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Well that post has disappeared too now so I can't check. OK think I found the post - again, there is no vdo or description in there that matches what I saw on the day.

Oh no. The return of Confucius. I'm away for my wine. Goodnight boys and girls.

I did not dismiss it - I said it was a different scene - the scene I watched is no longer available on the internet. That's it.

I did not ignore it. It was a different scene, as I have said.

Can't you see that's exactly what you are doing now? Trivial? See my post above where I say this: My motivation for this particular issue is that the presence of even a modestly larger security detail, better prepared, equipped and with significant backup/reinforcements available standing by close at hand would have probably controlled the situation and prevented the breech of the Capitol, along with the death, injury and damage that it caused.

My motivation for this particular issue is that the presence of even a modestly larger security detail, better prepared, equipped and with significant backup/reinforcements available standing by close at hand would have probably controlled the situation and prevented the breech of the Capitol, along with the death, injury and damage that it caused. Is my "record" of supporting GOP and MAGA positions on file somewhere? Oh Jeepers! Here is my position: I am not signed up or allied to the GOP. MAGA is a gimmick but I have no problem with America being great - I see that greatness as a necessary foil to the other "great" contenders in the world right now. I was not a real fan of Trump before 2016 but I was certainly no fan of the alternative then, at all. I think as President, Trump did better job than Biden has done or will do but right after the 2020 election, I think that Trump would have done much better to just concede and prepare to hand over - I've said this on here already but maybe that detail is missing from my "record". It is not surprising that these "other posters" come up with assumptions. That's what they do all the time!

If you actually look at what I've said then you might see that I have not condoned nor tried to excuse any behaviour that led to death or injury. Just because I've recently been focusing on one aspect of the day, that doesn't mean I'm ignoring all of the others.

I responded to your links claim already with: Nothing here disproves what I saw. The VDO segments that do open are different scenes. The particular issue I'd like resolved concerns the question of Capitol security arrangements on the day and who was responsible for those. End of.

Nah. That's not what I said at all. But you knew that.

Thankyou. I think what is important is what was known about "it" at the time, and in the days and weeks prior to J6. According to your link then these 20 separate intelligence items were known of by at least one law enforcement or security agency, and there was at least some pooling of this info before J6. This just tells me to ask the same question as before: why Capitol security was so weak on the day??

Nothing here disproves what I saw. The VDO segments that do open are different scenes.

I know what I saw, that's it. I have no reason to make things up or lie. I'm not trying to defend anybody but I am interested to know why Capitol security was so weak on the day. Take it or leave it. I don't care.

OK, your sarcastic post has worked, so I'll take the bait. On J6, I was monitoring several live TV channels, in turn, as the event was unfolding. Some of the footage transmitted looked to have been relayed from mobile phone VDO feeds and it was one of these that showed a policeman (uniformed but without riot gear) unlocking a pair of double doors, opening them and moving aside as some protesters walked in - yes, walked - I don't have a count but in this case only a few protesters, at least initially. That scene (above) stopped after that and I can't find the same segment any more, just as I can't find a lot of stuff now. It looks like there were at least two breaches about the same time - I know that the west side one was much worse, with more people, noise, violence and damage from the Proud Boys, or whoever they were. I think the scene of easier entry was somewhere on the east side. In both cases the police forces were undermanned, especially considering the warning signs from the preceding days and it took far too long for support to arrive.

I told you why. It is a pain doing these reruns, of which there have been many. And the reality is that it won't make a difference - that much I have leaned after so long - I don't really want another opportunity to waste my time. Thanks.

I'm sure you could mange that.

Filipkowksi even openly twists the quote from the vdo. Great.

No problem.

Yes, it is a pain. You'll just have to take my word for it.

Alright, I'll use this one. The centre for American Progress founded by John Podesta, Democrat Party member and senior advisor to Joe Biden. I'll pass thanks.

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A pathetic attempt at justification more than a problem. Anyway, what can you expect from a flip-flop remainer PM like Theresa May?

There were lies from both sides. Your kids can still travel and work abroad. The economic difficulties of leaving were expected, are evident and have been acknowledged by several leavers on this forum over more than 6 years now, myself included. Our reasons for wanting out, have also been well explained but are never credited, accepted or acknowledged by the remainers here.....to me, that's the difference.

Your posts are certainly very rich, I'm sure.

I never remember baht prices - sorry.

2000?