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Perhaps putting up with the fairly loathsome business practices of the middlemen is the price to pay for giving 200, 000 or so often unemployable people the chance to earn a living?
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5 minutes ago, lucjoker said:the plastic barrier was a left over from the police check point that was unmanned............
Umh, I think the OP says it was part of the arrangements for a temporary U turn lane...
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1 hour ago, robblok said:
JAG,
Have you considered that I am only taking about the corruption of the PTP that became available not what hey have hidden (think of the tablet projects and others). Just like with the army not all corruption is discovered and prosecuted. It works two ways and so far I havent seen anything from the army coming close.
You seem to think that the PTP has not hidden its corruption.. if this is what has surfaced imagine how much has stayed hidden (road constructions ect). The same goes to the army maybe more stays hidden but still there is no proof. So you can claim all you want but you just back it up. How can you debate when you can't backup your claims. You just cant.
What if i were to state without any proof i suspect the Shins of having 1000x time corruption as the army without any proof you would laugh at me and call me crazy.. (and rightly so as I could not back it up). Now that is exactly what your doing stating something without any proof and then stating it all stayed hidden.
The only reason this corruption was so accurately proven is because it was easy to prove with the fake G2G deals.. so nothing secret about it hard facts.
Oh dear, read my post again won't you. Nowhere, absolutely nowhere, did I suggest that Tha Shinawatras hid corruption. What I did suggest that the military did...
As for"how can I debate", well that is rich, coming from someone who seizes upon one point,( in this case it seems the G2G rice deal), and then bangs on about it endlessly, ignoring or dismissing anything anyone should say on the wider subject. That is not debate- rather it is just shouting at us until, as I often do, and it seems many others do, we just get fed up to the back teeth with your dogged attempts to monopolize discussion, and give up and go and do something else.
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Fermented Issan shrimp ravioli?
Thanks but no thanks...
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18 minutes ago, robblok said:
You have absolutely NO proof about the corruption of the army or how large it is while I on the other hand have figures on Thaksin. The 33 billion is for sure the largest corruption case in the last 10-15 years (that is uncovered). If you can give me any proof of your claims, because they are based on hot air without any facts to back them up I will consider them.
1Have you considered that the "figures" on Thaksin are available precisely because they are the figures which the regime wish to be in the public domain, and which the regime has released?
Conversely, have you considered that there is no proof of the armies corruption precisely because the regime has steadfastly prevented such proof (figures) becoming available, either directly when it or its' precursors were in power, or by the open threat of a coup when an elected government was in power?
Allegations or claims of corruption within the military " are based on hot air without any facts to back them up" takes several packing cases of biscuits as possibly the most dogmatic and naive assertion ever posted on this forum!
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6 minutes ago, Thongkorn said:My son inlaw has just done his two years . Some of the things he has told me are just unbelievable. It’s no wonder guys abscond . Some have a young family . They have fought and found reasonable jobs, They get drafted into pointless service, No trade or skills are taught. so they could be of use when getting out after their two years service, And when they get out the job has gone.Some have to leave and let their spouse fend for themselves Because the army does not provide for them. the going rate is suppose to be 300 baht every day, But he only revived 5000 baht a month.how the hell is solider and his wife suppose to manage on that. Also many beatings go on by bully officers which cannot be reported. The whole draft procedure wants looking at. But I suppose as always inThailand if you have 30,000 baht you can buy your way out . Not a lot for big money people but the world to the poor.
My Stepson finished his last year. As a retired professional soldier I took a close interest in what he did, or frankly didn't do. He was lucky, his Regiment didn't go in for bullying. It was however a complete waste of time. He did virtually no coherent training, hung around camp in between guard, growing vegetables (!) and going on leave, which seemed to be for ten days every month or so. On one memorable occasion he returned to his unit after leave only to be sent home for a fortnight because they had no rations to feed the soldiers! His pay could be (generously) described as erratic and certainly never came anywhere near what he was supposed to receive. In his entire service he went on the ranges twice and spent 48 hours in the field.
Still, he had a red beret and para wings - he was in what was described as a "special forces Regiment"!
As this unfortunate fellow seems to be the breadwinner for his grandmother, sick aunt and nephew, he, and Thailand, would be far, far better served if he were told to stay at home and look after them. He doesn't want to go to be a soldier, and there is no need for him to go to be a soldier. He wouldn't be any use as a soldier any way.
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4 hours ago, starky said:
@robblok response will be something along the lines of ptp, Thaksin, Thaksin ptp, shins Thaksin I must get in the final word in Thaksin. 20 more posts per thread, I have always been correst, Thaksin. He says he hates both sides equally but I don't even think he is even aware of the obvious bias he has in his posts. Funnier still is he acts like posters on here who don't like the Junta vote for the PTP or somehow support Thaksin. You are wasting your breath.
Hey, give him a chance, he is trying out his new box of crayons...
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Three old scores are about to be settled?
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48 minutes ago, Expatthailover said:
And yet there are many who would say the place is the sodom and gomorrah of 21st century
The woman are all after your money
The men hunt in packs
Police are all corrupt
Seas are brimming with sharks
Etc etc etc
I have never experienced any of these things. All my experiences are nothing but positive.
Funny old world innit
Well you have to make allowances for the "we're doomed" attitude amongst many here, and for others who are horrified to realise that Thailand is not the same as wherever they hail from, and wish to change it to be so.
Pragmatically of course one has to acknowledge that for lots of reasons, some good and some not good, Thailand runs differently. Personally sometimes that delights, charms and entertains me, sometimes it irritates and even annoys me, and occasionally (as with the current road carnage) it horrifies me. On balance I am far more entertained than annoyed. That is why, and for lots of good personal reasons, I am content to live here. But it's not perfect. Nowhere is.
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They are aware of the possibility, and rest assured, as soon as they have got a grip of the overpriced lottery ticket problem they will turn their full attention to it...
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I wonder why the coppers are wearing balaclavas - is it in case any of the girls recognise them?
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27 minutes ago, dave_boo said:
Congratulations you won the pedantic of the day award. There's no way I could have originally had M16 and then decided to change it to M4 and simply didn't hit the backspace key enough times.
Oh, that's right, you'd have to acknowledge the carbine section which would have indicated I wasn't talking about the M1A carbine or SOCOM.
Nothing pedantic at all. You spouted lots of abbreviations and initials, which incidentally I and several other posters on here I know are very familiar with but would really serve to convince the uninitiated that you were an expert, bumped your gums scornfully about "armchair generals" and then made a blatantly wrong statement. Simple matter to replace "M14" with "M16", but you didn't did you. It was after all the central point of your post.
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How absolutely astonishing!
How do they manage to colour co-ordinate his shirt and that Byzantine Halo which inevitably surrounds his head?
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17% on management fees!
Given the eye watering amount of cash which the lottery generates, someone is making a lot of money!
I'll bet it's not the people selling the tickets to the public...
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9 hours ago, Baerboxer said:
Bet he's got his para wings and lots of medal ribbons though!
But of course, did you not pay heed to the grace and agility with which he leapt from his chariot of steel. A worthy Scion of Pegasus. And the courage displayed! Order of the Lean Mean Steely Eyed Killer (1st class)!
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1 hour ago, smutcakes said:
When all the PDRC anti corruption reformers wake up this afternoon they are going to go crazy with this........ right?
On 09/04/2018 at 3:19 PM, DrTuner said:I believe at big football matches, after an "own goal" has been scored, the fans of the team which has benefited chant " It's all gone quiet over there, over there, it's all gone quiet over there..."
Incidentally, I have no idea how DrTuner's quote got in here!
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10 hours ago, Grouse said:Well I suggest to you, that is not very bright. In fact it is so foolish you should sit down and have cup of tea and a biscuit and then ponder why no bright people think Brexit is a good idea. No really. Think about it. There is a small majority of mainly losers, failures, hapless folks and you think WE should take your expert advice? I think not ?
Some weeks ago on another thread, you were deeply critical of what you saw as this countries (Thailand's) failings, and very publicly bemoaning the fact that, because of what you saw as (I paraphrase)," not one of my better life choices," you were trapped here.
Now then, would that make you a"loser", "a failure", "one of the hapless folk" or just not very "bright"?
It's a personal question I know, but you have consistently introduced a very personal element to these discussions on Brexit by coining and using a succession of personally abusive terms for any that do not agree with your views...
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6 hours ago, Tilacme said:Since when is an air force pilot an official diplomat?
Air Attache or assistant attache at the embassy?
About the right rank...
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"What's the fuss?"
We were so worried about you...
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11 hours ago, hansnl said:I presume you are in a nice and cozy cocoon?
Don't know about the trouble in the south?
Don't know about the rogue state and groups in the west?
Don't know about the communist states in the north and the east?
Don't know about the badly covered tensions in the east?
The Thai military isn't bloated, it's on par with the total population.
But underpowered and loaded with material that might be called insufficient, hence the acquisitions.
The trouble in the south will not be solved by artillery. A 155mm howitzer is not effective against a "drive by shooter" with a pistol mounted on a Honda Wave.
The rogue state and groups in the west - I assume that you are referring to the drug and smuggling gangs along the long mountainous jungle covered border with Burma? A heavy wheeled artillery system such as this is effectively road bound in such terrain, and well-made roads with strong bridges at that. these are not very common in this area. Moreover, the concentration of fire produced by these weapons has to be controlled and directed by forward observers, moving on foot with infantry through thick jungle, searching for and finding this enemy. That is not an activity which I suspect the Thai army will be too enthusiastic about. The alternative, speculative fire on locations which you think might contain the enemy, is totally ineffective.
The communist state to the north and east has not the slightest interest, means nor reason, for invading Thailand.
The tensions in the East (border clashes with Cambodia ) have largely been initiated by Thailand.
This system is heavy and requires hard surfaces or good roads to move about. Not a problem in Israel, where it was designed, rather more of a problem in mountainous jungle such as we have here. It also has a very high rate of fire, which means lots and lots of equally heavy and equally road bound trucks to keep it resupplied.
Its a set of shiny new toys, nothing more or less.
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7 hours ago, dave_boo said:
Don't go talking sense.
Most likely these armchair generals haven't even heard of STANAG. There's a reason that an Aussie can pick up an M14 carbine's magazine, slap it into his Austrian made bullpup and continue fighting.
Granted, technically the ATMOS uses the NATO JBMoU but same same.
Umh.. The M14 is a 7.62 calibre weapon.
The "bullpup" Steyr F88 (actually made in Australia but never mind) is a 5.56 calibre weapon.
Neither the magazine nor the rounds will fit...
Signed: "an armchair general"!
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2 hours ago, simon59 said:When i am watching these frequent scenes of high ranking military guys making fools of themseves i wonder what is the real quality of the defense forces ? ( mentally and physically..) For exemple do you expect this leveled tempered, brilliant and charismatic fellow lead troops against anyone?
I think a fair assessment is that they couldn't fight sleep...
This chap obviously hasn't done his Basic Fitness Test for a few years!
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1 hour ago, djjamie said:
Certainly encouraging. Wonderful news for Thailand and its tourism industry.
1 hour ago, djjamie said:So that many tourists during Song Khan holidays? WOW. Now that is impressive.
What is really impressive, (in fact unbelievably impressive) is that the data crunching branch of TAT is able to produce these statistics (rounded up to the nearest% to ease publication no doubt) within 24 hours of the holiday!
The minister has every right to look so smug!
His leadership must be phenomenal, to inspire his staff to such efforts.
Perhaps his brief should be widened to include road safety?
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1 hour ago, chainarong said:
Beside fighting off students , this military must waste billions on spares alone, nothing they have is uniform or cost effective...........................................
Oh, I don.t think that they buy spares to any extent.
once anything is broken and needs replacement, they will be parked up and left.
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‘Prayut creating network of allies’ to remain as PM
in Thailand News
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Berlusconi is indeed a rather unsavoury character, and quite possibly a crook (I don't know).
He was however successively chosen by the Italian electorate, only to be eventually ousted by an avowadly politicised Italian Judiciary.
The last couple of Italian Governments have effectively been imposed upon Italy by the EU (some would say Germany) for fiscal reasons. They are about to have an election. Guess who looks like winning - Berlusconi or rather his party...
Off topic perhaps, but 1) I am responding not initiating; and 2) there are some eerie parrallels with the current situation in Thailand.
As an aside, and an attempt to lighten the tone, can you imagine Berlesconi's reaction to being confronted by Yingluck in full "gorgeous Prime Minister on a state visit" mode? He would go into meltdown!