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I have been extorted in the past and it is no laughing matter. After an oil massage, with what seemed like several accidental brushes against my nethers, the girl asked if I wanted to give her extra for a special. Needless to say I was curious so I paid the money. Now I am so affected mentally that I fall for the same trap every time I go for an oil massage. Can someone help me?

Never go into these places with a 'loaded gun'.

Haha

But sure, i can help you out with that one. I'll send you to the massage joint i went to once.

One hour oil massage was ok, got same same several "accidental" brushes against the nethers, but no talk of any added extras or specials or anything else..then charged 600baht on the way out.

I was never tempted to go back again!!!

"Never paid for it" is an interesting statement.

I once dated a Thai/Chinese "good" girl with a good job in Bangkok, met on the dating websites. I never paid for it then either, but i did spent well in access of 10k in a manner of weeks, going out to all the expensive places she liked.

To say i never paid for it was exactly the case anyways, as one night after a month or i so, when i got down to the nitty-gritty with her she told me that she thinks of our friendship same same as her brother. no sex, so nothing to "pay" for

Never had the same problems with girls from other origins though. As a rule they dont like going out in the city as everything is so expensive and they dont really like it anyway. But life in the burbs can be much better due the lack of a long line of punters solely searching for farang $s.

Anyway, I can with all honesty say i've never paid a lump sum in agreement for sex with these GFs, but i would'nt be as naive as to state they never cost me anything.

I have spent quite a bit in their company, as Thai girls do not expect to "go Dutch" for expenses as a rule, and will not usually suffer being seen opening their purse to help the farang pay for the bill.

This is confusing. Are you saying you didn't actually have sex with her? Or are you saying you did [have sex], but since she regards you in the same light as her brother, she was committing incest?

Sorry mate, but i gotta say i do find your question a little confusing. I don't know how you came to that!

We'd dated a few times, getting to know each other as you do as usual, then wait and see what happens.

After a month or so i tested the waters to see if she was interested in something more than just "friends" but she said she likened our relationship to that of a brother..

ie. looking on me in the same light as she would a brother.

I guess it was her way Thai of saying "i just want to be friends" like a western woman would.

Seeing how in Thai culture and language they sometimes even refer to friends and even strangers as brother or sister i can kind of understand it. I guess its a polite way of knocking someone back without blatant rejection.

No sex involved, no talk of sex or incest or anything like that!

There is no need for older guys to go with bar girls too, there are plenty of good women out there looking for decent guys.

If only they would get off the computer long enough to meet them, somehow I doubt it.

Good observation.

Me, i usually get on computer after 3am, when all the debauchery is over and the girl i have not paid to go home has gone home

As for these "good" girls..They are most probably on Facebook bragging to their friends about the latest rich farang they will take for a ride

(pun not intended)

"Never paid for it" is an interesting statement.

I once dated a Thai/Chinese "good" girl with a good job in Bangkok, met on the dating websites. I never paid for it then either, but i did spent well in access of 10k in a manner of weeks, going out to all the expensive places she liked.

To say i never paid for it was exactly the case anyways, as one night after a month or i so, when i got down to the nitty-gritty with her she told me that she thinks of our friendship same same as her brother. no sex, so nothing to "pay" for

Never had the same problems with girls from other origins though. As a rule they dont like going out in the city as everything is so expensive and they dont really like it anyway. But life in the burbs can be much better due the lack of a long line of punters solely searching for farang $s.

Anyway, I can with all honesty say i've never paid a lump sum in agreement for sex with these GFs, but i would'nt be as naive as to state they never cost me anything.

I have spent quite a bit in their company, as Thai girls do not expect to "go Dutch" for expenses as a rule, and will not usually suffer being seen opening their purse to help the farang pay for the bill.

10k in a matter of weeks! my you really do know how to chuck it about.

Yeah, i guess thats why my GFs occasionally call me kee niow yet they seem to come back for more.

Im sure they'd have even better names for the guys on here who are so young and verile and handsum who claim they never spend anything on their girls. They all go dutchies and if you listen to them..the girls probably even pay them.

Oviously a case of...true love

Anyway, i mentioned weeks...in total.

There was'nt that many dates, but the few were expensive ones,by Bangkok standards, and by other GFs standards too.

They would have a heart attack at the thought of spending 3k on entertainment for one night.

And with regards to these so called hi-so,Thai/chins that go out wiith all the studs on here..in reality you are often lucky to see them twice a week as these "good" girls seem to be busy with work and supposedly work related functions...

But NOoooo...theres no way they'd be out socialising with all the other farangs on the net that "don't pay 'em"

what a larf!

"Never paid for it" is an interesting statement.

I once dated a Thai/Chinese "good" girl with a good job in Bangkok, met on the dating websites. I never paid for it then either, but i did spent well in access of 10k in a manner of weeks, going out to all the expensive places she liked.

To say i never paid for it was exactly the case anyways, as one night after a month or i so, when i got down to the nitty-gritty with her she told me that she thinks of our friendship same same as her brother. no sex, so nothing to "pay" for

Never had the same problems with girls from other origins though. As a rule they dont like going out in the city as everything is so expensive and they dont really like it anyway. But life in the burbs can be much better due the lack of a long line of punters solely searching for farang $s.

Anyway, I can with all honesty say i've never paid a lump sum in agreement for sex with these GFs, but i would'nt be as naive as to state they never cost me anything.

I have spent quite a bit in their company, as Thai girls do not expect to "go Dutch" for expenses as a rule, and will not usually suffer being seen opening their purse to help the farang pay for the bill.

To say scamming money off farangs on FB is any part of Thai culture is stretching it a bit for obvious reasons.

What i can say however, is the intention to go and "work" amongst farangs in hope of finding a rich one to eventually marry is a big part of life in the smaller villages up north.

I've seen it first hand with girls just out of school. Not particulary academically minded and not really up to, or capable of mixing it with business minded Bankokians, they soon go to the girl in the village that works in Pattaya who's back home briefly to ask how its all done.

The experienced girls sometimes even take a group of girls to Patts and introduce them to their err.."contacts"...thus the seed for them to turn into a potential scammer is sown, since pretty soon they will do nearly anything for money, even when they have a lot of it.

The sad thing is that Thai culture has done NOTHING towards changing any of this.

The FB issue is something completely different though. If these girls are educated enough to have a computer, IPad, whatever, and have the money or family to have provided these things in the first place, it is obvious they are up to no good.

A lot of these types are well educated and come from well heeled families and even have good normal jobs. They have no reason other than greed to take part in sort of thing.

In short, a product of a part of society that is rotten to core, sadly corrupted by what they have seen from THEIR culture.

These FB girls have had opportunities WAY and above the average Isaan girl, and they DO have other options.

They need a good swift toe in ar$e IMO.

Also, it should be stated...12call has a simple system whereby you can block another callers number from contacting you..if needs be....could come in handy for all parties

Bit off topic, but how does this work? I can block sms but haven't found the option to block calls.

Back on topic, I very rarely engage in conversation with other guys in a bar. If that happens, most times it is a polite, light chat that ends with a "take care, have a good time". A few times it is a few wasted minutes with bar-experts-on-everything-in-life. I get away from those pretty fast and without much care for manners. Rarely, a nice conversation I genuinely enjoy. In this case, I usually give (if asked) my email address, still try to avoid giving the phone number, simply by saying the truth, that I hate the intrusions. If we keep in touch and things become close to a friendship or at least a cordial social contact, I don't have any problems exchanging numbers.

About the phone blocking: Have never had reason to look into it myself, but i know because an ex GF blocked my number once after nasty argument.

Later, she told me you arrange it by ringing a certain 12call number. There are charges involved and charges again for unlocking the number apparently.This is obviously a challenge for us, seeing how its in Thai language.

What i do know however, is that 12call have a pretty good website where you can manage all your account stuff and its also in English:

https://12calleservi...D3F!-1281295850

Im sure you could do that and many other stuff on there.

Back to topic, I can also relate to your opinions, nearly mirror image to mine.

What never ceases to amaze is how most guys you meet blurt out their whole life story timeline in 15 minutes, then proceed to tell you all the worn out warnings and cliches of Thailand, what the women do, what you should not to do. bla bla.

The funny thing is they have'nt even stopped to ask anything about you, or how long you've been here so as to gauge whether you may have already heard this drivel a thousand times before.

NO, they assume it is grasshoppers lucky day as he has now been given free advice from the ultra experienced extraordiaire..know all well travelled Guru man of the world.

So yeah, i don't bother much asking or giving numbers, due to most characters being as described above...completely self obsessed.

If you do meet a possible drinking buddy the thing to do these days seems to be exchanging FB, though its a shame its come to that. I guess our lives here can be a little isolated at times and we become accustomed to that freedom.

I have exchanged numbers with lads 3 times in all the years i've spent here and up to this day, 2 of those remain great mates of which we all meet up often while in BK.

A lot of drinking buddies have come and gone,mostly those you would meet on a visa run, or playing pool in a pub somehwere.

It is a sad how we dont stick together more. The Thais do not seem to understand this and think we are weird because of the way we treat our own. If we see a farang walking around the burbs out here my GF constantly asks why i dont go and say hello and i usually try to give multiple reasons each time.

Maybe not usefull for Chaingmai, but a mate of mine from Oz used to cross busy Bangkok streets by simply walking across the road,stooping down a little, and extending his left palm at 90 degrees towards the oncoming traffic.

IMO it was reminiscient of a moove first originted by the "village people" in Y.M.C.A., yet my mate swears his first inspiration came from this fella:...

http://aso.gov.au/ti...e-dundee/clip1/

if your impatient skip to 1:40

BTW any referance to buffaloes is purely coincidental!

Never in my life would i have imagined there was so much internet content on this issue.

Now if only someone could tell me why my Thai GF chastises me for using the spray gun to wash the vegetables

You're a cheapskate and yet you're marrying a Thai woman? Something doesn't add up.

The most astute observation i've seen all night.

I think a name change is in order mate , you definately ain't as baa as your avataa.

Hook line and sinker is all i can say, should do wonders for the shareprice.

Maybe these clever bargirls should be forced to give the future shareholders of FB 100 baht for every 20,000 baht scammed from a farang.

Sounds like a worthwhile investment to me

Oh you beut, I reckon this thread has the potential of being another 30+ pager...

Or maybe a big hairly troll in sheeps clothing, alongside of such classics to the vein of "why do farangs ignore each other?" and "why is it so hard to find farang friends?" (sounds like same same poster with different moniker actually)

Why is it the bulk of the really good threads here revolve around us farangs taking potshots at each other?

Really, a lot of you must have very sad lives here. If its true that the general consensus amongst Thias is that we are a bunch of <deleted>, then who could blame them for coming to such a conclusion.

To the OP: You shouldnt flatter yourself so much, im sure after they get to know the REAL you, they will not hesitate to NOT call you up again.

Also, it should be stated...12call has a simple system whereby you can block another callers number from contacting you..if needs be....could come in handy for all parties

Could always recommend not putting in the MSG, but actually there is no evidence of MSG having a negative impact on the body.

Instead of putting in the palm oil, put in a beer Chang export..... much healthier.

-mel.

This is an intersting call, and i hope for the sake of many you are right about a lack of evidence that MSG is harmful.

I watched families and their kids being fed up with MSG in every meal made for them.

They even added it as a marinade with bean soi to fatty pork which was then deepfried until nearly black.

I also watched on in horror as GFs sister added 2 dessert spoons of the stuff into a batch of Somtum, which was then eaten with the MSG laden meat.

Gf said if they didnt add it it wouldnt be arroy and the kids wouldnt eat it. This same thing hapenned every meal but alas they would not even dare try anything the farang had made because it was obviously "not arroy"

If it is harmless t makes me wonder though, why it is banned in a lot of other countries?

All thiongs considered though, I fear there will be a boom of health issues here in the next 20-30 years because of this need for everything arroy and instant gratification.

One thing i did notice about these people though, they did seem to have very white teeth but large gaps between the teeth. Don't know if thats just a quirk of Asian race or not?

At first thought i wondered whether the arroy diet may be eroding their teeth

Well 3months turned out to be 3 years but they finally made it!. I hear the new floating market will be open in 2 weeks from now.

2 weeks? really?

Can anyone advise how to get to the place where the market will be? either driving or public transport...

A trip by boat sounds good also, and i see they mention a proposed extension of river boat going from the Bang Kapi peir...which i am led to believe is near the mall Bang Kapi??.

I have never been able to find the peir at Bang Kapi..any tips would be greatly appreciated

edit: found my own answer quickly enough..for those that also didnt know..

http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=13.764646,100.643354

hotel staff knows cpr ?

C = Clean Out

P = Pockets

R = Run

I've heard Thais joking about this when they see particulary dark African types. Chocolate being dark is as good a hint as any

Not wanting to be racist myself, but I do believe there is/was a well known product which was marketed with the name of Mr Chocolate, or chocolate man, or something of this like here in Thailand.

It used the logo of a jovial little black fellow dancing around. I don't know if this has had anything to do with it

I havent read the link that Whybother posted as it wont open on my system, but although it might not be the best thing to do, you could always use the 30 days first, travel out of the country on the 29th day and try to use the double entry to get back in, just pleading ignorant.

Failing that, i was at Immigration at Chaengwattana not long ago and noticed a booth specifically for these sorts of mistakes and correction of stamps, so it might be wise to get it sorted this way.

Although there was no-one manning the booth at the time i am sure that the people at reception would point you in the right direction.

good luck with it, i don't think you will have to many worries.

IMO, A good way to counteract boredom is not to think in terms of...err what am i gonna do today..but think along the lines of " i have so many choices of things to do today, how can i choose"

For me this attitude rings true.One thing is for sure, living here allows one to do many things that you wouldnt consider back home due to the extortionate price of things.

As i don't work here, my family and friends back home are always asking "but what do you do all day?"

I find this hard to answer as i really dont go out of my way to think of things to do, yet there is always something.

A few things i can think of at the moment that maybe others havent mentioned:

-Get on a random city bus and see where it goes. Explore the area for interesting stuff and use the same bus to get back home

-Learn a musical instrument. Guitars are cheap and compact and you can learn all you want on the net

-Movies one day a week. Usually the cheap charlie wednesday, at 80 baht you can go back to back movies if you wanted

-Read up on reviews of restaurants and have one day per week seeking out an upmarket meal

-Chinatown and Khaosan

-Day trips of museum, art gallery or temple, although some of these can get tiring after a while

-Explore the river boat system, you might end up at khao san road, which might be a good or bad thing

-Check out the public parks. Stickman reckons its a great day out walking around Lumphini

-2 hour massage. make a point to go to a different area each time

-Gym

-Take a bus trip to the beach now and again or to some area a few hours from your appartment, even staying the night is affordable

-Get off at different BTS stops and walk around the area looking for things of interest

-Take up muay thai..many schools i am told and you can also use this to get an ed visa

-Golf driving range. Can hire clubs and buy buckets of balls,Not expensive like back home

-Visit an orphange and hand out some clothes and chocolate bars (ive only read that but havent got around to it myself)

-If in BK, check for what conventions are on at the big centres (queen sirikit and Meuang Thong Thani. all is online

-Buy a cooker and make your own food. Go to markets and search out ingredients and have a farang cookup or curry..maybe ask a thai around to sample the food (but usually its a tough ask getting thais to even try anything farang!)

Anyway thats just the few i can remember right now, but with all the others so far mentioned..internet, tV, Studying thai language, eating, drinking and chasing skirt and i dont see how anyone can be bored here.

On my walking excursions to different areas i recently found and arts and craft shop with not only guitar accessories but very cheap painting supplies, which is something ive always wanted to take up but probably wont have the time

Maybe I misworded my "rant" a little. I havent a problem with the sinsod issue itself , what i was saying was that no Thai family would/should expect the payment that far in advance of the actual wedding day.

My point being that if a family actually did agree to this idea of payment so far in advance i'd consider them to be up to no good.

Well sorry, I suppose i am being cynical in a way as i could imagine more than a few thai people receiving payment up front and then saying to the daughter "Well, no need to marry this guy now, this was so easy, lets just go and find another one and do it again"

Looking at the level and ignorance and selfishness with which people drive in Thailand I truly wonder if the 'least rude' label really applies.

I don't understand why this always comes up. Try driving in Hong Kong where you hear horns honking at you all day long or other countries where road rage is so out of control you could even get shot for cutting someone off.

Just because the rules are pretty relaxed here doesnt mean the drivers are rude, they just have a their own system and Thais dont seem to have any problem at all with it.

Maybe you think they are rude or impatient for wanting to cross and intersection quickly or not waiting?

But if you should try your western polite mannerisms here and give way to every tom dick and harry you will still be waiting at the intersection come armageddon (im told its not far off!)

Anyway, i am yet to see a Thai driver yelling, screaming and cursing expletives at others when driving, and that includes taxi drivers.

Escuse, but is this a troll?

Why would anyone pay Sinsod way in advance of being married? Especially in Thailand

and having access to pages upon pages of horror stories and rip offs.

I cannot believe anyone would have to ask this, but if you are for real then i would suggest mentioning this to your GF and her family.

Seriously any legit Thai family would not expect this ,suggest it or even allow it. What would be the point, as others have stated it is for show at the wedding, so if you gave it now then you'd only have to fork out another amount to show at the wedding as i will bet my left one that the money you will pay now will not be there later.

Ask your GF and family if they want you to pay this up front, now...if they say yes then start running.

I sometimes find it hard to believe that people get conned so easy but when you read stuff like this it really does make you wonder

..whats that saying about jesus weeping?

...

I very cleverly persuaded Naam to employ a man to ignore farangs on his behalf,

(http://www.thaivisa....25#entry5252184)

so now, whenever Naam sends that fella into Pattaya to ignore farang, he just nips round the back (can I say that on a public forum) and ignores me instead.

Its a win-win situation, for me, at least.

SC

I can see me regretting gloating in public, in the near future. Does Naam have dobermans?

From the look of his avatar Naam is a doberman, albeit a very handsome one who knows everything there is to know about gold and all other essential investments...you have done well to befriend him..one day generosity might strike him and he will buy you that cat to swing around

He'd probably buy the lease on my drainage ditch, though, so when I extended the lean-to to swing the cat he could crank up the rent.

In fact, I'll know who put him up to that, now...

naam and I have a very symbiotic relationship. I take all the rotten apples out of his orchard, a few days before they go bad, so's they don't affect the rest of the crop...

SC

Apples eh? I never would have thought Naam would go for such an investment..i hear they are bulldozing them in Oz as they cant even meet the production costs selling them as juice.

I thought rubber would have been more his style

...

I guess thats why im not married, eh? I consider myself a lucky sod.

Havent met a female yet who's not intersted in money,or would be to lazy to clean out a bank account..

and thats saying nothing of thai women

Best not to say anything, I think. If the money's more important than the lady, maybe you should take that to bed.

Personally, I've always thought of money as a means to an end - a bit like electricity - useful, but not something you want for itself.

I suppose that's why I'm living in a corrugated iron lean-to shack behind Naam's back wall with cardboard boxes for furniture...

http://www.thaivisa....00#entry5015014

SC

EDIT: What a great search function!

good one, but now we know your lieing

Naams gardener would never alow such a thing..and this is why Naam hired a gardener that speaks many different languages..so he can tell vagrants of all nationalities to p7ss off out of it

I very cleverly persuaded Naam to employ a man to ignore farangs on his behalf,

(http://www.thaivisa....25#entry5252184)

so now, whenever Naam sends that fella into Pattaya to ignore farang, he just nips round the back (can I say that on a public forum) and ignores me instead.

Its a win-win situation, for me, at least.

SC

I can see me regretting gloating in public, in the near future. Does Naam have dobermans?

From the look of his avatar Naam is a doberman, albeit a very handsome one who knows everything there is to know about gold and all other essential investments...you have done well to befriend him..one day generosity might strike him and he will buy you that cat to swing around