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Fancy that, two criminals arrested in Pattaya. Whatever next?

Just unbelievable!!!!

No other city in Thailand EVER had any criminals or alleged criminal arrested.

And Pattaya is so bad, that every weekend 1/3 of Bangkok just can not help but to come down and block all the streets for the entire weekend.

Just unbelievable!!!!

I'd leave them in Thai jail for a while ...

The men were detained in the town of Pattaya, one of the most popular tourist centres in Thailand. They have apparently been living there since they disappeared from the Czech Republic, APA writes. A pregnant girl-friend of one of the thieves helped the authorities trace the wanted men, Austrian press reports. The men, Josef Blazek and Rudolf Tesarek, were sentenced to ten years in prison for the theft in the Czech Republic previously.

Sorry, but they must have been really weird to live their lives in Pattaya, not to mention the pregnant girl-friend helping the authorities to find them.

But for what reason would a pregnant girl-friend help them? Looks like she's got her cash somewhere............:jap:

House/condo or any other real estate investments are in her name, car/s is in her name, most likely bank account/s is also in her name.

Where is the money people ask? all in her name

I recently spent two weeks in increasingly expensive Bangkok. During that time, I took a sabbatical from Thai Visa. I think I will take another sabbatical. While I am grateful to the few from whom I have learned so much, I wish to prevent the poisonous thoughts of the many from polluting my brain.

There are many here amongst us who like being Bwana, willing, happy, and proud to be carried about on a litter by the natives in the scorching heat. Your payback is coming, though, Bwana, as payback inevitably comes. Unfortunately, it will affect all of us, even the few from whom I have learned so much.

Thank you for your gifts, Bwana. To the natives, you have given your superior, condescending attitude, your satang, and your trinkets. And to me, your countryman, you have ensured that we will share the same fate on Payback Day.

I can already hear your protestations: "But I'm Bwana. You can't do this to me. I have money..."

HUH?

here is one of those 7000 civilians,

Israeli Soldiers kill Palestinian mother,

Should i post countless video clips of suicide bombing in Israel and perhaps the latest cold blooded murder of the entire family?

Again, when no rockets are fired, No retaliation is needed. it is really as simple as that!

PS. We have already seen how Palestinians make up the story lines. You can see it on another thread, so i do not need to repost.

Another very important point. How many out of 7000 were military combatans?

Since Palestine has no official army, rockets are fired by someone and someone does fire guns, those surely conveniently included in the report yet they are not civilians

Great, they can not even demonstrate peacefully!

Some of you miss the point its, 7000 dead Palestinian, most of them civilians, rockets (they don't have artillery) fired at Israel are simple part of the ongoing war.

Some argue that there is not intention to kill the civilians and as long they were killed unintentional is there no problem that they are dead.

Solution is very simple, i would even say the simplest solution to a problem in the world.

Stop firing rockets=Israel does not need to retaliate= no intentional or unintentional civilians killed

The point that some have missed is that, it is Palestine, Hamas specifically who keeps the "war" going, which results in deaths. Mind you vast majority of the deaths are due to civilians being used as human shields as pointed out by Uly.

So, for as long its "part of ongoing war" civilians will die. But if Hamas has no interest in having a peace, than what is the point of releasing this reports?!

Still missing in the report the number of victims and scale of damages caused by this rockets.

This report would be released by Israel not Palestine., besides the scale of damage is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the the rockets were fired with only 1 intention and that is to kill civilians and only civilians, as all targets of the rockets were at civilian territory, certainly not military installations.

The OP, the news by brought to us by BNO NEWS refers the a report released by the Palestinian authorities AND information from the Israeli side, quotes the IDF spokesperson Brig. Gen. Yoav Mordechai Avi Benayahu and other Israeli sources.

Guess why i pointed out that the corrected version is now more balanced?

Try to re-read the paragraph that mentions the number of rockets. To assist you i highlighted some key words.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

Btw. How you know with what intentions the rockets were fired?

You right, they were possibly trying to launch the satellite but the aim is slightly off.

here is the previous version: http://www.thaivisa....in-last-decade/

The corrected version is now more balanced, because it mentions also IDF statements and of course the number of rockets fired by Gaza militants.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

Still missing in the report the number of victims and scale of damages caused by this rockets.

This report would be released by Israel not Palestine., besides the scale of damage is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the the rockets were fired with only 1 intention and that is to kill civilians and only civilians, as all targets of the rockets were at civilian territory, certainly not military installations.

if they going to release or correct this kind of report, can they NOT get the numbers right?They do not know how many have been arrested, its a round figure and do not know how many children again just "thousands", around 6000 still in jail, and yet the know the exact amount of female prisoners and children, so what happened to "thousands"?.

"The report also said that from 1967 until today, Israeli forces arrested around 750,000 Palestinians including nearly 12,000 females and "thousands of children. Currently, there are around six thousand Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 37 female prisoners and 245 children, it claimed."

I'm asking nicely (once) not to post in crazy fonts and colours.

My apology, just copy and pasted it .did not even realize the font issue

How Strong Is the Arab Claim to Palestine?

http://archive.front...aspx?ARTID=5835

There is a myth hanging over all discussion of the Palestinian problem: the myth that this land was "Arab" land taken from its native inhabitants by invading Jews. Whatever may be the correct solution to the problems of the Middle East, let's get a few things straight:

§ As a strictly legal matter, the Jews didn't take Palestine from the Arabs; they took it from the British, who exercised sovereign authority in Palestine under a League of Nations mandate for thirty years prior to Israel's declaration of independence in 1948. And the British don't want it back.

§ If you consider the British illegitimate usurpers, fine. In that case, this territory is not Arab land but Turkish land, a province of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until the British wrested it from them during the Great War in 1917. And the Turks don't want it back.

§ If you look back earlier in history than the Ottoman Turks, who took over Palestine over in 1517, you find it under the sovereignty of the yet another empire not indigenous to Palestine: the Mamluks, who were Turkish and Circassian slave-soldiers headquartered in Egypt. And the Mamluks don't even exist any more, so they can't want it back.

Well, someone who claims that Tehran keeps silent about this should follow the news in Iran to make such a statement.

I would of thought someone mentioning Iranian news would actually have something new or of value to add

Who Is Really Oppressing the Palestinians?

http://archive.front...aspx?ARTID=5835

The exploitation of Palestinian Arabs began more than 170 years ago, when Israel was still an impossible dream, and intifadas and suicide bombers were unimaginable.

Please do tell us what happened

Published 02:04 12.05.11

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work

While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us.

By Gideon Levy

It happened on the day after Independence Day, when Israel was immersed in praise of itself and its democracy almost ad nauseam, and on the eve of (virtually outlawed ) Nakba Day, when the Palestinian people mark the "catastrophe" - the anniversary of the creation of Israel. My colleague Akiva Eldar published what we have always known but for which we lacked the shocking figures he revealed: By the time of the Oslo Accords, Israel had revoked the residency of 140,000 Palestinians from the West Bank. In other words, 14 percent of West Bank residents who dared to go abroad had their right to return to Israel and live here denied forever. In other words, they were expelled from their land and their homes. In other words: ethnic cleansing.

...

http://www.haaretz.c...t-work-1.361196

Here CDNVIC, now its accredited.

ISRAEL'S HISTORY AND RIGHT TO EXIST

http://www.discovert...egory.asp?id=38

The State of Israel was created in a peaceful and legal process by the United Nations. It was not created out of Palestinian lands, but rather out of the Ottoman Empire, which had been ruled for 400 years by the Turks who lost it when they, fighting alongside Germany, were defeated in World War I. There were no "Palestinian" lands at the time because there were no people claiming to be Palestinians, but rather simply Arabs who lived in the region of Palestine.

In 1947, a UN partition plan mandated the creation of two states on the remaining 20 percent of the Palestine Mandate: the State of Israel for the Jews, and another state for the stateless Arabs. But the rulers of eight Arab states did not want a non-Arab state anywhere in the Middle East. Thus they rejected the UN arrangement and simultaneously launched a three-front war of annihilation against the newly created state of Israel -- on the very day of its creation in 1948.

A state of war in the Middle East has continued uninterruptedly ever since, because most of the Arab states have refused to sign a peace treaty with Israel, and have refused to recognize the legitimacy of the Jewish state.

Had there been no invasion of Israel by Arab armies whose intent was overtly genocidal, there would have been a state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza since 1948.

In 1993 the Oslo peace process was initiated, based on the pledge that both parties would renounce violence as a means of settling their disputes. But the Palestinians never followed through on this pledge. During the so-called "peace process" -- between 1993 and 1999 -- they perpetrated more than 4,000 terrorist attacks that resulted in the deaths of more than 1,000 Israelis. During this same period, Israel gave the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza a self-governing authority, a 40,000-man armed "police force," and 95 percent of the territory their negotiators demanded.

But of course Israel's efforts to achieve peace were in vain and rockets, murders simply continue.

No. its only you who brought the Jews to the thread.

correct

Well ain't that one useful post?!

Are you?

I am somewhat surprised at Iran being silent over the matter.

With all the noise Iran made in Bahrain, one would think they would say something about Syria and yet total silence, unless of course i missed it

Good question. I have read that Saudi Arabia are bankrolling resistance to Assad, I wouldn't be surprised if Iranian silence means they are actually doing something pretty naughty themselves, for instance revolutionary guards getting directly involved in shooting civilians.

Are you following the Iranian news?

Perhaps you could give an example of a country that is sharing the land, but not to go off topic, country in the middle east will be great!

Maybe you need to read the OP before commenting.

Hamas refuses to recognize Israel

Yes. I read the OP.

Its because the Supremacists don't want share the land but keep it for the chosen ones only. Time to recognize that.

Exactly!!!

I'm glad I'm not the only one here who sees that. Fight the power I say!

Antisemitism and cold blooded slaughter of men, women and children are very different things.

I am sure even pre school kids understand that.

One mustnot forget that at that time many governments had approved of the killings of communists,gypsies and Jews so the ordinary citizen at time thought it was ok and legal.

The demonization of these groups was like the demonization today of Muslims and Arabs. Many today think it's ok and legal to kill them despite the information and knowledge available so how would they know at that time?

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Your statement is reprehensible and is a denial of the facts. I suggest you watch the proceedings of the Nuremburg trials. There is no comparison. The convicted killer in this case lied from the day he entered the USA under false pretenses. You have a convenient memory in that you disregard the fact that the defense had claimed that the convicted killer had never been a concentration camp guard. By the time of the German trial, the evidence was so obvious, the defense became one of his being forced into being a camp guard.

There were plenty of Europeans who did not participate in the killings. Despite Poland's past, many poles did something. Even in Germany there were people that resisted. Your inappropriate comments denigrate and defile the lives of those that resisted.

Don't use ThaiVisa as a tool to further your personal agenda. Thank you.

Yeah, antisemitism never exists in Europe and North America. Jewish refugees and the refuse to give asylum for them never happened.

Despite Poland's past, many poles did something. - Despite Poland's past(whatever that means), over 3 million non-jewish polish civilians died in WWII.

Meanwhile in Canada:

http://faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.belanger/quebechistory/readings/CanadaandJewishRefugeesinthe1930s.html

EnSvenskTiger is right. We have to remember this and make sure that it never happen again. No matter what ethnic/cultural/religious group is targeted by the haters.

Genocide denials is one of the worst thing people who want re-write history do.

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

As oppose to denying or supporting those who deny the holocaust.

And we are back to square 1, circles in circles we go again.

They are not treated in any special bad way, if anything better then 50% of other thai business.

The sooner you realize that the better it would be!

KFC is a global franchise and all are supposed to be treated equally, according to the law of the land. You alluded to that earlier.

KFC Thailand staff are not treated the same as KFC in other countries. I have pointed that out ie: KFC in oz pays over minimum wage, KFC Thailand does not. Therefore, employees in KFC Thailand do not receive the same consideration, bonuses, benefits.

The sooner you realise this has nothing to do with what other employees in Thailand receive the better it would be.

KFC Thailand staff are treated according to Thailand labor Law.

KFC Australia staff are treated according to Australian labor Law

The sooner you realize that and stop trying to change the country where you DO NOT even reside, but come for an occasional holiday, the better it will be.

Following your logic, if in country A the law is to whip staff, so country B should be doing the same because its a franchise? Thats just simply insane!

You pointed out many things, just keep failing to note what has been pointed to you.

KFC OZ pays 1% above the minimum wage, so please stop trying to prove they "take care"

KFC Thailand, also pays above the minimum wage, by about as much

KFC Oz employees in OZ can not afford to have a car or own a house, just like employees of KFC Thailand

Meal allowance in OZ is only paid on overtime, in Thailand they are fed irrespective of the hours worked.

I do not know of any KFC in Thailand or in OZ located in the middle of the bush, so it does not have public transport.

Again, please stop trying to change the country where you do not even reside! if you want to be humanitarian, please direct your efforts to people who do not have a job at all, like people in Cambodia or Laos or if Thailand is of your choice, the elderly who do not get any money at all and do not have a job at all

No you are wrong on your points and your thinking.

KFC staff in oz are treated BETTER than the minimum allowable under our law. KFC Thailand are not treated better. You were the one that earlier stated it is a franchise and they treat workers under the law of each country. It is plain that they don't as some countries are treated above that law.

Meal allowance in oz is paid if doing overtime but they are still entitled to a meal during normal working hours. The meal allowance is over and above that entitlement.

I can tell you that in Brisbane public transport stops at about midnight so employees working after that time must find an alternative way home, therefore they are entitled to a taxi, if they have worked over 2 hours overtime.

However, you plainly did not understand what I have said. Even if there IS public transport the employee is entitled to a taxi if there is a danger in using the public transport.

You can argue that Brisbane is in the bush and not a real city if you like.

The place that I live has nothing to do with it. You could substitue oz for the UK, they get even more benefits with bonuses etc.

Which again shows that Thai staff are treated worse than staff in western countries.

I would not even worry if the price of KFC in Thailand was comparative to that in the west having concern for wages, but it isn't.

If you are happy to pay over the odds prices for KFC in Thailand whilst the employees are treated worse than western KFC employees, by comparison, then that is a matter for you.

I am not happy to do that.

i am sorry to go little off topic, but does not QLD have the biggest unemployment rate in Australia? Must be because company's take such a good care that people do not want to work and prefer to get the dole

If the so called Palestinians hadn't left their homes in 1948 and 1967 in response to Arab Countries requests to do so (so they could wipe the Israelis out) there would have been no returning to do. Perhaps they should be having words with those who extended such requests and ask to be granted citizenship instead of being stuck in refugee camps for political purposes.

That isn't that what happened.

Please do tell us what happened

The article doesn't mention the numbered killed in clashes between Fatah and Hamas, nor does it mention the numbers executed outright by Hamas.

You are welcome to add this information in this thread here. don't hesitate.

perhaps if Palestinian media were truthful to release the figures, we would

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

but Israel is a state, so whats your point?

Yes its a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group.

Apartheid and ethnic segregation belongs to the dust bin of history. Is that so difficult to understand?

and yet 1 500 000 arabs live in Israel, is that so difficult to understand?

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

but Israel is a state, so whats your point?