst female soldiers are commonly found in the west (LJs - lumpy jumpers as they were known) they are I suspect very much more of a novelty here.
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Chaps, it was a team effort. Everyone deserves congratulations and praise, from the Englishman who popped out of the water and said " Hello, how many of you are there?" ( what wonderful English "sang froid" ) to the conscript squaddy carrying oxygen bottles up a slippery track in the pissing rain. Each one of them! Even the bloke blowing his whistle in the carpark!
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10 minutes ago, starky said:
Amazing effort, my wife was literally in tears. I found out before her... Thanks TVF! But can I take it from this video then that the Brits got there before the SEALS? End of the day makes zero difference just thought it strange the video was in English.
Let's just say that the divers who found them were English, working as part of a Thai Navy led team, with participants from umpteen countries.
It is wonderful news, thank God.
Bl**dy backpackers, get everywhere! I expect that they got their diving certificates on the Koh Sahn Road!
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Stand by now for a sustained campaign to establish the "fact" that he has the support of the people (remember the "great movement"); this will make an actual election irrelevant - just a couple of mass meetings to install the government by acclamation.
"Hands up who wants Prayut as PM! The motion has been unanimously carried".
Well it worked for British Leyland, amongst others. Sort of...
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8 minutes ago, coulson said:113 teams nationwide come up with 22 snags.
It's as if they don't really want to kick them out after all.
Well, if they are all as effective as that decidedly chubby lean mean steely eyed dealer of death, inexplicably clad in desert combat kit to raid a building site...
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1 minute ago, candide said:The UK has been quite influent on some matters. For example, Britain was a keen supporter and indeed a “driver” of accession of Central and Eastern European countries into the EU from early on (starting with M. Thatcher). It has also been proactive in allowing freedom of movement for workers from these countries ?
Well the latter point (freedom of movement for workers from Eastern and Central European countries) really illustrates the whole problem with the UK's approach to the EU in recent years at least. The Governments thought it was a jolly good idea. The people, when finally (reluctantly, almost accidentally) given a say on the matter, disagreed.
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Trump says Kim 'sees different future' for North Korea
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The only future Kim sees for North Korea is one with him firmly in charge.
Trump, like the fool he is, has made that more certain.
I hope he feels that it is worth a slack handful of his bombastic tweets 'cos that is all the USA and the rest of the world got out of the Singapore meeting.