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3 minutes ago, madmitch said:
Exactly. It's too prohibitive.
The other issue is that there aren't enough labs producing the test results. If you're churning out a constant number of results every day then its no surprise the numbers are flat.
However this doesn't explain the very low death count.
For the testing we had done, the results took about 48 hours to get, due to the lack of labs, then this time is increasing.
The low death rate is puzzling compared to the ones seen in Europe / USA
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3 minutes ago, Allset said:
And others haven’t imposed it at all like where I live.
Negative, Nationwide it is 22.00 to 04.00, this is for ALL provinces, whether they enforce is a different matter.
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15 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:
The COVID-19 percentages according to the WHO's stats are averaging about 5.5%
Based on KNOWN cases, the general consensus is that you can multiply that by a factor of 10 to get the actual number, given this the percentage rate would be 0.55%
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1 minute ago, Allset said:
I don’t understand this article says there’s already a curfew so I’m guessing that’s just Bangkok or Pattaya because up here there’s no curfew nor have I heard of one anywhere else except here.
Nationwide curfew in place 22.00hrs to 04.00hrs
Some provinces have imposed stricter ones.
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1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:I don't believe the 25k figure of tests, made up number i think to try to give the impression they are testing sufficiently
Actually, I disagree, I have no idea how the figures are collected or compiled, however I do know that a lot of people are getting tested.
I had cause to get 50 people tested very recently, this was not that easy to organise as all of the hospitals / laboratories are flat out testing, two weeks ago we had to get 6 guys tested as a precaution, our staff spent over 4 hours trying to find a hospital that could accommodate this, some of the bigger hospitals in BKK had several hundreds of people at each hospital waiting on site to be tested per day and were estimating an 8 hour wait at least, the swab tests take less than 3 minutes per person, later on that week we had 4 people go to one of the drive thru testing centres, again in BKK and there were hundreds there also.
Based on this, I would think that 25,000 is on the low side.
The biggest issue is cost, we paid in the region of 6,000 Baht per person, your average Thai simply cannot afford this.
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3 hours ago, gunderhill said:They should just accept the death rate and carry on, instead they'll lose more through the economic crash.
This is the crux of the issue, it is nothing to do with whether you, me and Joe Bloggs are ready for this long term, it is everything to do with whether the world as a whole can sustain it.
Long term isolation, be it ordinary folks staying at home, no flights etc. is just not sustainable, the economies of the world would collapse and with it would come massive unemployment and social collapse, the devastation would be enormous, far far greater that CV itself.
Imagine trying to sustain what we are seeing for a long period of say two years, or worst still forever, the only shops allowed to open being food and pharmacies, so no clothing stores etc. therefore factories producing goods have to either slow production and layoff staff, commodities would become scarce, so therefore more expensive, meanwhile the populous would have a lot less money and what they do have has to be spent on food.
Governments would lose massive amounts of revenue on income and corporation taxes, VAT revenues, social security payments, import duties, airport taxes etc. whilst dishing out more and more on social related payments and trying to stabilize things, healthcare services would drop, education would become a thing of the past.
Meanwhile the people isolated in their homes cannot afford to repay their mortgages, pay their bills such as electricity, water, council taxes etc. so these get either cut off or severely reduced, the local authorities can no longer afford to collect any rubbish, the list goes on.
The emergency services would have to be reduced due to the lack of public funds.
Anarchy would inevitably take over, suicides rates would rocket way above the deaths caused by the virus.
There will become a point where governments will have to decide between this or an acceptable attrition rate caused by the virus.
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1 minute ago, Walter Travolta said:
So does that mean a postcode with the same numbers can have 2 separate areas? Like for example Balham (South london) and Barnet (North London)
I based my comment on the presumption that 1 postcode aligns to just 1 area, which, if is the case, Nicks postcode would be part of Pattaya?The post codes here only denote which post office it is sent to, whereas in the UK it can define down to one or two houses.
For example, my house, which is in Pong sub-district is still 20250, it covers a huge area.
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28 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said:
Im in Central Patts and my postcode is 20150 or at least that is what it says on all my documentation
All of Pattaya is now considered as 20150, which denotes Banglamung Post Office, 20260 was used before and was for the post office in soi post office (13/??)
The post code has nothing to do with the city limits.
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59 minutes ago, WhereIsMyRyeBread said:
you never lose the lady you only use your turn
and you don't miss a slice of a cut loaf........
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2 hours ago, Metropolitian said:No mentioning that the three are foreigners from UK.
So they were Thai who brought the virus with them?
Almost certainly, as both flights arrived after foreigners were banned from entry, so unless they held work permits or were diplomats, then they were Thai, not that it makes any difference.
The chances of them being infected by the seats or any other part of the plane are extremely slim, considering the article said that :
3 hours ago, webfact said:The three passengers had developed symptoms en route and later tested positive for the virus.
It would be unheard of that a person developed symptoms within a few hours of being exposed to the virus.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52126735
It is debatable whether wearing a mask if you are healthy will stop you from catching the virus.
One of the main reasons a lot of people wear them is because they think it will, personally I have no problem with this if it makes them feel better, but it does give a false sense of security and most available masks do not seal the nose and mouth and are handled incorrectly.
However, it does show the way hype affects somebody's thinking and attitude, whereby the people wearing the mask think that this will protect THEM from catching the virus, it is fact that most masks are not worn to protect other people.
A mask can be considered as PPE and yet inexplicably a big percentage of the Thai people that wear a mask will not think twice about jumping on to a motorbike without putting a crash helmet on, where statistically they have far more chance of being killed or badly injured.
Another interesting article, which sets some perspective, something sadly missing right now:
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Posted by mistake in the wrong thread ????
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51 minutes ago, Isaan Alan said:Thailand is a hierarchical society and deference is given to everyone above you in the hierarchy. Farangs come along and don;t play by their rules.
This is actually one of the bad things about the country, it has a very detrimental effect on the way things are done here.
I see it in daily life here, where no one will question their senior, regardless of what they think of the decision, this applies in every ward of life.
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2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:
No.You say I say that.That's a bit different isn't it.Is that the best you can do to try and make stuff up to try and make a point?Just make your point and stop trying so hard to make a fool of yourself and you might want to calm down a little as hyperventilating affects brain function as you so clearly demonstrate.Apart from that I agree with the rest of your post,well said.
Wow! Strange reply, perfectly calm this end.
The point of my post regarding the morbidity rate was to state fact, nothing is made up whatsoever.
I might have misinterpreted your post, for which I apologise.
I will also concede that the rate will be affected by the ability of the healthcare of a country to cope, which will vary widely country to country.
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43 minutes ago, Rick1812 said:
I check BKK arrivals website the other day - plenty of planes arriving from China.
Since 26th March there will be very few Chinese in them ????
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8 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:2 weeks incubation another 2 weeks before death comes creeping into the room so about a months time before increases will be noticeable.
You say that as if this virus is going to kill every single person it infects!
The reality is it doesn't, proper research in to this will reveal that the morbidity rate is not that great in reality.
A lot of the people who have sadly died had underlying medical conditions prior, a good percentage of them would have died anyway, of course, I accept that it is impossible to know how many or how much longer they would have survived and any premature death is not good.
The death rate percentages that we all see are not a true reflection, far from it, the death rate attributed to the virus are against the known number of cases, it would not be unreasonable to multiply those known cases by a factor of at least 10, possibly more, to get the true numbers, a prime example of this is Germany, where testing is carried out in large number and their morbidity rate is low.
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10 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:i think it is 70% cultural. the numbers are low because
most Thais I know are scared of hospitals and doctors.
They just sit quietly and suffer through the normal flu or cold.
they only go to the pharmacy when they are running a high fever or have really bad flu symptoms. still no official contact with anyone.
I don't think it is cultural, it is economics.
Most Thais that can afford it run to the doctors at the slightest sign of anything wrong with them, the doctor hands over a bag of assorted colour pills and all are happy.
Hospitals and pharmacies are lucrative businesses.
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11 hours ago, christophe75 said:
The same governor who decided to close all 7/11 shops... from 10 PM to 5 AM ?
No idea if it was him, whoever it was ain't that smart in my opinion, whilst there is no curfew, then keep them open 24/7, the new hours will mean the same number of customers have to go in a shorter space of time, which is counter productive to social distancing, plus of course a whole night shift has just been laid off and are probably heading home!
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7 hours ago, Nemises said:
Plenty of (1 stop) flights available BKK to MEL.
You are not “stuck here” as you claim in Post #8.
Yes he is, Thailand are NOT allowing any foreigners in to the country unless they have PR, a work permit or are on a diplomatic passport, even with these, the conditions apply for the covid insurance and health certificate, this has been the case for a few days, so not sure why you think he is not stuck, as he doesn't qualify under the latest rules.
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OP, this makes no sense, did you present the KR.6 that details all of the divorce agreements, custody rights etc. to immigration?
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This is understandable regarding the visas, as there is virtually no travel allowed anyway.
However, it does raise the question about passport renewal, especially if this situation drags on as expected and the Thai government end up placing a lock down on most peoples movements.
How would people renew their passport, especially if they have left it to the last minute to do so, there could come a situation where their passport is about to expire and there isn't a way of renewing it, meaning they are here in Thailand with an expired passport and therefore permission to stay.
One option in that case would be for the UK to allow an extension of validity to the passport.
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OP, as some one else has asked, was your original visa an OA visa, if so, then this now requires the approved health insurance to renew the extension of stay, loads of topics on that one.
As far as the 65k versus 800k in the bank part, again, as others have stated, why not renew on the 800k in the bank, instead of using income, if the minimum 800k is in the bank year round, which is what you suggest, then no problem to do this and a lot easier than income.
Good luck getting your 18k back, if you are on an OA extension, then this is cheaper than buying the insurance!
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2 hours ago, geisha said:
logosone , It also states that all confirmed cases of the virus should be sent to the treatment centers and hospitals. So what do you, or they, suggest one does when these centers and hospitals are full to overflowing with very sick patients ?
Actually the official advise in the UK states that you should not go to a hospital or GP surgery unless you are experiencing respiratory problems or under a high risk category, i.e. older people.
if you have coronavirus symptoms:
- do not go to a GP surgery, pharmacy or hospital
- you do not need to contact 111 to tell them you’re staying at home
- testing for coronavirus is not needed if you’re staying at home
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Governors put on alert for tougher measures to contain Covid-19
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I tried to go to there on Saturday, unfortunately they have new opening hours, now opening at 10am, I also noticed that they have only the one entrance in use now.
IMHO that is counter productive to social distancing, as less opening hours simply means more people in the shop at any one time, reducing the entrance means everybody has to funnel through one point.