richardb

As things stand, the woman can lawfully stay in the UK until her current visa expires but as the relationship has broken down, an application for either an extension or indefinite leave is unlikely to succeed.

However, if, as you report, she is the victim of domestic violence, she can make an application for indefinite leave now. She will have to demonstrate the DV, though, which will include reporting it to the police and going to hospital to have any injuries documented.

Scouse.

Correct there is every likelyhood she will be able to stay. I would add though that the immigration rule dealing with domestic violence is very liberally interpreted. Get the ball rolling now. Get her to a GP now. Introduce her to the local womens domestic violence organization. Get a good ( legal Aid ) Immigration solicitor or go to the Immigration Advisory Service. Its helpful if there is a police report but it is not essential. Anyone who has seen the injuries can be a witness in any application to the Home Office.

Good luck

Richard

Bob you are a gentleman,

I hope to get a ticket this week too.

I hope to meet you.

I am sure you will be able to buy one at Heathrow. Ipod shuffle £32 ipod nano £100.

Richard

Keep the faith

The Royalty in N London for me

Richard

Queen Vic - one best watering holes on Soi6, great grub and can't beat the pints of cider.

Now I love a pint of cold cider on a hot day. Its dam expensive about £3.00 per can in most bars I stumble through . Shall revisit the Queen Vic whilst getting a new suite on Soi six next trip.

Richard

Time for all those with claimed connections to the local Old Bill to make calls and push for justice.

Don't let this rest, he's one of our own here.

Kurgen has a punctured lung, the knife came very close to his heart, don't think it was damaged. First night in BP was 70K baht.

The other person is a local lawyer who told a very different story to the BIB. Kurgen will need some help here.

Is his Embassy involved now. Surely this is a prime case where our diplomats should have some sway make it unequivically plain that our nationals can not be harmed with impunity. The days of sending a gunboat up the river may be long gone but we still let the ex pm hole up in Mayfair when he had some " difficulties ".

Richard

THE FACT IS, I AM BROKE AND SHE PUT ME IN THIS MESS.

I put almost all my money into this girl and her family and she and her mother took me to the cleaners. Yes I know that there are a lot of guys with similiar stories but my ex did in fact commit a crime and I am the good guy trying to recover my assetts.........

I was drawn to the phrase you use she committed a crime. That I think betrays some very unclear thinking on your part. Civil litigation needs focus.

Get a good lawyer now. One thing puzles me though. Did you put all your assets into the house ? Don't you have other capital or income?

Good luck

Richard

Dont't worry mate. My cover letter will explain that the circumstances and that the GF is in the UK. I have emailed the embassy to ask if " in person " means the actual person who is applying has to be there or just that they do not issue by post. If its the latter it should make no difference where the GF is as to whether she merits a visa or not.

If they do not answer I suppose we will have to suck it and see. If they refuse to accept the application at the appointment on the basis that she is ouside the country thats one thing if they will refuse it on that basis. Well I am not sure they can can they?

It would be a complete pain in the bum to fly back to BKK to do it in person.

Richard

I have emailed the Embassy but no reply yet. I see that visas are issued by appointment. Does the proposed visa holder have to be present or can the application and appointment be made by a relative. My GF is in the UK and I am planning to post her passport back for her sister to take with the application.

Any ideas

Richard

RichardB and the OP are obviously total idiots who don't realise what is happening in Burma at the moment... give me a sick bag

Why should I respond to your insults? Its your ignorance, nastiness and general stupidity I suppose.

I said in my reply ".................. My ex was burmese and I still visit her family and kid and they asked me not long ago if I could buy their house for them. In am sure I am not the only one on this board with a Burmese connection . Anyway if anyone has any info i would be interested."

I think I know Burmese people a bit better than you and they want and need our help and support. Thaink Thailand is poor? Burma is dirt poor. Think the Thai police have their hand out. Burmese worse. Need I go on .

OK OK off topic but <deleted> who just post mean and nasty insults should be confronted. My Ex's bones lie in Shan State and I take care of the family there. Got a problem with that then F you.

Richard

Cheers Kerryd I had a google myself anyway the girly made contact with my Girlfriend yesterday so she is ok.

As an aside for anyone who has an interest in these things the UK will shortly be signing a number of conventions which provide for a mite more help than the UK previously gave victims of trafficking. A " competent authority "is now in the pilot stage to identify victims before coming fully on line before Christmas and our various police forces, SOCA etc are dusting off their passports to pursue enquiries in sunnier climes if necessary ( see ex policeman arrested in Thailand for people trafficking last week )

Richard

But you worry, that is my understanding........ And does she like the tattoo, and the one who is ( proudly) wearing it????

If yes, it is not really your business, but that doesnot take away the worry part.

If no one has been able to stop her from going....

But now you are looking for a deeper meaning to this tatoo, what is it you think?? She will be tattood too, to the traditions of the cult the guy is in??

Or what else is it that you are looking for? Confimation of what you think that the guy is...whatever.. based on a tattoo?

Edit for typo

A sensible post Carib and yes I worry about my girlfriends family if only because she does. I have no issues about Tattoo's nor those that have them. Its the nature of it. OK let me be a bit plainer than I was in my OP . A Celtic Band Cool ! A Dolphin even cooler . A heart with mum on it . Fairly ordinary. Elvis. Oh Purrrlease.

Love and hate on your knuckles tells me a story.

Skins ----cut---- here ---tells another.

Not looking for confirmation of what I think the guy is I do not know him ( Yet ) Heck if he is sound we may well be related soon by marriage. But its been a few days now and she has not got in touch with my GF. And its a dam odd tattoo. DIY for sure. Prison or gang related? OK I like to figure all the possibilities its both personal and professional .

Richard

And the point of this post is .............. ?

Bitch about the tattoo or bitch about your girlfriends little cousin ?

10 inches long on his left chest, ? He must be a big boy LOL

Dear Empty mind , It really is empty isn't it

Richard

.......however take on board one of those smaltzy homilies originating from the other side of the pond - Every day that you don't do your best, is a day wasted.

The only person who can stop you being what you want to be and going where you want to go is YOU.

Hmmm I learned something from that. I too have some choices to make. Quit my job last month and am on " gardening leave" . The world and my girl's life are just great every morning, To the OP where in the UK are you?

Richard

ps the face looks a bit red indian and there are what looks like snakes just beneath where the neck would be.

Spot on Nignoy. Join the thailand-uk.com forum. A lot of the families meet up at the big Thai events and there is the odd dinner or trip organized by members. I may be having a little party next month ( London ) and the northern England lot are going camping!!!! Anyway you may meet other couples.

Richard

God some people are heartless. Has the OP and various others (RichardB) been living on the moon???

Unbelievable

What !!!

I think we are all talking about taking care of our Burmese friends and family and incidently having a little retreat in the Shan Hills maybe .

Richard

My girlfriends little cousin, an idiot, flew to Europe Friday to be with a bloke she hardly knows ( don't get me started ). He has a very odd tattoo. Its an old ugly mans face about 10 inches long on his left chest. A very odd tattoo. Anyone know if it means anything?

Ta

Richard

Do not know the OP but why do people think its a joke? My ex was burmese and I still visit her family and kid and they asked me not long ago if I could buy their house for them. In am sure I am not the only one on this board with a Burmese connection . Anyway if anyone has any info i would be interested.

Richard

In Palmers Green the Fox pub has got Thai food and in Bowes Park the Springfield Arms. Then there is the Jim Thompson in Winchmore Hill . All are a few miles from Tottenham

Shops ? There is an ok filipino in Wood Green Shopping City and a Chinese in Turnpike lane or try the Wing Yip Hypermarket in Tottenham

Are you sure your friends know where they will be living? Tottenham can be a bit shit hole !

There are a few Anglo Thai families but no real community focus so far as I know.

Richard

SOURCE: Pattaya City News: May 16th 2008

Police are not entirely sure if the story is correct and suggest the girl may be simply looking for a free ride back to Bangkok, however a report of the incident was made and Police are looking into the case further at this time.

Glad they are not pe judging the incident . F me free ride to Bangkok. Who makes up a story like that .

Richard

Dear Charma,

Step 1

Get a copy of the whole application put in . Scouser or anyone else will need to see exactly what information, statements, evidence was provided to the ECO.

Step 2

If as I suspect it was a f'd up application from the begining further representations as to the true state of affairs may result in a favourable review.

Step 3

If it was completely f'd up consider making a new application which satisfies the Immigration rule rather than appealling.

Step 4

Appeal and wait for a hearing date in about February 2009.

The rule is Rule 297 go to the BIA website click on law and policy click on rules and there you have it :ose his is the rule

"297.

(e) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and has had sole responsibility for the child's upbringing; or

As far as sole responsibility is concerned Pliny you are 100% correct Emmanuel is the starting point.

"The phrase sole responsibility is not to be interpreted literally, literal interpretation would defeat all claims Emmanuel 1972 IMM AR69. In Sioley 1972 IMM AR it was considered that the mother who left her son but had sole financial responsibility and being continuously consulted about the childs schooling and upbringing had sole responsibility. It was contended that the source and degree of financial support of a child and the mother’s genuine interest were relevant. In Martin 1972 IMM AR71 responsibility could be delegated to a relative. The more relevant to this particular appeal is that once sole responsibility has been established, there is no requirement to assess as to how sole long the parent with sole responsibility has held it. In Namaju 2001 INLR the tribunal having dismissed an appeal whereby they thought that mother who had had sole responsibility for 2½ months insufficient to satisfy paragraph 297(1)e. The Court of Appeal allowed the appeal stating the relevant issue under that paragraph as simply whether the parent had sole responsibility for the child and the length of time sole responsibility has been held might only be a relevant factor as to whether the parent actually had sole responsibility. Once it was established the length of time was not a relevant consideration. "

I make the point of including a submission I would use at appeals ( above ) because if your Thai Immigration Consultant does not know that stuff then they HAVE NO BUSINESS advising on Immigration Law.

Richard

ps if your friend wants some reasurance I am happy to chat to her or her husband

"She said it was best not to drink alcohol until you had found a farang because you might be there a long time and it wouldn’t be good to be drunk. Anne said that happened to her once. She was drinking vodka and tonic and she didn’t find a farang until after midnight and she went with him and had sex but she was so drunk she forgot to ask him for money."

Richard

I am reminded of "Girl with a one track mind" . It was a sexy blog. TRUE stories of the everyday (sex)life of un named girl in the film insdustry. The blog went ballistic and was then published as a best selling book. Film to follow I think.

Richard

When there is money to be made........

Richard

I was thinking of going along to see the Torch run ,

but i don't think i will chance it, it will only need one nutter to kick off and knowing the police they will just round up everyone .

Personally speaking I am planning to boycott as many products sold by olympic sponsors as I possibly can. It always puzzles me that the Thais dont get more het up over seeing Buddhist monks beaten, abused and murdered. ( Burma also ) . Mbai pen rai. The tourch will be back in UK soon for some other publicity thing. I read the Ausis have the right attitude threatening to arrest any of the blue tracksuited thugs who attack demonstrators.

Richard