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This should read "Reporting of sex crimes involving relatives on the increase"

Some Thai drug dealers were caught with a much bigger amount of drugs, they just walked away with "a fine", they had their connections ! Why is this guy on a picture with 10 police officers ? They don't have anything better to do ? Or is it because they caught a foreigner ?

Remember a British passport holder (his name was David too!) who was caught with drugs at a checkpoint in Sth Pattaya. It was reported about 3-6 months ago? His pic was in the papers and I happened to have met him a few years ago through a mate. Well, anyway I bumped into him recently, so he is out and about and not particularly concerned. It's not a Thai vs Foreigner thingy but a survival of the fittest matter, so play the system to get a get-out-of-jail card!!!

If what you said is true the last thing you want to do in regards to him is publish comments like this online, if he has gotten around the red tape you don't have to chuck him back in by giving a dobber from these forums a chance to go ask a Thai friend to make inquiries.

Hang them high! Is that correct? Fill the prisons with people who were so inept and a drain on society they had to turn to a life of crime? Clearly this criminal mastermind has murdered hundreds of people, caused political discourse and encouraged the masses to take to the street in protest.

Yes, clearly we are all lucky to have him off the street. Now he can waste tax money on the trail and subsequently in prison.

When they do throw away the key you can surely sleep better at night knowing his entire life now will have no real second chance.

I think it would be hard to find Thais to care about this, if you are in an influential position you generally don't care about lower cast society of which take the brunt of these systems. Whether inadequate justice system, or poor investigation by the police; poor people always get the short end. Thus you won't get people talking about it without influential people doing the same first.

I hate that whole carrying ID thing, the bib don't really care but they may still ask and give you an annoyed look when you tell them no.

There is a small group of Filipinos around the Bangkok area who have been playing gang and pushing people around for at least 5 years, I would name their group but I really wouldn't want to give them the publicity. The rap and dance for public entertainment when they can get the chance, I think they put a show on in paragon, but at night time when they aren't around they hang out at places like narcissist in Sukhumvit 22 and beat up random people, usually 20+ on a single person. There seems to be a lot of problems coming here from there.

Didn't I read the other day that all you need is a work permit to aquire a personal firearm in Thailand? I think its something a lot of foreigners should consider, its all nice and dandy today but no one knows what the future will hold for this place, and I personally would like ability and the piece of mind to defend myself and my loved ones.

This kind of frenzied attack bears the hallmark of people cranked up on yaba or ice.

I know people who take drugs, I know people who are violent, drugs does not necessarily cause violence, and I find most violent people are always just looking for an excuse. To blame drugs or excuse them from their actions by saying it was out of their control shows and complete lack of experience in these kinds of terms.

Besides I think you will find the no.1 cause of violence on earth to actually be alcohol.

"He has been diagnosed with a psychiatric condition that impairs emotional control."

I think most thais with even a monochrome of power would also have this excellent excuse waiting for them in the wings, seriously have you met some of the hi-so thai children who just run around playing in this country?

Racing on the highway, taking copious amounts of drugs, threatening people with daddies power... This is a regular day in the life of some of those people. I am not saying all of them because I know a lot of good ones as well, but there is a large group of bad eggs here with to much power and money.

Hhhmmmm that's 2 hotel/hi-rise fires in about 1 block,, in about less than 1 week,,,, hhhmmmm,,,, is someone trying to buy up those blocks?,,,, odd in a city this size,, they are so close, in area, and time I think,,,

My dads apartment is in that soi, there are some strange things going on around it as well. In our building a local Thai has moved in and started taking over the management of the building, somehow got the votes to remove the original management company and started buying surveillance equipment from his own company, replaces the security with his own men; and I think he is now renting out parking spots in our building.

Also I have had a few occasions where I have been told my taxi can't go into the soi and requested that we turn around, I got out and walked the short distance to my apartment and there were a lot of semi official looking men running around making sure no one was driving around until whoever it was had passed through the area. However, they were not police, so I didn't really understand who it was or what was going on.

I might add there was another fire in the soi on new years eve, I can't remember exactly what structure it was I just remember walking home from Narz and there were fire trucks and police cordoning off the street.

How many criminals have gun permits?

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society. But, a firearm makes it easier for an armed mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat - it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier, works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply would not work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation--and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

Marko Kloos

That settles it, next time i go somewhere with bargirls im bringing my watergun and telling them to leave me alone or else.

Seriously thought, that was a well written well thought out post.

What language are you people talking?

Reason.

To be honest I prefer to be able to defend myself rather than rely on others to do it for me.

Yes I know we have all heard this argument before but if everyone had guns it would be a lot harder to pull off things like Brevik did in Sweeden, instead of running around for 45 minutes in his free reign of terror; if people had turned around and returned fire he wouldn't have killed as many people as he did.

Those people left their hands in the lives of others and paid dearly for it.

Now I don't want everybody to have a gun, but can't really complain if I want one myself. Everyone should have the right to defend themselves.

19 and 22, stupid, but what a waste of young lives.... Then again they probably weren't the 2 nicest people to meet in the street from the looks of them either.

The investigation is not over yet, but it clearly is not terrorism.... Shouldn't they finish before declaring that its not related...

What a load of crap.

Notice still no police or army people arrested.

Where did they put the 135,445 people they arrested.

They give a list of what they have confiscated but neglect to mention it didn't even come close to the amount of drugs on the streets and in the police stations.

Not everyone who's arrested is guilty, so no need to put them all anywhere. You say they neglect to mention that the amount of drugs didn't even come close to what's on the streets. In fact, the article starts by saying the number of arrests is 35% of the target. Maybe you didn't bother to read the article.

How can they claim to know that 35% of the total is gone? Do they have a regular census that the drug dealers give all their information on?

It is not the inmates who bring in all that stuff, right? So where is the punishment for the dealers of the dealers?

I think a lot of it comes in during visiting time. I have seen people passing money out of prison and other objects going in when I go to visit my friend in IDC regularly. Like why would money ever come out? Because they are doing illegal stuff whether gambling or selling drugs. My friend told me they buy the drugs on the outside for 200-1000 baht and sell it for well over 10,000 baht for the same value. So it is a big business.

The guard obviously do not know, or are turning a blind eye to it. They generally seem very professional (as in massive dicks, like you would assume for a prison guard) to me. They always seemed to be very strict and follow their jobs very well.

There are the IDC volunteers (prisoners who help inside with random jobs, and are allowed outside the walls) they are corrupt as all hell, they have stolen over 80,000 baht from my friend so far in apparently bid to aid his release, he gives them the money they never come back to work... We reported this to the guards who actually told him to deal with this guy, and they said it happens and mai pen rai basically. They want him to buy a ticket home, but so far every baht he has had sent by his family has been stolen by someone or other, even a Thai lawyer he hired to help him simply took his money and didn't come back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LwyCHhbxOM

Ahhh i love bill hicks, tbh this isnt a debate about positive or negative effects of drugs.

Besides does it not seem a bit fkn retarded that he is going through phases of drug rehabilitation which require him to have phases of drugs?

I know they are branded and packaged but I swear some of the things you get over the counter in Thailand are worse than anything illegal I have ever had.

Just googling around tells me that there are between 200,000 and 400,000 people in Thai prisons, there were a few different figures so I didn't know which to believe. Either way adding 30-60% more people to this system seems at least problematic if not impossible. Since before this war on drugs they were having over crowding issues which in reality is the same as putting people into cans.

A friend of mine who is staying at IDC currently tells me there are around 80 people in his cell and they get 1.5 hours of exercise every 3 days. I doubt we treat animals like this.

Also they hung him from the ceiling by his arms and beat him for getting into a minor ruckus with another cell mate.

Silom has had raids nothing targeting westerners only local Thais. Seen Silom Soi 2 and 4 raided and a number of arrests in DJ Station.

Silom Police are offering cash rewards for info on local Drug Dealers and it seems to have worked with word that the street has dried up considerably.

I have never seen it this tough and its good to see its truly working. I know of 6 staff in restaurants and Bars that failed pee tests and got arrested and cant get out for 3 months. Only problem is 1 of them is on HIV medication and that often triggers a positive result for drugs when I fact they have not taken anything illegal. Thai Police don't seem to understand this and further education is required.

Its suprising however the amount of boys in Silom that pass the pee test and are not worried. Drug usage amongst the Gay Silom crowd is much less then people think.

They offer cash rewards? I'd hate to point out the wrong protected man...

Drugs are every where in bangkok... Last night alone i saw 1 waitress and a customer walk to a corner and exchange things, some farang hand a dude a bage covered in tissues in exchange for cash, and when I went to khao sarn later in the evening one of the bar staff asked me if I wanted Ecstasy... I was like "there is a cop sitting at this bar, and you ask me that?" he said the cop was cool.... I would never EVER see this ins the US. Probably in mexico they operate more openly but to say you don't want to see Thailand as bad as the US or mexico in terms of consumption is wrong. I actually think it is higher here, especially with younger groups.

Its all corrupt here, and crazy.

Drugs are every where in bangkok... Last night alone i saw 1 waitress and a customer walk to a corner and exchange things, some farang hand a dude a bage covered in tissues in exchange for cash, and when I went to khao sarn later in the evening one of the bar staff asked me if I wanted Ecstasy... I was like "there is a cop sitting at this bar, and you ask me that?" he said the cop was cool.... I would never EVER see this ins the US. Probably in mexico they operate more openly but to say you don't want to see Thailand as bad as the US or mexico in terms of consumption is wrong. I actually think it is higher here, especially with younger groups.

Its all corrupt here, and crazy.

criminals will always find a way. As long as there is profit in it, they will keep breaking the systems.

I am sorry to say this but what an idiot,what was he thinking??

Thinking? Did you see his hair?

Good news! There is a simple solution to this drug problem. We can legalize all drugs and then regulate them in the same way we do other drugs such as alcohol and tobacco. By doing this, we remove the profit motive so that the smugglers, dealers, and street sellers will all have to find other forms of employment. The savings on law enforcement costs will enable proper treatment for those with drug abuse issues--with loads of money left over.

Don't believe me, though. I'm just a guy on the Internet. See what the LEAP (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition) experts have to say about it. These are former drug warriors who understand that Drug Prohibition is the cause of the problem and NOT the solution.

Dude you can't argue that! It would make everything to easy. These draconian types prefer to spend lots of money in a losing war, and prefer the criminal organizations to reap all the benefits.

We need to keep the streets safe for our kids, I mean prohibition has worked wonders so far. Right? Right?

I actually hate drugs (well class A) with a passion, but think making them illegal makes them far to dangerous and only profits the stupid, bold and violent. But this weekend just going around Bangkok, and I went to mostly industry events this weekend, I must have seen at least 3 different people sniffing something in the bathroom (its not discrete guys if there is 1 cubicle closed 3 people talking and someone taking a sniff every 20 seconds loudly) and literally found some strange pills which I am going to ahead and assume from their color and shape were not pressed in a legitimate factory. I showed them to a friend of mine who told me it was ecstasy and he took it away, I doubt he handed it over to the authorities.

I have actually often wondered, if you do find something and want to hand it into police is it safe to do that here? Or will they try and get something out of you for having it?

Shock! Horror! the world must be ending/

Who cares? Do gooders save 3 girls, partaaay.... now only 1,299,998 to go, not a constantly growing number nope nope

Honestly, who cares?