bravingbangkok

Well that is your belief and you have every right to it of course, at least this whole page has make the point in which I was trying to make.

"Most religions believe they are the correct religion" and not just Muslims as the a previous poster seems to think.

What so just because you like Ketchup does it mean you like tomatoes ?

I am sorry if you think me making that statement makes me antisemitic but I feel it is true, I also feel that if they worked for it then what is the problem and why should they not be in control ??????

I never actually made a reference to my feeling about them being in control only stated that they were.

Okay fine you didn't but it is still not an antisemitic comment to make, how can it be ?

"Most religions believe they are the correct religion"

Thank you very much that is the point I have been trying to make, forgive me for calling a tosser but I do no take kindly to being called antisemitic when I am clearly not and no comment I have made is.

I am anti all this religious crap, it has brought this world nothing but trouble. The Jews have taken far worse than they have given !

They do not want to take over the world because they already own the world, do you not believe for 1 minute that Jews are not in control of the worlds finances and banks ?

That is a form of world domination and not only are they in control but they also believe they have the right to be and that they are the chosen people.

Do not get me wrong I am by no means a supporter of what you have quoted about Muslims but I am also not in support of the current world domination which falls into the hands of the Jews and Christians.

No, I do not believe for one minute that Jews are in control of the world's finances and banks. Also not, BTW, that Jews are found among many nationalities, just like all other religions. Reading these same old same old antisemitic lies makes me sick that in this modern age so many ignorant people still believe it.

What a complete tosser you are to call someone antisemitic because they think that Jews are in control of the world finances !

So why has he only targeted 3 wars ? just to make his argument look better ? "Okay so to make me look right I shall concentrate on the last 80 years and forget the other 1000 or so"...............................??????? hel_l of a way to prove a point.

At the risk of speaking for him, he posted that "not all wars" were caused by religion, as you had asserted. Then he picked a few low-hanging fruit with which to refute the "all" in your assertion. I am sure, if he wanted to, he could have gone and posted a list of wars over the last 2000 years which were not religiously motivated, but quite frankly, all he needed to do was list one to prove his contention.

(Garro, I don't mean to speak for you or your thoughts. I am just taking a possible stab at them to respond to bravingbangkok.)

Feel free bonobo

I don't believe that it would be possible for me to present my thoughts in a suitable format for bravingbangkok.

Sometimes all I can do is read and scratch my head.

You have nothing else to say because you cannot say anything else. Do not try and make it out like it is impossible to debate me just because you are wrong.

So why has he only targeted 3 wars ? just to make his argument look better ? "Okay so to make me look right I shall concentrate on the last 80 years and forget the other 1000 or so"...............................??????? hel_l of a way to prove a point.

At the risk of speaking for him, he posted that "not all wars" were caused by religion, as you had asserted. Then he picked a few low-hanging fruit with which to refute the "all" in your assertion. I am sure, if he wanted to, he could have gone and posted a list of wars over the last 2000 years which were not religiously motivated, but quite frankly, all he needed to do was list one to prove his contention.

(Garro, I don't mean to speak for you or your thoughts. I am just taking a possible stab at them to respond to bravingbangkok.)

Low hanging.....Lebanese civil war ????? you could have picked that one, the Balkans ??????? could have picked that one. He didn't because he wanted ot prove his point which is anyway wrong because to claim that WW2 had nothing to do with relgion is just silly.

millions of people were killed for being a certain religion !

It is not a question of whether you have met them or not but rather a question of why are they there and why are there Muslims who think the way that you have just described.

It is all about God and fear of his wrath when you die hahaha what a load of shi5t, one day someone is going to come from a galaxy far away and probably be far more advanced than we are then here of this God and stain his apnts with laughter.

The only reason religion was created was to create order and fear, they made this God up because the one way in which they could be proved wrong is by someone coming back from the dead and saying yep guys they were right there is a God just had tea with him, thoroughly nice bloke. That just isn't going to happen is it ?

Well, you just implied that there are as many Christians and Jews wishing to control and take over the world. I admit that I am not as aware of this. So I would now like you to tell me where and give me some information. So, it is a question of if you have met them or if you can validate your statement. We know there are Muslims, Jews and Christians because of religion. We don't need to be told that.

You need to review your posts. You're coming across as some sort of lunatic.

They do not want to take over the world because they already own the world, do you not believe for 1 minute that Jews are not in control of the worlds finances and banks ?

That is a form of world domination and not only are they in control but they also believe they have the right to be and that they are the chosen people.

Do not get me wrong I am by no means a supporter of what you have quoted about Muslims but I am also not in support of the current world domination which falls into the hands of the Jews and Christians.

Look there are so many connections with Judaism and communism, Stalin was a communist right ?

Just read around and you will see that communism has a connection with religion and that the Catholic church did nothing to stop the extermination of the Jews.

Religion is always involved in everything. The EU is just the new Roman Catholic empire.

So why has he only targeted 3 wars ? just to make his argument look better ? "Okay so to make me look right I shall concentrate on the last 80 years and forget the other 1000 or so"...............................??????? hel_l of a way to prove a point.

It is not a question of whether you have met them or not but rather a question of why are they there and why are there Muslims who think the way that you have just described.

It is all about God and fear of his wrath when you die hahaha what a load of shi5t, one day someone is going to come from a galaxy far away and probably be far more advanced than we are then here of this God and stain his apnts with laughter.

The only reason religion was created was to create order and fear, they made this God up because the one way in which they could be proved wrong is by someone coming back from the dead and saying yep guys they were right there is a God just had tea with him, thoroughly nice bloke. That just isn't going to happen is it ?

Well, you just implied that there are as many Christians and Jews wishing to control and take over the world. I admit that I am not as aware of this. So I would now like you to tell me where and give me some information. So, it is a question of if you have met them or if you can validate your statement. We know there are Muslims, Jews and Christians because of religion. We don't need to be told that.

You need to review your posts. You're coming across as some sort of lunatic.

Well you are coming across as someone who has met every single Muslim there is in the world, so you have been around Muslims, where and in which country ?

Why would I personally know fundamentalists ? I ask you the question do you think that their are no Christians or Jews who have the same morals and feelings as the Muslims you described ?

In no way am I a lunatic and please tell me which part of any post I have made is crazy ?

The silly argument that all wars were started by religion is just absurd. Hitler, Pol-Pot, Stalin, et al were not famous for their religious activities.

Look the very fact that you made the communism speech and did not even know Karl Marx was born a Jew just tells me their is no point in talking to someone who claims to know so much but actually only knows the covers of books and not that actual content.

Am I missing something here? Where did garro post that Karl marx was not Jewish? And what does his being Jewish have anything to do with Stalin and war?

Hitler was Christian. Pol-pot an atheist (although born a Buddhist and having studied at both Theravadan Buddhist and Roman Catholic schools). Does that make their atrocities religious atrocities?

I never said it did, did I ? please feel free to quote me where I said that.

Who knows, Hitler may have been a stooge for the Catholic church ! The Catholics have always had a problem with Jews.

Also the very fact that he is basing my comment on the past 80 years is just ridiculous, if he thinks religious rivalry started in the 1900's then he needs to read a few more books.

It is not a question of whether you have met them or not but rather a question of why are they there and why are there Muslims who think the way that you have just described.

It is all about God and fear of his wrath when you die hahaha what a load of shi5t, one day someone is going to come from a galaxy far away and probably be far more advanced than we are then here of this God and stain his apnts with laughter.

The only reason religion was created was to create order and fear, they made this God up because the one way in which they could be proved wrong is by someone coming back from the dead and saying yep guys they were right there is a God just had tea with him, thoroughly nice bloke. That just isn't going to happen is it ?

I work with Muslims and their opinion has always been that the election of Obama is just another sign that Islam is the one true religion and this is another step towards its world domination. To them Obama is as good as being a muslim, and that in time he will turn back completely to Islam, and then of course influence the US towards Islam. I think this is nonsense, but now they will I am sure see this speech as another indication that they are right.

And there are no Christians or Jews who think the same, that they are the dominant race and must command over one and all ?

"A childish idea"

meaning one who is childish.....hmmm so you never called me childish ???

Look the very fact that you made the communism speech and did not even know Karl Marx was born a Jew just tells me their is no point in talking to someone who claims to know so much but actually only knows the covers of books and not that actual content.

Karl Marx was born a Jew lol you really are clueless. I would never stoop to call you childish because what does childish mean ? acting immature which I think we have both not done on this thread but you choice to exploit the term incorrectly for your own satisfaction.

This is akin to saying; that if everyone believe the same thing as I did then we would all live in peace. A childish idea, and the sort of world that would not appeal to me in the least.

How is it a childish idea ? do you really think their is a God ?

Adding to that, how many lives have been lost over the years in the name of religion ? So it is not childish to fight over something you have no real proof of is it ?

What I believe in is not the issue. The fact is that a lot of people in the world believe in God or gods and we can neither prove or disprove its/ their existence. We all have our own beliefs.

The silly argument that all wars were started by religion is just absurd. Hitler, Pol-Pot, Stalin, et al were not famous for their religious activities.

Seriously get some education, if you think there is no history between Judaism, Stalin and Communism then...well I just don't know. The world did not start at 1900 you know ?

The crusades spring to mind.

You are a real fu7ck wit for blindly calling something childish !

I believe in Jesus, I believe in Muhammad and I believe in Buddha and all the other saints in every religion, I just do not think they received the words they spoke from God but rather thought up their social teachings by themselves. It was institutions that turned these teachings into religion to command some sort of power, legal structure and fear over the general population.

Any of that childish for you, you silly little pri7ck !

I think what we all need to do first of all is accept that there is no God. That would be a good start !

This is akin to saying; that if everyone believe the same thing as I did then we would all live in peace. A childish idea, and the sort of world that would not appeal to me in the least.

How is it a childish idea ? do you really think their is a God ?

Adding to that, how many lives have been lost over the years in the name of religion ? So it is not childish to fight over something you have no real proof of is it ?

I think what we all need to do first of all is accept that there is no God. That would be a good start !

This is akin to saying; that if everyone believe the same thing as I did then we would all live in peace. A childish idea, and the sort of world that would not appeal to me in the least.

How is it a childish idea ? do you really think there is a God ?

I think what we all need to do first of all is accept that there is no God. That would be a good start !

Being a wannabe HiSo and associating with genuine HiSo people has to be frustrating and must be a miserable existence trying to afford it. I no longer own a suit and if wearing fancy clothes is a requirement for going somewhere, you can be VERY sure that I wouldn't go.

At the age of mid 20's I have lost all interest in clothes, such a waste of money.

30g for one person that is piss. Try it with two kids, health insurance, life insurance, 3 nagging girls (wife and two daughters) and school fees. I am still wearing the same clothes as last year.

I do not know if anyone else is the same but my electricity bill is a joke, the aircons and TV's cost so much, my electric bill is around 9000 a month ! however this is decreased dramatically during the winter months.

Wow, are you serious? We're planning to have kids, but doing some financial math, we come close to what 'Churchill' said in a previous post that 100k is closer to the mark. We were looking at 80k, if you include cost for better-than-standard schools for 2 kids. You got my respect. How you manage? any tips?

Simon I meant that 30g for 1 person easy, but for me with my 3 other members of my club it is a hel_l of a lot more.

80k should be fine, I think the most important aspect is the rent because food bills, electric bills and luxuries can all be saved on but the rent cannot and who wants to live in a hel_l hole and work hard for it....thats just is not living. If you own your own place or have a mortgage then you are doing well. At 80k a month I would plan to have 1 kid for now and then see where you are in a few years.

Good international schools can run anywhere from 100 000 a year - 400 000 a year so it is entirely up to you. A good Thai school can be anywhere from 50 000 - 150 000 a year but do not quote me on that as I have no really looked into higher tier Thai education.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Just had a rethink, this one is very strange because when you think about one theory there is always something to go against it. All the evidence points to a sudden break up of the plane but then how did these passengers have time to text anyone ?

just remodeled gf house. gf wants our repairman(her cousin) to have his own room. i say he can live elsewhere as we dont need him anymore. she say cannot, he family. but now i notice 3 kids resemble him a lot,which got me thinking-is it possible he is gf husband. one only reads these things in forums, not actually thinking they are real. am i out the money or can a lawyer help me.

What so this cousin has three kids right ?

And

The wife wants him and the 3 kids to stay ?

I would be concerned, very concerned.