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43 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:He also said he could not tell at this stage how long the EC’s investigation of the matter would take.
It will "lie on file" until the timing is right...
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The trouble is that May is when the PDRC trial is due to start - far too contentious and emotive an affair to coincide with an election, so...
Then there is the whole business of the Chair of ASEAN next year - can't risk disrupting that with a change of government halfway through, so...
There is of course the real possibility of a sad event in the next year or so, possibly two. If either were to happen everything would have to be put on hold for at least a year. You can't possibly hold an election an election when the nation is plunged into mourning again, so...
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That must have been jolly meeting. Listening to Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krue-ngam briefing on the democratic process must have been like sitting through a lecture by Vlad The Impaler on open heart surgery!
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Well, strap me vitals, as they said in all the old pirate movies (no, I don't have a clue what it means either), whoever would have thought it! A delay to the election! Whatever next?
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9 minutes ago, Cadbury said:
As for strong ties with neighbours I would suggest the PM probably has a good bond with Hun Sen. They seem to have a lot in common. I am not permitted to say what that might be.
I wouldn't say the same for Laos, or Vietnam. I would describe their relationship with Thailand's leadership as one of muted tolerance for mutual benefit. Myanmar and Thailand outwardly seem friends but I think that any underlying differences might be papered over in favour of other considerations.
Thailand is next in line for the Chairmanship of ASEAN. Knowing how the PM adores chairmanships and being the boss of everything I'm sure he can't wait to get his backside into the big seat.
Yes, but what if, having settled in the big chair in January, as scheduled, he comes spectacularly unstuck in the General Election which he has promised for February? I mean, just as he is getting comfortable as it were, he would have to step down!
I suppose he could delay the election for a year or so, but that would make a nonsense of the roadmap, and anyway he has promised hasn't he...
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Presumably this bail money fund is "government money"?
Therefore the bail is paid from one government department ( bail fund) to another (, the courts). So if the bail is forfeit, the government gets to (keep) its own money. If the bond is released when the accused stands trial the same applies.
Mind you I entirely agree with SB above when it comes to keeping poor people out of the remand system.
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Careful chaps, you don't want to initiate this process until shortly before an election - that way the chance of a "reincarnation" being effective is reduced.
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23 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:
The good thing is that this generation which was involved in that stupid war will diminished and vanished by nature. And also the Brexit is not forever. There are always incompetent politicians as Trump or May e.g. The next generation will get the chance to join the EU again because they know after years of poverty what it means to be a member of a strong community! Better together than alone.
If the EU still exists in a generations time...
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1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:
Now, that is past almost 70 years. You paid the fee for being a free country or do you think you would be better off with a German Chancellor ruling Britain? (though you got a lot of German Royals on the throne already!) It's a shame that UK is the only country showing all these bullshit war movies, day by day. You can't accept that you lost all your colonies and almost the war? You can't accept that the time you might have been number one in Europe (in your eyes) is gone for ever?
If I do hope that you are not suggesting that the UK, and for that matter the rest of Europe, would have been better off if the ghastly regime which subjegated Europe, gave us the horrors of the Holocaust and launched a war of annihilation against the Soviet Union, had prevailed?
If so then you should be howled down at every opportunity. Yes it is seventy years ago. That is well within living memory.
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8 hours ago, pegman said:U.K. will be a basket case in 5 years.
A bit like Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain - stalwarts of the drive for European Unity - as long as someone else pays?
The EU will be a basket case in 5 years - it's only a question of when the first of this four goes bust - then domino time...
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2 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:
Teaching in Thailand below International school level where you get highly paid and full respect is akin to picking grapes in the outback of Australia.
It's usually a job for the Uni gap year student, traveller, relationship with a Thai hopefuls and the retired expats. That's why the crackdowns on people without WP's never happens.
Also the average school salary for foreign teachers is low. Pay peanuts and you get a monkey.
The only reason the Thai's might crackdown on teachers working without proper paperwork is:-
1) To gain face and promotion.
2) To show they are doing something.
3) Xenophobia rises and jealousy reigns
4) To mirror similar policies in neighbouring countries.
5) A powerful elite player with a grievence.
So all in all, nothing changes really. They still need backpackers to teach as they need qualified public school teachers in International schools.
Tighten the rules to much and whose gunner pick the grapes?Let alone teach people that "gonna" is the colloquial form of "going to", whereas "gunner" is a term to describe a soldier who fires a crew served weapon...
I learned that at the Koh Sahn Road University - the lecture notes are in my backpack somewhere.
When I do my Master's I will learn about the difference between "to", "too" and "two".
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2 hours ago, kwilco said:
After Brexit, Britains will find this far more difficult.
Why?
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12 minutes ago, kwilco said:
It's pretty clear that it's wwork under Thai law.
You are breaking 2 main laws, firstly visa and secondly you aren't paying tax and are living in the kingdom.
Not too difficult to enforce....especially if someone doesn't like you.
Now there is an interesting thought!
If there is any of "dobbing in", I wonder if it would be done by Thais, or other "Falangs"?
Hmm...
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Any bronze plaques by chance?
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4 minutes ago, BestB said:
I am not here to convince you either way, you can continue living with your blinkers on or you can listen to others, Entirely your choice.
I listen to a great many people, both on here and elsewhere. I do however tend not to bother too much with those who talk nonsense...
In particular I don't bother with those who are unable to engage in a relatively civil discussion without bellowing abuse, (blinkers) or claiming that because they disagree with you: "The more you post the more it becomes clear you have no hands on experience or even remote knowledge of what happens in Thailand, "
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57 minutes ago, BestB said:
Who pays 8000 per month? Minimum wage has been 9900 for months already ?
now you say pittance ? For whom you?
What are you comparing ? Wages in UK, AU, CAD, US to Thai wages or what is your comparison scale ?
thai on minimum wage jobs get paid Thai minimum wage just as Australians or English in minimum wage jobs get paid a minimum wage and just as Thai can not afford much.
then you mention 10 hour days, again compare productivity here and back where you from before commenting on the hours .
thaj in minimum jobs do as minimum as possible , lack any skills , most certainly can not multi task hence why have 3-4 staff working 2x2 icecream kiosk and the rest of the time spent playing on the phone or sleeping.
those who do little more than nothing and work for little longer than a few months most certainly do not earn minimum wage and also get bonuses.
my cleaners start on 10000, thouse who stay and really work earn double that. Problem is only 1 stayed , other hundreds of not thousands are gone after 1-2 months because either tired or problem home or go home or bad boss not let play on phone and sleep half a day .
so do not be in such a rush to make conclusions based on nothing but rumours and sad bar girl stories.
jusy for your information
dental assistant start 20 000
factiry worker with 12 years in the factory is on 34000
mechanic at toyota on 28000 plus yearly bonus 80 000 for new year and another 50000 for Thai new year .
Rumours and bar girl stories. As soon as I see that as a justification for repudiating a point I know that the poster is clutching at straws.
I live in Chiang Rai, and have done for several years. We don't really have many "bar girls up here"
To earn B9900 up here, on the minimum wage, one would have to work a 31 day month.
The wages which you quote certainly are nowhere, absolutely nowhere, like the ones paid up here, and I suspect are only received by a small number of exceptionally fortunate people in and around Bangkok. Here, for example, a newly qualified teacher is on around B12000, rising to B18000 after 10 years or so. A qualified experienced hospital lab technician is on B16000 (top of the pay scale). The sort of bonuses you describe simply do not exist.
I am not comparing with wages in first world countries, but looking at Thai wages, compared to even the most frugal of lifestyles here, they are miserable.
As for your personal employees, I shan't comment, other than to wonder, given the intensity of you reaction, both in general terms and with - shall we say more personal suggestions ( listening to bar girls) - quite what those who left meant by regarding you as a "bad boss"?
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12 hours ago, JAG said:Most Thais are so miserably paid, by one of the most exploitative employment regimes imaginable in a nation which claims to be developed, that any sort of savings are simply unattainable.
11 hours ago, BestB said:I guess that depends on who is doing the judging and comparison
I would say that no matter how you judge it B8000 a month for a 10 hour day, 6 days a week is pretty miserable and pretty exploitative.
As for exploitation, that is fueled and enabled by setting the minimum wage as a daily rather than hourly rate. Hence the long days. If it was say B40 an hour then an 8 hour day would bring in B320, still a pittance, but at present what many get for a (10 hour plus) day.
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Just an idle muse really, (and I do like my idle muses), but if he wore it wrapped around his neck, with the ends across his chest, under his body warmer, then 1) no one would see or criticize the logo, 2) the ends wouldn't dangle in the soup!
As I said just an idle muse...
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3 hours ago, bert bloggs said:project fear ,alive and well
Airbus just doing what they have been told.
BMW have done the same I see - but in their case, I rather expect that they are rather keen to move production of the "mini" elsewhere anyway - somewhere where labour costs are somewhat lower.. I really don't think that they are particularly committed to building cars in the UK. It was going to come anyway.
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Am I being particularly dense, (it has been suggested before) or do these figures not add up?
It is a bit difficult to discern through the clouds of xenophobia starting to swirl around...
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Nice scarf.
It would go well with a pair of Burberry wellies if it rains...
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9 hours ago, BestB said:Most Thais can not think that far ahead, i am sorry to say
Most Thais are so miserably paid, by one of the most exploitative employment regimes imaginable in a nation which claims to be developed, that any sort of savings are simply unattainable.
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10 hours ago, stropper said:well said i am with you, bloody had enough of whinging pommy bludgers !
10 hours ago, Briggsy said:I say, stropper, you do seem to have got in a colonial tizzy. Perhaps it is the heat. Have another VB or whatever you are drinking.
5 hours ago, oldlakey said:You could have been one of us if your ancestors had behaved themselves a little better
Obviously he has been following the cricket
7 hours ago, maxcorrigan said:Yes true old chap, but he has given himself a fine title "stropper" ie w..nk..r rather apt. don't you think?
I wonder - does he fold up the brim of his hat to accommodate the chip on his shoulder?
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15 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:
I would guess, and it's only a guess, that the Junta do not want an election unless they are sure the result will be to their liking. There are other credible opponents who don't have the severe baggage that Thaksin does. Although he remains the convenient go-to bogeyman because of the long list of outstanding cases and being a fugitive.
I agree totally that the Thai people should choose who governs them. But there must be mechanisms in place in any country to prevent criminals from controlling governments and dealing with governments / politicians that break laws. If Thaksin were ever to return he would simply re-start his plans to cement himself into the type of mock democracy his friend Hun Sen is trying to create. And like Hun Sen he would turn to China for friendship as the West started to criticize as he dismantled real democracy. And that's the root problem. None of the old dinosaurs grabbing for power are really remotely interested in democracy and all that it entails which is far more than elections. They will use it while it gives them a verdict they like. And discard it once it doesn't. If Thaksin could finance and orchestrate a coup he probably would. It's all about grabbing and holding onto power and being in control of the assets, then milking them.
Thaksin tried to muffle the media and critics with defamation suits, and some pretty unsavory intimidation when needed. The Junta have article 44 and attitude adjustments.
PTP will be as displeased as the Junta should a real political party with real reforms be elected. It would spoil the game for them.
1) Thaksin was standing for re-election at the time of the 2006 coup. He and his government had resigned and called an election in the face of significant extra parliamentary opposition and protest. That act was a significant check on power. The coup forestalled it.
2) Yingluck had called an election under similar pressure, and had also been removed from office by a court. Again, significant checks. Again the coup forestalled an election.
3) Your third point, about Thaksin "doing a Hun Sen' is really only supposition, with no concrete grounds behind it. At the risk of being accused of "but, but, but..." posting, the very same case could be made for the junta following the Burmese militaries playbook.
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EC investigating Thaksin’s call to Pheu Thai politicians
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Absolutely bl**dy brilliant!
Incidentally, why is he calling from the bar of the Shelton Mallet Royal British Legion Club?