JAG

No It means that I am tired of any post or point of view which dares to see anything other than evil in any of the current governements actions being met with abuse, scorn and accusations of stupidity, deceit, dishonesty, fascist sympathy and even on one recent occasion accusations of being a paedophile. True that one was removed by the mods, but the effect remains. Meaningfull debate has been closed down, and even the ability or desire to express an opinion has been removed. I and I suspect many others have had enough. And the ultimate irony, those responsible are always harping on about democracy!

So what you are saying is that you wished uncomfortable voices was silenced so you could enjoy yourself more?

No read my post. you know perfectly well that I didn't say that.

Interesting to note that it seems as if the greater majority of the T.V.F Thaksin and Red Shirt proponents seem to have upped sticks and left already, they are. indeed conspicuous by their absence in this particular thread.

One can only but presume those proponents are seeing the truth at last in all its ugly facets.

Never too late to learn is it .

No, they have just given up on the hatefest which this forum has become.

Does that mean that you want to defend the red shirt intimidation, but don't like so many responses asking you to justify your position?

No It means that I am tired of any post or point of view which dares to see anything other than evil in any of the current governements actions being met with abuse, scorn and accusations of stupidity, deceit, dishonesty, fascist sympathy and even on one recent occasion accusations of being a paedophile. True that one was removed by the mods, but the effect remains. Meaningfull debate has been closed down, and even the ability or desire to express an opinion has been removed. I and I suspect many others have had enough. And the ultimate irony, those responsible are always harping on about democracy!

I am extremely thrilled he took this stand at the Pattaya Police station!!!!!! I had my laptop stolen.....Identified and found the thai that stole it. Police did absolutely nothing but write a stupid report. Another time .... Almost hit with an umbrella by a motorcycle taxi driver during an argument HE started (after the police left the scene). I beat his ass for TRYING to hit me with the umbrella. He runs away looking for the police again. Then I had to pay a fine and for his "so-called" injuries While again the Pattaya Police did nothing!!!!!!! WHAT a waste of human space!!!!!

Surely, if you beat up a Motorcycle Taxi Driver, you can't be surprised that you were fined?

what about other Banks such as TMB, Siam Commercial (refused to open an account years ago without work permit, but Kasikorn did), Siam City Bank, Krung Thai ? Any good nowadays ? online-banking available ? or still need work permit for everything ?

Krung Thai (Big C branch) allowed me to open an account with a type O Visa, and Best Beloved to vouch for me and produce her house book (Tabien Ban?).

Interesting to note that it seems as if the greater majority of the T.V.F Thaksin and Red Shirt proponents seem to have upped sticks and left already, they are. indeed conspicuous by their absence in this particular thread.

One can only but presume those proponents are seeing the truth at last in all its ugly facets.

Never too late to learn is it .

No, they have just given up on the hatefest which this forum has become.

oh look what is happening...

All the Pro Yingluck supporters that have made a come back to the forums have suddenly all gone quiet...

They switch sides like the wind...

I suspect that they have simply given up, bored with the anti Yingluk/Thaksin/PTP/Red Shirt/etc hatefest which this forum has become.

If you seriously believe that the red shirt movement is not an armed force, despite the dead soldiers and numerous grenade attacks last year, and the number of red shirt members who have been caught with military weapons and/or confessed to using them, then you are seriously mentally imbalanced or suffering serious short term memory loss. Oh, and add in the exploding apartment building.

BTW slingshots, Molotov cocktails and even wooden staves are weapons. If I was a serving soldier and you were to attack me with any one of the three, I would have no qualms about shooting you dead centre of the seen mass, just like the instruction manual recommends it.

Edit:spelling

And having been a serving soldier facing such a crowd, which was using such weapons, I can assure you that you would be facing a charge of murder.

Thank you gentlemen. Coming to Chiang Rai in September, I will investigate - purely in the interest of research of course.

I'll tell best beloved that it is a special farang fruit juice!

Cider!! In Chiang Rai!!

Sceadugenga, you peerless individual, please pin this place on the map, so I can visit when i am next over.

Northern Farms Cheddar and now Cider. You have made a Somerset Man very happy!

And with nonsense like this, your fall from respected forum contributor that i always viewed you to be, despite a great difference of opinion usually shared, to out and out troll looking to insult and offend those with differing opinion, is complete. You have reached the bottom.

Quite funny though , and certainly touched a few nerves.

Although it is intersting to talk about Thai politics and even try to guess what may happen or why something happened, at the end of the day for us on here it is all academic really as we dont have a vote and it isnt our country and the people do seem to have a mind of their own in making decisions that doesnt always fit with what media, government or powerful people want.

... and especially with what many of the posters on this forum want!

Steady on Rubl. I appreciate you don't like them, but think about what is implied by associating them with what is generally regarded as a youth anthem for the Third Reich!

I wouldn't know Rubl. I'll take your word for it.

Oh I comprende mate. I comprende that an opinion which differs from yours is met with accusations of misinformation and rewriting history! You need to understand that a differing opinion does not make me an idiot.

The claim I made was not an idiotic one. It was a somewhat tongue in cheek response admittedly, but it expressed a widely held opinion, both throughout Thailand and beyond. You accused me of misinformation and rewriting history. I stand by my view. You no doubt will stand by yours. Fine, but there is no call to ridicule it. Comprende!

i don't understand, what is the big deal with allowing him to have a new citizen passport?

i) He's a convicted criminal that has not served his sentence.

ii) He's on the run from the law.

iii) He was convicted at the behest of the people who sponsored a military coup to overthrow him.

Seriously, is this kind of misinformation going to continue for years, until you have written your own history-books so everyone in your village will stay ignorant to what really happened?

I express my opinion. I am far from a lone voice. It is an opinion as valid as yours. It is not misinformation, nor an attempt to rewrite history. As a self professed libertarian you should at least tolerate other people expressing their views. a quick flip through your recent posts shows that that is not the case.

i don't understand, what is the big deal with allowing him to have a new citizen passport?

i) He's a convicted criminal that has not served his sentence.

ii) He's on the run from the law.

iii) He was convicted at the behest of the people who sponsored a military coup to overthrow him.

Perfect Storm, Thaksin and Obama, fill your boots lads!

What part of winning elections do you have difficulty comprehending?

The part when the party he does not favour wins

But does he do chips covered in mayonaise?

How about a city centre anti congestion tax, say 500 baht a day entry fee to a predefined central zone for private cars Monday to Friday, exemption for business deliveries, public transport, taxis etc.

Reduce traffic and/or create revenue to upgrade alternative travel modes

Great Idea. We can have surveillance cameras, databases, enforcement officers, fines, appeals tribunals, endless arguments about whether diplomatic vehicles are exempt etc etc. It will be just like living in a well regulated highly taxed european city, should really cheer everyone up!

Certainly better educated, more successful at work, and a better parent than a great many foreigners resident in Thailand.

And that makes her qualified to be the leader of a country of 60 million people?

She is qualified because she won the general election.

Abhisit is not qualified because he lost the general election.

Gentlemen, thank you for your replies.

CAT CDMA looks to be the way forward.

JAG

Hello

First, I am a technological pigmy, and so I need some very simple answers.

I have a house in a rural part of Chiang Rai Province, in a small village some 25km from town. The village has a landline which runs in along the main road, and supports a couple of telephone call boxes. (why I don't know as everyone has a mobile!)

There are DTAC and AIS towers within about 5km. Edge is available.

I am currently and for the immediate future in the UK, visiting about 4 times a year ( I look after my elderly mother). Wife, daughter and stepson are in my house.

I would like to be able to use Skype Video calls to communicate. I am not over bothered about the video quality, as long as it is workable.

Can anyone suggest how to achieve this? Options seem to be:

1. Aircard with DTAC or AIS, although there seems to be some doubt as to wether this would be fast enough to support Skype Video.

2. A landline into the house from TOT. Again, I suspect that the distance from the exchange is such that the copper string would be unable to provide a fast enough connection for Skype Video.

3. A Sattelite connection.

Has any kind soul any suggestions?

Thank You

The part you are making up is that there was a democratically elected government deposed by the army. That wasn't the case in 2006.

It was & you know it

Why does this return every week or so? Just another newbie who can't be bothered to do homework first? Agitation? Tell a lie often enough so it gets 'truth' status?

The care-taker government of k. Thaksin had a distinct illegal character. K. Thaksin had stepped down and come back again, second time without royal endorsement. The caretaker government tried to dismantle checks and balances by putting trustworthy persons (like Shinawatra family members) in crucial positions to be able to control judiciary, police, army, whatever. The planned election in October 2006 was beyond the legal limit according to the constitution. Etc., etc.

With Thailand basicly a democracy this could continue even with the illegal character. Almost like Belgium without a government for more than a year now, but without the illegal aspects

1. Why does it return? Because whichever way you slice it Thaksin was prime minister because he had been elected to that role. That the pre coup election failed to produce a quorum, because the democrats, aware that they would lose it boycotted it, does not change that. The EC currently declared it void (quelle surprise). The Army deposed him in a coup, and despite Thaksins faction winning again they were manoeuvered out of power using the courts and an Army brokered political stitch up. Thaksin, at the time he was deposed, had a greater claim on the premiership, based on a mandate, than the generals who deposed him, and started this whole business.

2. Comments about newbies are a cheap shot, and are not a means of browbeating anyone who does not subscribe to your view. The fact that you have been here, either in Thailand or on this forum, for a relatively long time, does not give your views any particular legitamacy, however impressive your post count.

3 Thaksin was deposed by an illegal military coup, his partys subsequent political victory was neutralised by a stitch up. The Thai electorate believe that, and they have given their judgement.

wont ok my view is as good as any and yes Taksin could be as bad as Stalin poll pot and rest. One day you and others will see that unless of course he is stopped and he will be here trust me on that within year just wait and see and tell me in 1 year hes not back and if theirs not a coup or something that within 2 years he will be back to his old ways trying to get total complete absolute power.

OK Letitbe, lets put it in nice simple short words. If you think Thaksin is anywhere near the evil that was Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot, then you are quite simply barking!