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I would be surprised if there are any coherent records. This was staged to establish a precedent that expulsions can be arranged without any oversight, judicial or otherwise, based on an obsolete and discredited 240 year old law which was never intended for any situation remotely like this. Honan's blackshirts, empowered by Trumps Sharpie scrawl, simply rounded up enough brown Spanish speakers to fill the 3 aircraft they had available, from whatever detention centres they could get into in time, bussed them to the aircraft and up, up and away; record keeping and screening was probably non existent. It all had to be done quickly to avoid any judicial oversight or actions to stop it. " Brown, check, Latino check, Spanish speakers check, empty the cells, chain 'em together, on the bus with them and away they go", to disappear. Once in El Salvador they may as well be dead - they quite possibly could be within the next year or so. Precedent established, now they need to stop this being forbidden. If they manage to do this, then the future is looking very dark!

I didn't realise that sort of thing was available in Poole - I had imagined that you had to go up the coast to Southampton for that level of sophistication!

Votes, more particularly, votes in certain seats, significantly Labour " heartland" seats which have a high Muslim population. These communities continue the "tribal political traditions" of the country, (let us not mince around the topic - Pakistan) from which they come. A relatively small number of "leaders" control voting patterns through the clan and extended family systems, aided by extensive use and manipulation of postal voting. On of the "side effects" of the last election was the emergence, and some success, of independent "Muslim" candidates. Previously the block vote had gone to Labour, now it is not so reliable. They (Labour) are worried.

Without wishing to be picky, but this will significantly increase demand for electricity, the generation of which, using the fuels available in rural Africa ( poor quality open cast lignite probably), is likely to involve significant pollution. People who rely on scavenged firewood for cooking are unlikely to have the cash to pay for more electricity - if they have an electricity supply in the first place! All a bit pointless I would suggest. There are plenty of other projects in rural Africa on which £99 million could be spent for much more benefit - clean water supply for example.

You obviously don't go to the same dinner parties as our man Bob. Rather to your credit actually!

Teslas for example - hang about, aren't they made in Shanghai?

I have to say that the two most attractive young Asian women I have encountered in recent months were both Indonesian (neither were Muslims).

I have, as you both know, posted in opposition to the movement of these people for the purpose of incarceration by a third party. I posted as I believe it is wrong, because they were assembled, rounded up, whatever the phrase used, under a 240 year old law, intended to be used in wartime, and which has been thoroughly discredited. If these people were convicted criminals they should be serving the sentences handed down by the courts which convicted them, and or deported to their country of origin as ordered by the courts. If they are accused of crimes then they should be tried, and if convicted, be imprisoned and or deported. If they are illegally in the USA then they should be brought before the appropriate courts and deported to their country of origin. Those are their human rights. Instead they have been arbitrarily transported, to another country, which will incarcerate them (under pretty savage conditions) for a year or possibly longer, paid for by the US. No court has authorised that arbitrary detention. There appears to have been no judicial involvement, purely an executive order. That order and the process it initiated, when challenged by a court, continued in effect. The judge who intervened said that transporting them was not to happen, and that the flights should return to US. That the flights were in "international airspace" when the order was issued is a particularly feeble excuse to flout the judges order. So their "human rights" have been severely infringed. Human rights are often an inconvenience, and with good reason, they prevent miscarriages of justice. A very dangerous precedent has been set. Presidential fiat is being used to short circuit the law, and ignore the law when it responds. I am not surprised at @thaibeachlovers response, I rather thought that @Eloquent pilgrimwould have had rather more respect for the rule of law - obviously not. I received one other reply, one of the more regularly vituperative posters snarled that I should have been put in the prison with them. That post was removed in short order. It has been a very bad couple of days for the rule of law in the USA.

Under the US immigration rules if they were found to be illegal immigrants they can of course be deported to their countries of origin. They weren't deported to their countries of origin though were they, they were rounded up, without any apparent judicial process, under a dubious application of a 250 year old law, itself intended for use in wartime, and sent post haste to a third country, which it would appear has been paid to take them. There, in that third country, they will be incarcerated in conditions which are internationally condemned. They will be kept, without having been convicted or remanded, for at least a year. No charge, no court hearing, no conviction. They have, effectively, been "disappeared" A legal sanction was available, deport them to Venezuela. Instead they were sent to a third country which is being paid to detain them indefinitely. They may be criminals, but that has to be proven before they are jailed. That is what courts are for. Even as criminals, even as foreigners, even as blood polluting brown people, they have rights. El Salvador and the Trump administration are mocking the courts. I wonder how many, perhaps were legally resident, or even maybe US citizens? We will never know, they have effectively disappeared. Is there even a list of names? I would bet it wouldn't happen if they were white!

I half anticipate something along the lines of: "I had the (bigliest) mandate of all time in my greatest ever landslide win in 2024. The corrupt judiciary/traitorous democrats/obstructive bureaucrats/nasty media/ deep state/ treasonous liberals have not allowed me to fulfill that mandate, therefore, in the name of democracy I must remain as president for a third term to complete that mandate."

Bizarre fascination?

The more I read, the more I am resolved to avoid Pattaya. Not because of the girls, or even the ladyboys, but the bizarre farangs which seems to lurk around every corner!

That is the difference between a political ideology and membership of a personality cult.

Ahah, haven't heard the "illegal bioweapons labs" baloney for a while - did they ship them from Ukraine to Taiwan then?

I get more excited when they lick their lips!

Umh, that would be embarrassing for a certain chap whose family originally hails from lower Bavaria!

I thought Hong Kong was utterly incredible. Mind you, it was some 50 years ago and I was a young soldier who had never been out of the UK before! Gorgeous women too! Started a lifetime infatuation.

El Salvador - that shining beacon of human rights, judicial independence and democratic values. With friends like that...

Possibly because rational people fairly rapidly realised that Mr Trump's immigration control policies are based on xenophobia and racial hatred. Misusing a law dating from the 1780s, (utterly discredited when last used against Americans of Japanese origins), will allow him to circumvent what feeble efforts Congress may attempt to moderate this racist zeal.

Well apart from: Canada taking and sheltering your diplomats when the US Embassy was seized in Teheran, NATO invoking article 5 in the treaty when you were attacked on 9/11, Canada taking the stranded/diverted aircraft and passengers, many countries expending their blood and treasure (including Denmark and Canada) in your various foreign interventions in the Middle East when asked... More recently European acquiescence to American led sanctions on Russia, Iran, North Korea to name a few. We could go back further - Korea, most of Western Europe and the Commonwealth, Vietnam - Australia and New Zealand. Funny how the same names come up isn't it?

The "infobahn"does not reach, for example, into Myanmar/Burma, and is heavily controlled in countries such as China. Intenet access is not readily available in many parts of the developing world. Transistor radios are a readily available means of receiving broadcasts.

"Ooh Matron!"

The latest video evidence I have seen confirms it is round: https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16Pqibd4gd/

Remarkable that it took a Police Major General no less to plan and run an operation in Nana Plaza which managed to find 13 tarts!

Are there enough Hattie Jacques and James Robertson Justices available to run our hospitals - they haven't been run effectively since the likes of them were replaced by managers!😀