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3 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:
Actually we do not seem to have a clear set of rules - and Banks have no clarification - suspect most do not have a clue what is required to be written; much less what the signer will require to do so.
1. Account - can it be joint with Thai wife?
2. Transfer - what proof of origin required?
3. Can supporting documents be presented to immigration if appears a local transfer to bank?
4. Time of transfer - required same time each month as recent report?
5. Time of letter from bank? Appears year report must be obtained from Hqs so another letter of account ownership also required same day?
Am sure many other questions remained unanswered or appear to have various answers.
All of those are concerns too if applicable to the applicant.
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1 hour ago, Thailand said:
Bangkok Bank have given me copies of credit notes for a pension credit and an income credit. Each of them shows amounts and source of funds being overseas and specific senders including UK gov pension as the sender on one credit note.And then the amount actually deposited to my bank book after intermediary bank charges.
However, because they are showing as Bahtnet in my bank book as they enter via intermediary banks Bangkok Bank say they will not provide a letter saying the pension/ income are transfers from overseas.
Despite the credit notes showing source and final destination funds Bangkok Bank say I have to contact the intermediary banks to get them to provide letters of confirmation the funds are from overseas!
Crazy.
Which again should bring it home to the TI fanboys on here, it isn't that people can't afford to abide by the new rules, it's more due the fact that they're finding it difficult to prove their earnings to TI's satisfaction. I myself only have international transfer proof from January. Previously my transfers came via another bank and were recorded as domestic transfers. Therefore, until I see examples of Jomtien's reaction to "leniency" I'm planning to go the lump sum marriage extension route for the first time in 12 years.
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1 hour ago, Bluetongue said:
Exactly, the Australian Embassy staff that count, ie ones you never see, faceless men and women and their bosses in Canberra could not give a rats bottom about expats. They are concerned, in order, about their climb up the greasy pole, their numerous perks and allowances for being here, the price of real estate in Canberra or wherever they have their negatively geared rental property, whether to go to the gym on work time as part of their work life balance performance agreement, what restaurant to go to for lunch, at what time they can knock off (here about 3pm should cover it Canberra has gone home by then) and thats it.
Being an ex member of the Brit foreign service, I can vouch that your lot sound just like our lot. You don't get any browny points for helping expats, that's a fact.
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5 hours ago, jacko45k said:
It would appear to be an Embassy decision that likely was prompted by immigration asking them to truly verify the 'income' their letters were attesting to.
The Embassies decided this was beyond their capabilities and withdrew the service.
I'd be willing to bet my entire estate that all the embassies still issuing letters don't do a full check.
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2 hours ago, Tomahawk21 said:not meaning to have a pop at anyone but i do thing its pretty sad when people who have worked 40 or 50 years and they cant get a million baht together for a retirement visa.
"not meaning to have a pop at anyone....."
Yes you are by going on to say:
"but i do thing its pretty sad when people who have worked 40 or 50 years and they cant get a million baht together for a retirement visa."
That's a fairly smug reply which doesn't take into account people's preferences and circumstances.
I don't know about anyone else, but I could put several million baht in a bank here, but I prefer not to. While I can legally stay here using other options, that's what I'll do. The problem for most is that the current rules are pretty ambiguous, especially those regarding income with no embassy letter and the combination method. Also "leniency" seems to have a different meaning at each office. That's what we're doing on here, trying to get to the bottom of what each office wants, not whinging about not having sufficient capital. Read the posts.
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5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:
Showing 800k or 400k baht in the bank is not needed if you can show 65k baht being transferred from abroad for a few months this year.
You can use the 65k baht income option to apply for an extension of stay based upon retirement. Just show a bank statement from the bank showing the 65k baht coming in and a letter from the bank to validate your account.
Thanks. Reason I asked was because I'm a bit concerned that Jomtien TI won't know what "leniency" means and demand 12 month's statements. I guess the proof of the pudding will be when someone presents them with five or six month's statements and reports the result on here. If all else fails, I'll just go the married extension route.
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For the attention of Ubon Joe.
I had an existing sum of money in my BOA Mee Tae Dai account. I've been sending just over 65,000 baht monthly since January using Transferwise to my BBL account which shows up as International Payments. I've been transferring most of this to my BOA account and now it is topped up to about 410,000 baht, which I can use for the marriage visa lump sum if necessary. However, I'm not too keen on going down that route after 12 years of retirement extensions.
I assume that if I carry on transferring a monthly amount from abroad until I reach an income total of 400,000 then I can use the retirement extension combination method, for which I'd need bank letters from both banks, the BBL one to include an income statement.
Grateful if you would answer a few questions before continuing with my contingency plans concerning the combination method. With regard to the new rules:
Do I have to season the lump sum, before and after the date of extension?
Does a portion of it need to lay untouched for 12 months as per the retirement extn?
Is it ok to spend the international transfers to BBL right away as living expenses?
Disregarding the "leniency" instructions, would the income part of it still have to consist of 12 months of international transfers, or less providing the lump and income total exceeds 800,000?My embassy has stopped issuing the income letter and my immigration office is Jomtien.
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16 hours ago, scotinsiam said:Honestly I'm not sure if it's required but I copied it anyway to cover my butt and they kept it.
It used to be required for the 90 day report only, but in recent years they've been demanding it for the 12 month extension too. I've been giving them a copy of the wife's house book and ID card. I always take everything but the kitchen sink, but in a seperate envelope, just in case. I never present anything that's not on the list, or isn't asked for.
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Being that we all come from and return to stardust, then I assume that god must be the universe. So many incredible things happen in the universe that I could be persuaded that it's an intelligent entity. I don't believe were meant to worship it; appreciate and wonder at it, yes. Seems to make more sense than a supernatural being in heaven. I suppose I must be a deist.
By the way, has anyone studied the hologramatic universe principle? Saw a documentary on it the other night and it was mind blowing.
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10 hours ago, Jingthing said:
Jomtien is very efficient if your paperwork is in order. But last I heard they are not accepting combo method retirement applications so that would mean a very very bad day for someone trying that.
If you have a different recent experience there starting in March please report.
Details such as embassy letter or not
If no letter showing how many months back in deposit
Rules for calculation
Rules for pre seasoning or post seasoning
Or
News of continuing rejection of combo applications
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I'd also like to know of any examples of leniency on the monthly income and combination method shown at Jomtien ie how many months International Transfers they're willing to accept. Also, are they putting any conditions on the lump sum part of the combination method?
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12 hours ago, BestB said:Who said Chinese go to immigration ? And if they did, it would be their guide not them in person
This forum is a much better place for me since I started to use the "ignore" facility. I figure I'm never going to get helpful advice from these characters anyway, their only purpose in life is to wind people up.
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21 hours ago, fishtank said:
I cannot see anyone disagreeing with that .
Oh there will be! I could name at least twelve members of the Sunn Specs Club who'll be getting their nickers in a twist right about now over this post.
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18 minutes ago, Nielsk said:"I suspect that it won't be long before Immigration clues in to what is really happening and changes the rules (again) to get rid of the "65k" scammers the same way they've been trying to get rid of the "800k" and "income letter" scammers." Nothing to do with 65k scammers. Can You explain where You see the wrong doing in my question and the answers ??
I suspect that there are very few "scammers", but some of our supposed fellow farang on here think that just because people have some difficulty in proving their income to TI that they must be "scammers". I personally don't know of one farange who's scamming the system, although could imagine thousands if I was that way inclined.
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9 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:lawmaker Graham Brady will tell her the rules will be changed unless she quits
So the same people who deny the electorate a vote because some imaginary rule says they can only vote once now want to change rules to get rid of their PM because they didn’t get it right in the first vote? Where are the Brexiteers crying foul?
But good to see the Tories further dismantling themselves. Can’t wait to see Jacob and his bully boys hiding again should the PM job become available. It will be one of the fools and fools like Davis or Raab taking on the job, making bold statements before going to Brussels just to come back empty handed like Theresa. At the end of the day, no PM wants to be responsible for a no-deal Brexit so whoever takes on the job will always be in the very same situation as Theresa May is in. The smarter Brexiteers of course know that.
Here we go, another one who wants to have reruns of general elections when, in his opinion, the correct result doesn't happen. How about replayed cup finals, F1 grand Prix, talent shows etc? A democratic vote has to be the final vote, because if not, it can just go on and on ad infinitum. Do you honestly think that if there was a rerun and the result was reversed that the leave voters would settle for that? There'd have to be a third vote and so on. The right thing for you remainers to do now is to accept you've been democratically defeated and get behind the majority who voted to leave.
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9 hours ago, pegman said:She should do as Cameron did and resign. It's an impossible situation, trying to save a country from itself, when it's hell bent on committing suicide. Let a real Brexiteer take the UK the rest of the way to ruin.
I was looking for IMHO in your post, but failed to see it. It's astonishing how many people think that they're right and the 17.4 million who voted for Brexit are wrong. If the Tories had just acted on the wishes of that majority and left, we wouldn't be where we are today. Deals could've been negotiated after leaving. We're where we are because of remainer meddling and deep down everyone in the country must realise that. By the way, TM is the remainer in chief.
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8 hours ago, simple1 said:
For the moment it has not been confirmed which group carried out the terrible murders in Sri Lanka which also killed numerous children and will have caused life changing injuries for many. Social Media in Sri Lanka has been temporally closed down due to concern of rumour mongering with ramifications for civil disorder. Your post is an excellent example of why the decision was made by Sri Lankan authorities, let alone the awful sympathetic comment for a mass murderer above.
Once it is confirmed a particular group is responsible for this evil incident, focus on them.
I'm 100% sure which group's responsible for this and I'm not even clairvoyant. The bombing of Christian churches kind of provided a small clue.
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18 hours ago, thequietman said:Interesting!
Perhaps some back tracking OR as you say, trying to do it next year following what she said, could be problematic.
There are no consistent carved in stone rules, so everyone has to stay on tender hooks. It must be frustrating for those on the income method. ????
This is what I find frustrating reading the posts from the rosey specs brigade on here wobbling on about expats struggling to meet the financial demands of the new system. In most cases people are ok with the financial side of things, it's the uncertainty when we present ourselves at immigration, whether or not our proof is going to be accepted or not. If not, by then in many cases it'll be too late to put things right.
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In other words the system was working as it was supposed to be. Shows the state of the place when people get excited when they get a bit of civilised service in their IO. By the way, Pattaya immigration has been like that for years and for the 90 day report, you only need to take your passport with barcoded slip inside. No TM47.
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Just now, Just1Voice said:I don't mean to sound obnoxious, but the bottom line is: It's their country, it's their rules. You either comply, or you leave. Nothing hard about that.
You must have a degree in stating the obvious. We all realise this and that's the reason we're attempting to comply rather than leave, especially those of us married with family here. We can all afford to abide by the new rules but it's difficult sometimes trying to comply with them and supply the proof that TI are demanding. These new rules have been badly thought out and I think that most on here will agree with that. I'll say again, it does NOT serve us right!
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Because there's no way I can spend 65000 a month and the beggering about trying to prove I've had this much coming in from abroad every month for twelve months, I'm going for the 400,000 in the bank marriage visa next time. This after 12 years of monthly income retirement visas using the Brit Embassy letter. Next year, because I can be almost sure of getting 12 monthly transfers of 40,000 from abroad into Bangkok Bank, I may do the monthly income marriage visa.
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1 hour ago, Just1Voice said:What's the hassle? 10years ago my first visa was marriage. A total pain in the neck. But when I went to renew it, the IO female told me that with my income, the Retirement Visa would be easier & faster. Sent me and wife to a different desk, and 5-6 minutes later, we were out of there. So my last 9 extensions have been Retirement. When they "changed the rules" which, in reality they didn't "change", but merely "enforced" existing rules, I went to Imm in Chiang Mai, found out what was needed for income verification, went to the bank, had all the forms within half an hour. Back to Imm the next morning, and less than an hour later was out of there with my new extension.
I have 2 "acquaintances", screaming to high Heaven 0ver the "new rules", saying they will force them to leave Thailand. As it turns out, neither of them actually have the MINIMUM monthly financial requirements, but have been using "Income Verification" letters from the Consulate for years, which said they did, which I suspect is the case with many others.
I refer to the Thai phrase, "Som nom nah".
Aren't you a good boy! Amazing how you find the new rules to be no problem, yet hundreds of us on here find it to be a clusterfork. No mention from you of the combination method, the so-called leniancy to be shown to those with less than 12 months transfers from abroad, those who don't get pension monthly etc etc etc. But you're alright jack so it "serves us right". With fellow farang like you, who needs xenophobic immigration personnel?
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You're kidding! Here in the Ban Amphur area where I live it's their big day today, all the way along to Sattahip I believe. Pattaya and surrounding areas Songkran begins on about the 11th and continues to, and including, the 20th. Ten days of fun ???? Normally I don't venture outside my garden gate, but yesterday the aircon unit in the car packed up and my missus dragged me out to get it fixed. Three hours, 7,500 baht and a drenching later, it was repaired. Even if they offer me a million baht, apart from watering my garden, I am not setting foot outside my house today.
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The posts that I see from people who've decided to leave aren't because they're "on the poverty line", but because they're cheesed off with being jerked around and having an uncertain future here because of the constant changes.
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20 hours ago, WalkingOrders said:
Yes, central bangkok, but even prior, no immigration office employee has ever asked me for a tip, nor have I ever believed they would want one. I find immigration officers to be a polite bunch, considering the amount of work they do in that office. I have never incountered someone problematic at all.
For "tips" read "bribes". I think that's what the no tips notices were about.
BK Bank example of Monthly Income for Retirement Extension
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
Posted
My December TW transfer was sent via TMB, the last four have been sent direct to BBL so maybe TW have sorted it out. It pays to keep a close eye on statements.