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  1. @ Berkshire - "But the impact of longstay expats on the economy is so inconsequential and insignificant as to not even be worth talking about."

    I'm not so sure. Your statement may be true in Bangkok and similar areas, but the impact of long-stay expats on the economy (and culture) in Northern Thailand is significant. Not only is it worth talking about, it's worth studying. Has anyone seen any readable studies on "Effects of Long-Term Expats on Northern Thailand Culture and Economy"? There would have to be at least two separate areas of study, the northeast and the northwest. (I would be more interested in the northeast as I have not yet been to the northwest.)

    Academics will do research depending on the money that comes to them. You need to be aware of the political economy of research. So it is unsuprising to reveal to you that most articles are STI/AIDS orientated:

    e.g.

    'Lovelorn Farangs: The Correspondence between Foreign Men and Thai Girls'

    Erik Cohen; Anthropological Quarterly, Vol. 59, No. 3 (Jul., 1986), pp. 115-127

    There are even articles of the reverse (thais sending remittances to Thailand):

    'Remittances and ‘Social Remittances’: Their Impact on Livelihoods of Thai Women in the Netherlands and Non-migrants in Thailand', Panitee Suksomboon

    Gender, Technology and Development, September/December 2008; vol. 12, 3: pp. 461-482.

    It strikes me that academics are far more likely to analyse the anxiety of expats in attempting to generate an identity of belonging and legitimacy via their economic offerings. Many of the farang in Issan are lower middle-class or working class so will struggle with the re-ordering of identity required to be the 'immigrant'.

    e.g.

    'Western retirees in Thailand: motives, experiences, wellbeing, assimilation and future needs' RW Howard - Ageing and Society, 2008 - Cambridge Univ Press

    What your asking for is a fairly straightforward economistic approach to the research. I am sure the Thai government has done unpublished research on this. But you don't need peer-reviewed papers to do something that simple. The academics are going to be looking at the social 'plays' and ploys that the women must go through as mostly sex workers in the urban areas and the way they use the money and farang marriage to negotiate/ gain social prestige and so on.

  2. How about "พูดไทย - มือใหม่" (Speak Thai - "new hand")

    In practice the มือใหม่ designation usually implies that one is "in training" as you see on so many cars that should be avoided.

    This works because it is (1) short and sweet (2) it rhymes and (3) it is friendly and likely to get people to speak Thai with you.

    Good Luck

    NG

    I think this risks encouraging what I am trying to discourage. It implies the 'speak thai nitnoi' narrative. This established the farang is aware of a slice of Thai phrases but is going to be/needs to be reliant on the Thai. Still, handy for beginners I think. :jap:

  3. Sorry in advance for another long post. ... :whistling:

    If you're going for the 'governmental edict' look, you've got that pegged already!

    ห้ามพูดอังกฤษบริเวณนี้

    ปรับเงิน ไม่เกิน ๒๐๐๐

    Forbidden to speak thai in this area

    Fine not to exceed 2000baht

    That is one fine post Tod. Thank you very much for your suggestions. The one above is my favourite. :jap:

  4. Might I suggest a size XXX-Large T-shirt in order to accommodate your message. What kind of tiny font would one have to use to get this entire message on a T-shirt?

    "กรุณาอย่าพููดภาษาอังกฤษกับผม เพราะมันทำให้ผมรู้สึกแปลกๆ

    พูดภาษาไทยกับผมเถอะนะ แล้วคุณจะเห็นรอยยิ้มหวานๆบนใบหน้านี้

    ขอบคุณครับ"

    ...That was going to be part of the comedic effect-- make it look like a legal regulation... I think the design of the T-shirt is key.

  5. A lot of positive responses there-- thanks to you all!

    Tod, your translation has made me think. I'll come back to you on what I end up doing. Anyway, since I ahven't got what I wanted... :( ...I'll do it myself and see if anybody wants to correct... I am particularly interested in what sense/tone it has about it. It is not quite the same as I first set out:

    "กรุณาอย่าพููดภาษาอังกฤษกับผม เพราะมันทำให้ผมรู้สึกแปลกๆ

    พูดภาษาไทยกับผมเถอะนะ แล้วคุณจะเห็นรอยยิ้มหวานๆบนใบหน้านี้

    ขอบคุณครับ"

    [smiley face]

    Well, how about that?...

    I like the idea of it sounding verbose as that in itself has a comedic effect...

  6. ...so there I was just looking at the company's brochure for the upcoming Annual General Meeting on 22nd April when I noticed something very very very fishy....

    Mr Eric Levine claims to have a PhD from Mannin University in the UK. Except, there is no such University.

    post-60541-0-85558100-1301156826_thumb.j

    ...and a monk in Singapore who also claimed to have gone to this fake 'university' was outed in the Singapore's The Straits Times.

    http://www.asiaone.com/News/The%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20071119-37417.html

    "But The Straits Times found on the Web two individuals who claimed to have graduated from Mannin University. One is the head of a group promoting human rights in the Maldives, and the other a man who runs a chain of gyms in Thailand." [the website writes]

    Oh... My... God... (having said that, this news is 3 years old so presumably you all knew already...)

    My predictions for the life expectancy for California Wow has now shrunk from 3 months to 2 months.

    I would now say it is immoral of the staff of CalWow to attempt to sell membership to any member of the public.

    And that AGM on 22nd April might be the most exciting entertainment of the day.

  7. To the last three posters...

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    Please forgive them Oh Lord, for they know not what they speak.

    It never ceases to amaze me the amount of free-- and very unsolicited-- advice from minds far wiser than mine come my way in the Thaivisa forum. It is, I suppose a forum, and that does encourage members to chat. But one does have a sneaking suspicion that their advice is that of monolinguals, and they simply have no insight into the travails endured in the language aquisition game. And one cannot help noticing they are infrequent visitors to the language forum.

    The advice offered appears to not recognise the very real language war game that is a daily grind of the Thai speaker. My problem is not finding people to speak to, it is putting off people speaking to me. I am certain the T-shirt will have a remarkably good effect just as a badge I found for 'Gap' workers in Japan that said "japanese please" on it saved a lot of 'negotiation time'.

    The advice of the last is the most silly. The difference between an advanced speaker and a fluent speaker is vast. But only a fluent speaker has the ability to offer what I am after: "exactly replicate the English tone, style and sense, and have no grammatical errors". I am not after, a kind of okay translation, which is one I can already perform.

    So, with that out the way, and with I think it now clear that I never sought any advice but just a translation, I ask for help again from those that can offer it.

    :jap:

  8. The sheer contempt for Indians and Bangladeshis, combined with the utter disgust for the 4 million Burmese migrants to Thailand, probably largely explains the figures, rather than the 10,000 british farang, 10,000 Americans and so on, with work visas.

  9. Reverse culture shock is very real, and is a recognised problem. The extent you feel it depends on how much culture shock you had coming to Thailand. If you felt very little coming here, you are likely to suffer very badly going home.

    But 3 weeks definitely is not long enough. It may be unpleasant but not at the levels of unease that you can expect if you go back for more than a few months. Of course, if only 3 weeks, it can be reassuring to know you hate your home as it will refresh your time in Thailand when you return.

    Just be aware of it. Keep yourself busy. And expect your friends back there to treat your time in Thailand as a gap, something to be forgotten. Expect them to show no interest in your time in Thailand and anticipate you will start many sentences "Well, when I was in Thailand..."

    :jap:

  10. I don't think many in the academic world take the categories of gay/straight very seriously, except as artifacts of the forces of socially constructed identities. The gay category was the undesirable Other of the social world. The 'straight' was a carefully disciplined body kept in line to maintain the economically and socially critical marriage insitution along with the production of the docile economic man. The 'bi' was added later as the categories started to fall apart. And as for women... the mainstream academic opinion is to not put them in any categories-- they are, in a sense, all lesbians... and straight.

    A modern test includes categories as 'ambisexuial', 'polyamorous', 'supersexual', heteroflexible and so on. The old categories rested on an intense interest in the male phallus. It could not conceive of wishing to have sex with a man unless there was an intense interest in the phallus. The new categories invite a more bright way of thinking.

    If you want to know how to understand your own sexuality then try this:

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dEJTVHRRRmJkRUpUR3c1VnpxeTZZX0E6MA

    The test will reveal how, typically, sexual interests overlap-- it is plausible to be three at the same time.

    Explanation of types is here: http://flexuality.wordpress.com/take-the-test/

    So when you talk of 8% or 10% or anything else, I recoil with laughter. The figure of men who have sexual interest in other men is around the 70 to 80% mark, but it all depends what 'sexual interest' means. My point is trying to demarcate on a percentage for those interested in men/having had sex with me/wants to have sex with men, simply makes no sense. It ends up a tortuous charade of no insight.

    :jap:

  11. If there is one thing i've learnt in Thailand, it's never to take for granted that when a Thai says " That's my Brother ", " That's my Sister ", " That's my Aunt " etc etc etc, it generally actually isn't..

    I sometimes think that they just say things because they are too lazy to actually explain what the connection with that Person actually is..

    My Thai second cousin calls me 'Uncle'.

    (*by second cousin, I mean my Uncle's wife's sister's granddaughter. Yep.)

  12. I want to use about 4 apps for Thai language study. The problem is one of the apps is only available on the iPhone. I do not want an iPhone.

    Can I:

    1.) Get a smartphone that can use iPhone apps?

    2.) convert an app to another operating system?

    Thanks in advance.

  13. Thsi all reminds me of the uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction :blink: that occured at Tokaimura power station in Ibaraki around 1999.

    I got on my motorbike and went to see the plant (seeing things that make it into the news is my hobby-- just as yours is fishing and sunbathing)...

    Anyway, here is a nice chronology of the disgraceful work practices that led to an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction...

    http://www.isis-online.org/publications/tokai.html

  14. Speedi radiation levels are reported in nGy/h (nanoGray per hour), to confuse matters even more :P

    1 Gray = 1 Sievert. 1000 nGy = 1 μSv

    Highest level I saw on that post was Horiguchi, 1240 nGy/h. So in units we are now used to that is equivalent to 1.24μSv/h or 0.001mSv/h, just a little elevated over background radiation.

    Crucially, the figures are not up for the Fukushima plant. The two relevant figures are 'under survey'. The Horiguchi is there to monitor the Tokai No2 plant station.

  15. The worst thing about Cali are most of the members. Very few have any sense of gym etiquette. Today, for example, I was waiting for a bench, and one guy saw me, but just sat on the bench for about 10 minutes talking on his cell. After he hung up, he sat there for another minute before getting up and walking off to a machine.

    This is one example, but poor gym etiquette abounds there.

    I thought that was a thailand thing. Can others describe their experiences at other gyms. I concur with Colonel Bonobo that CalWow members have very poor gym etiquette.

  16. typo darling, sorry, will try to be more careful next time. Going to bed, soon I think. ;)

    Smashing! I thought I was going to have to put in the four hours' face time that someone mentioned earlier... See you there!

    SC

    That depends on the lady's culture. If SBK is American you've got 10 hours ahead of you. Although, you can take breaks. Say, two 4 hour dates and then a quick meet up at the wine bar and you'll be good to go.

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