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Yes, many Thai women (but most certainly not all) are vain. And they are not afraid to purloin your wallet in advancement of their vanity in the form of boob jobs, gold jewelry, designer clothes, a car, a condo, etc, etc. They can also be control freaks IF you let them. The first best Thai word to learn in dealing with these type of women??? MEI-OW (NO)...and to be more emphatic about it, add "mak-mak" after mei-ow...which roughly means NO, VERY MUCH. Do not be afraid to hurt their feelings by kicking them to the curb if they get out of hand with you. They can be like buses; there's always another one coming along in 15 minutes. Be careful and TAKE YOUR TIME. Thai women are capable of being the most gracious and beautiful mates one could ever ask for.

I can only give you my experience with Thai lady's a vien. My wife has never had a problem with telling me how beautiful she is and of course, she is. But they are a little overboard, yes. But always let them feel good about themselves. I think its a healthy thing for them to feel or joke about it. It for us, Has been a joke but surely mean't serious by her. Never try and take that away from her or at least not too much as it will hurt her feeling very much. Let her feel you think she is too but keep in mind, this is a factor that she can use thinking she will be spoiled more by you because she is beautiful. I just smile and jokingly say yes, I would never have an ugly wife, which is true also but. Sometimes when they continulaly say how beautiful they are this could go to thier head more than you want, so just keep it simple and agree and change the subject. I once said to my wife something about being a tiny bit overweight and it really got to her and then started on some diet pill thing. Walking or working out was not in the cards as walking would mean being outdoors in the sun and that is a big no no because then she might get a little darker from the sun. Sometimes it almost makes you feel as they are doing you a favor by being with you because they think that they are beautiful. Yes yes, Vien is common with thai ladys. I have said yes, "you are very beautiful and modest too" with a smile of course. She never has figured out what I mean't by "modest" but let her have it. if it makes her feel good, that's good.

I have found many other thai ladys with the same "i'm very pretty" or I'm prettier than my sister etc. Just a difference in culture and no need to worry about it. Let her feel good but don't ever let her feel she is doing you a favor by being with you. I used the same tactic back saying yes, "i am really handsome" too and I get a look of ...what?...I'm not supposed to say that. My intention was to try and let her know that modestly is a good thing rather than being conceited and telling you how beautiful she is.

There is a way to handle that if you are tired of hearing it so often. What I do is flash a little (extra) glance at another attrative lady to get her to understand that she is not the worlds prize although she is very beautiful and not because she is my wife but because she just is. Many people have said to us/her that they aren't used to seeing a beautful thai girl with a falang. (my wife is not from issaan). I think Thai people consider issan woman who have a little darker skin to be not pretty. But the fact is, many many issan women are some of the most beautiul I have ever seen...In Thailand darker skin is considered underclass and the lighter skin is upper class i.e. working in the sun that gives them darker skin from the sun but also shows to other thai's that they are a lower class because most likely poorer.

It's sad, but that it is that way of judging people that way in los. We grew up learning differently than that. In my contry It is who a person is, rather than where or how much money you have that lets us decide about someone.Thailand has a long way to go yet, but it's just that way right now and will be for another 10-20 years if not more.

In the west women buy skin darkening lotion and in the east women buy skin whitening lotion all with the same intent of becoming more attractive. It's just totally backwards from what you've known and stands to reason because from America everyone in Thailand is upside down(literally) and in America everyone is upside down from thailand......everything you know and learned in your country is backwards....., just think the oposite in Thailand...that's normal!...many things anyway.....not all....it's a leaning experience for sure. Many things your gf will say or do won't make any sense to you but to her many things you say and do won't either....so just take it as it comes and learn..

and the last op is right about saying no. You won't get a good response when you use that word but in time, you will gain some respect. If you always let her have her way all the time...you might as well leave now because she won't respect you and think of you as not smart...they are very good at what they do too!!...it's hard to say no to a very beautiful soft spoken thai lady and they know this about falang's generosity. So keep that in mind while you learn. One other tip. Never let her know your true worth or income until you know what you are in!!!...see how long it lasts if she thinks you are not as rich as she thinks. Then you will have a better idea of what it is she is after, you or your money!!!.....good luck!

thanks for the input lads,very grateful.i think im lucky with my girlfriend because she is naturally beautiful but not interested in designer clothes,make up, salons and she works full time so she isnt bleeding me dry.Im kinda thinking its too could to be true though and somethings gonna happen but what makes me laugh is she goes on a forum for thai girls with falang boyfriends called inter so maybe shes just like me.

Perhaps W. Shakespeare was wrong? Vanity, not Frailty? But why knock Thai women? Are they not all women? Thai, American, Russian, Indian....? Get off this lame high horse and go get a cuppa...

The vice minister said that 2,501 checkpoints have been set up across the country, with 65,494 personnel being deployed. Over half a million vehicles -- 526,610 -- have so far have passed through the inspection process at the checkpoints.

Legal action has been taken against 60,497 people for violating traffic rules -- 19,260 for riding motorcycle without helmets and 18,916 for driving without licences, stated Mr Sorayut.

WOW, Those are overwhelming numbers

11.5% of drivers passing thru the check point got a blister. (assuming no driver got more than one).

For nearly every rider that was booked not wearing a helmet there was a rider or driver without a licence . If those statistics ring through at that same ratio, everytime you see a rider without a helmet, very close by is a driver without a licence.

Amazing Thailand.

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can someone explain to a thick scotsman. why is there so much accidents and fatalities ?? i am baffled..

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On a side note, I wonder how many of those rider/drivers that were booked for not having a licence were allowed to ride/drive away after being booked?

It is soothing to see how much the police can do in one day.

Imagine Thailand the safest place on the globe to drive... if only they could make it their job 24/7/365 ....

Dogs and motorcyclists are the menace to all.

4 kids on one scooter and not one helmet between them! - this is the symbol of Thailand....- and no police in sight....

Because of all said above, the authority's initiative for the Seven Deadly Days is yet another useless 'crockdown'

I've met many Koreans. Naturally, I'm meeting many Thais. Believe it or not, but much higher %% of Koreans speak English... and they speak it better. Sorry, didn't mean to piss on anybody's parade.

But if Thai Education Authority could buy these robots, maybe the faces of their english teachers will look better?

N.B. I judge the face of a teacher only by the level of knowlege passed on to students.

Foreigners in general are treated quite differently when it comes to credit card applications. I guess the main reason for this is the fear that as a citizen of another country with a passport, you can so easily just decide to leave back to your home country - and then, what will they do? Here are two ways of getting credit cards that I know of. Neither is, perhaps, great, but still.

1. If you are married to a Thai, and they have a credit card, you should be able to get one as a card 'piggy backing' off of your spouse's card.

2. If you agree to deposit with the bank, the same amount of money as your credit limit.

There may well be better suggestions out there, but these two are ways I personally know of, so throwing them out there for consideration. I am using the first option myself. If that seems like something for you, you could try to contact Bank of Ayudhya. I have not heard of age discrimination before, but it sounds like lannarebirth could be on to something.

Lastly, remember this is Thailand. Just because you get a no at one place by one person, does not mean the same reasoning will apply at the next occasion.

HA-HA and one more HA!

Not bad for thai banks. Deposit with them $15,000 at about 2% and you will get a right to withdraw at close to 20%.

Plus the hassles of daily limit, fees for cash, risk of losing it, risk of fraud, penalty for late payments, ...did I forget something?

Ah, yes, yearly account fees! Really, the Banks nowaday should be reconsidered. And not in Thailand only.

They tell us we can't live without them. I'm not sure. But sure as hell they can't live without us bailing them out....

Actually, this is more related to the question of viability of e-books.

I have only one reservation about them. Overall the idea is great! It makes me look like an idiot after collecting thousands of hard cover quality books over about 50 years, not speaking of keeping them, moving, dusting, etc... And the costs wasted (?) over those years!

My reservation is based only on lack of information from the electronically available (downloadable) books libraries.

They all point out cheerfully the millions of titles available. What if someone's specific needs are not from their mainstream?

Just to illustrate my doubts: if I am interested in W. Shakespear, W. Blake, W.S. Maugham, G. Byron, E.M. Remarque, L. Feichtwanger, A. Dumas, A. Chehov, M. Bulgakov, J. London, Stendahl, O. Balzac, G. Maupassant, R. Kipling, G. Orwell, etc. etc. etc.... while the libraries in question offer millions of titles from Mills&Boon collection, - the good idea sucks!?

In short, can I check what is on offer in a package: e-book AND the list of books available for download? Please point this info here.:jap:

One presumes their initial treatment will involve being taken to a police station and chained to a cell bar for a couple of weeks.....or until they cheer up?

I would say that the announcement by DSDW deputy director-general Lertpanya Booranabundit et al shows that they really have done no research into the situation at all and are simply making assumptions that they hope will justify a nasty campaign to clear the streets of the poor, disadvantaged and homeless.

I think the technical term for it is "sweeping under the carpet"

The whole CRACKDOWN affair on POOR and MENTHALLY SICK is as promising as all other Govt 'crackdowns'.

The only treatment for 'poor' would be to make them rich? Please correct me....

The only treatment for 'mentally sick' would be : a) diagnose, treat or c) institutionalise.

Hope the Govt has the money, the people, the facilities and a long lasting resolve to actually do these things....

.................. Wouldn't it be nice?! ................ instead of another CROCK DOWN........

Does anyone doing the hiring really care that someone has a TEFL? I know when I was in a position to hire people I didn't care. Is it just a scam where these course operators

may know a few places where they can get people hired, and make students go through their first course so they can get some $$ from them?

It's advised not to post on a teacher forum when you had a fight with your partner and lost it.

A good question deserves a good answer.

Any course in any country can be classed as 'good' or 'bad'. In my opinion the only valid appraisal is whether the course in question is recognised by the potential employers around the world.

Now, if you think the TEFL diploma from Thailand will land you a job anywhere, except cheap local school, and on conditions not satisfactory to any respectable employee around the same world, - you are deluded.

... Why do I get the feeling that you are not happy with this answer?....

An interesting research overall.

However, the question of 'morality' or 'legality' of this trend should be left out entirely, as it is outside the point of reference.

The ways individuals behave are subject to many factors. Gender, socioeconomics, biology, age, opportunity, availability, etc. are only visibly known factors. I am sure there are many more in each case.

So, this is how we, humans, behave.

Judgemental opinions are and always will be arbitrary, politicized, catered for groups and/or short term prevailing interests.

"Morality" or "Legality" of such behavior are societal problems. I am sure neither King Solomon, nor Turkish Sultan had any problems with this morality, as well as their subjects.

The staunch moralists should look at the laws and morals they preach. I do not claim having panacea for human problems. But, perhaps, replacing 'LIFE LONG MARRIAGE LICENCE", which is a fallacy from our behavioral point of view as well as statistically and legally speaking, being a pile of crap, - should be replaced by a 'RENEWABLE 2 YEARLY MARRIAGE LICENCE" based on both parties application??? The only thing we lose in this case is a bunch of legal voultures, feeding off human misery and a few severed penises.

Once again, an interesting research, a stupid interpretation.

Mt. Everest is outside the jurisdiction of Thai Govt. That' why they get it.

Poor people living there have no advantage of being looked after.

That's why they are 4th World country, while we are 3rd !

Learn and feel the difference....

Not much wonder she is laughing in the last picture - probably cant believe that telling them she was pregnant actually worked!!!

Lenny, haven't you got a heart? The lady is 25, her boyfriend is with her. It is quite possible she was pregnant for an hour or two...

The whole matter is blown out of proportion... A simple case of pregnancy craving...

In the past 10 - 15 years we have witnessed many airlines collapse, change hands, go into involuntary amalgamations, alliances and so on. Many of them (too numerous to list) are in financial troubles today. I deliberately refuse to mention any names, because the trend is universal, on all continents, for all nations.

What or who is to blame? You will hear of reasons from all angles: - from global economic downturn to fuel prices, from demise of geotourism to rise of ecotourism, from threat of terrorism to ageing population, from political instabilities at home to political disturbances abroad, from rising costs of travel insurance to threats of medical conditions, from global warming to ecological disasters, from economic mismanagement to increased dangers due to ageing fleets, - the list can go on...

One reason, however, is never mentioned. "The on the ground costs". Please, do not ask me what are they made of, or how they are made up, it must be a closely quarded secret. Usually they are coming under the 'Fees, charges, surcharges, supercharges, additional charges and taxes' heading.

To illustrate my point, I am offered an airfare of 15,000Bt for a return trip with total distance about 24,000 km. The reputable international carrier will carry me, my luggage and my handbag, provide food, drinks and entertainment on a long trip, plus all the usual comforts... The total cost of travel, - 30,000Bt... !?

My heart is bleeding for the air carriers. Needles to say, it is bleeding for my money. I wander what are the feelings and opinions of the rest of travelling community? Please have your say...:jap:

You can buy it on the Amazon UK site and have them ship to your child in UK.

As far as I am informed there is already Kimble (thailand) you can google it.

Whether it is worth buying it here, is an entirely different question.

I like reading myself. I am thinking of buying one, but have doubts. Many and different kind of doubts. Sic.

Why on earth are they calling this phenomenon a 'flash' flood. It sounds like areas along the river are subject to possible flooding, but there is nothing 'flash' about it.

If it rises really quickly then it would probably be considered a flash flood.

So anyone think its better to leave Bangkok if can do?

Yes, that's why the flash ad is automatically switched on :

BUY BOATS ON THIS CLASSIFIED ADS SITE>>>

Just a funny touch to a grim news...

Oh, no! Not again! In the name of Peace, Freedom of speach, Democracy, Political Stability and Preservation of Thai National Identity... will somebody shut up 'The Nation'? One provocation after another... ! Eliminate Powerty... Reduce Income Inequity... Reduce/eliminate Corruption... Change the unfair Laws... And all this from the Top?... From the Government?... Some Economist!!!

A great many people will be squashed in the streets, before anything like this will happen. Meanwhile, - smile:) .

By the way, Economics is not a Science, it is considered an Art. The only vital artform in this field is called Political Economics. The actual results of which are never intended... nor even wanted.

Dear Surutchada (PhD???). You should not worry about this country. Nobody has to say anything for millenia. Just smiling!... Democracy? what democracy? where? here?... Unless you have been misquoted in the 'Nation', which happens quite often, good luck in presenting your Thesis, get your PhD and come home to LOS to join 'them'. Because sure as hel_l you can't beat 'them'. And do me a favour, please, do not ask who are them.

P.S. Sorry I can not quote all the posts above.

I would contact Toyota's corporate offices in Bangkok to report this bad service by one of their dealers.

This was my first thought too. But upon reflecting, I would try to inform the Toyota Corp. Japan. I'm sure japs would get onto Toyota Corp. th in no time.

And it will be noticed...

I wish they'd just clean up the lady-boys and leave the women alone. They're a lot more of a problem anyway.

ah-ha...do i sense a sex (gender) based discrimination here?

actually, as a non-involved party, i want to point out that thai ladyboys look more feminine and classy than thai girls. my g/f agrees with this statement

We've never had any problems using our Thai drivers license to get "resident" price, but we have to ask if we're by ourselves or with a group of westerners. We've been with Thai people, like the only two foreigners in a van with 8 middle-aged, well-dressed Thais and they manage to talk our way in without anyone checking anything. Actually, I think we've gained entrance to national parks and the like with no charge at all when we've been part of a group of 8 - 10 Thai people.

Like many things here, I think it depends upon the mood of the person in the position to decide your entry fee.

I have read all the posts below. 4 years back I have first seen the sign in CM. This double tier admission price policy is a shame of thai government. Money is not the issue here. Considering the %% of farang vs thai visitors, bumping up the price 10% for everybody would keep the revenue.

The issue is that it smells of "whites only" or "arians are local". I believe it is high time thai ministers look at themselves in the mirror and smell the air in their vicinity. The smell is distinctly racist with a nazy tinge:lol: . .

Just 5 years ago it was very common to see signs at bars and restaurants around Pattaya that read, "NO ARABS TO SIT HERE." Some would have more details such as, "No Arabs Allowed. We respect your faith in Islam but do not want you in our establishment accosting our women." Then one day all of the signs were gone and the city is full of Arabs.

And lets not forget the "Japanese Only" bars in various cities around Thailand (and the world). Ever been to Japan? "Gaijin" (non-Japanese - outside person) is not allowed in many places.

A private establishment makes their own rules. Ugly as it may be, what can you do?

I knew of a bar (since closed) on Samui which had a similar sign. It was taken down during a re-modelling and not put back up until a local BIB asked. They were regularly receiving tea money from arabs to hassle the owner, a duty he had never bothered to carry out.

I regularly refuse to rent motorcycles to Thais and some other persons - this has nothing to do with race, just business. In the past, Thais have had accidents then claimed to have no money for repairs, have copied keys with intent to steal the bike, and have rented a bike and changed parts on their own bike. I will also not rent to 3 (Italian, I think) cheap charlies who wanted to rent 1 Wave, or to a Greek gent around 150kg, as the damage done to the bike exceeds the rental return.

With Thais, I will and have rented to those personally known to me, even to use as a taxi while his own bike was being repaired. My Thai g/f objects to me renting to bar girls, as there is tendency to offer discount services in lieu of cash.

Thanks, OzMick, you made me laugh. You are a sensible ozzy with a sensible lady. Good luck to you both.

Way I look at it if a business wants to exclude me I do not go there, nor want to.

I am not a Racist...

That said, I try to look at the whole issue from business point of view.

Given that vast majority of Thai hotels are near empty, think what pains the management had to go through to implement such a policy!!!

My heart is bleeding for them, when I think what events, deeds, scandals and embarassment they went through, before such drastic measures at times like this one.... And BRAVO to Thai Laws (for once!) allowing this to happen.

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How do you know the young boy is in good hands?

Come on , Scarecard, try to be objective. Not every momma is an innocent angel and not every pa is a child molester.

Your incinuations stink.

The woman in question clearly (look at the facts provided) married to get out of her Paradise, achieved her goal, produced the litter, than decided to use the kid as a trump card.

One thing I hate the most is how todays societies (everywhere) scream of gender eguality and give women preferencial treatment in every case in every family court. One thing, or the other, but you can't have both.

I admire the man and his actions.

I am also glad he didn't have to battle her 'motherly' rights. Were the child born in LOS, he would be doomed to be a proud Thai for life, never mind momma sleeping with every nation at the village, no education and chipped teeth.

A happy ending to a morbid story.

P.S. Just out of curiosity, and to prove my point: 1) Was momma doing what she is doing now before marriage? 2) What was the reason for divorce? (I'm not sure, but suspect the 'lady' tried to mix old habits with new duties???).

Since the opening of this Clinic we notice that the grass in Phuket is greener. Good luck to all.

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Gonzo, I protest. This is not a disease. It is a condition. It may or may not cause problems, depending on your attitudes

A good friend of mine used to say: ' I drink, I get drunk, I fall asleep, I wake up. I drink.... etc. No problem'.

And when my wife told DVLC she had taken her driving test in LOS they told her it didn't count.

1. Congrats and best wishes.

2. Looking at the heading of your post, can't resist.

Meeting a Thai in Thailand: Part 1

Dating aThai in wherever: Part 2

Marrying a Thai in England: Part 3

????????????????????: Part 4 ? :jap: