mxyzptlk
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Has anybody else like me done a "walk in" 90 day report and received a receipt printed on a piece of recycled paper which contains a copy of someone else's passport ID page on the reverse side?? As already pointed out by UJ, what about the copies of your passport page when you rent a car or motorcycle, check into a hotel or register a SIM card????? Can't understand why these "technical experts" are getting their panties in a twist....
If you don't want to use the online system THEN DON'T
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Last time I got a 5 year DL, our lass phoned the DVLC @ Nang Rong and they said they would only accept a C of R from immigration and not from the Police, but since then I have read that others have been OK with a letter from the police...same old story, depends on your DVLC and indeed the officer you deal with on the day....like most government offices....the only thing that is consistent in Thailand is that there is NO CONSISTENCY.....LOL
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If enough people complain to their Embassies they might seek official clarification, causing a U turn.
HTH
It's about as likely as rocking horse sh.y.te
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This year i changed from a rental property to live in the girlfriends village home. I dont have a rental agreement anymore so need advice for residency confirmation for my future visa extention based on retirement. I have also been advised that she somehow has to advise immigration that there is an alien residing in her house. I live in the Lampang area that does not have a local immigration office.
A signed copy of the house owner's ID card and blue house book is what I provide for proof of address.
Form TM30 is used to advise immigration of an alien living in a Thai residence.
It can be downloaded from http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/pdf/tm30.pdf
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My post is a photo of a document that was given to me by the immigration office at Lop Buri, it is what they require and I have no problem with complying.
I don't need to link to anything I know what the (very friendly and helpful) immigration office I attend requires and I provide it.
Up to you what you do and what you believe but I give you a word of advice.
Get rid of your negative and provocative attitude and you will find dealing with immigration, and life in general in Thailand, much easier.
Thanks for the advice. I've always given immigration anything they asked for in a timely manner and never had any problems. I have never given them more than they asked for.
That was my point. Don't make up requirements, like maps to your house or photos of you and the Mrs when applying for a retirement visa. Don't give em any ideas how to make it harder for us poor old expats.
I also think it is a big mistake to take your wife when applying for a retirement visa. Nothing to do with her and only creates problems. But that's my opinion.
You have the advantage when they think they have to explain stuff in English.
Don't smile, don't frown, be neutral and nice and act dumb rather than smart. But that's only my opinion. Your milage may vary.
When you visit an immigration office where little or no English is spoken IMHO it is a big advantage to take your wife / GF with you especially if (like me) your Thai language skills are not adequate enough to allow a detailed discussion with the immigration officer in the event of an issue....but that's just me
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I've had to provide proof of address (house owner ID card & blue house book) for my last 6 extensions (3 @ Korat and 3 @ Kap Choeng). So it's not a new requirement for me....IMHO it's always better to have too much paperwork available than not enough....Having said that I only give them what they ask for.....
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A system that works some of the time for some people is no better than one that never works. Give them another decade or two, they have made some progress in the two decades I have been here.
Disagree. At least some people are benefiting from the new online 90 reporting system which has got to be better than no-one benefiting from the system. It's a step in the right direction from immigration IMHO....
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Come on Sir!!!!
Get yourself an extension based on marriage instead, only 400K needed...
Glegolo
You can't once you've already been on a retirement visa i think. Perhaps someone could confirm this?
Not true.
I'm on a marriage extension currently and my last extension was based on retirement...no problem to alternate between the two
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Unfortunately for me, Kap Choeng does not accept mail-in 90 day reports, so if the online 90 day reporting doesn't work for me, it's a 250Km round trip and half a day of my time burned. I'll find out in approx 30 days.....
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My immigration office (Kap Choeng) told me last year when I renewed my extension that I had to do my 90 day reports there from now on. I previously did 90 day reports @ Korat because it's half the distance.....
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You can report by post,just copies of passport,or now I believe
on line, never done it that way yet but there have been reports
it can be done, the fine for failure to report is 500 THB per day
regards Worgeordie
There is no "500 Baht / Day fine" for not reporting the 90 days, (500 a day is for overstay) it is usually 1500 to 2000 baht all in, I paid 1200 for not reporting for 3 years ( I didn't know and no one told me).
I suspect that you are in fact a Macum, and not a Geordie, you can be paid 500 Baht a day just to live in Macumland!
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"Macum's" are, of course, massively "disadvantaged" and actively discouraged from entering "Geordieland" !
It's mackem not macum.....
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As already stated above by Ubonjoe & CharlieH requirements vary between provinces. This year I have an extension based on marriage and we got a visit from our immigration office to verify that our marriage was genuine, The IOs interviewed the Puyai ban & his helper who signed affidavits saying that we were indeed a genuine married couple. This was not my first marriage extension....In the last 6 years I've had 1 retirement extension, then 2 marriage extensions (and never got a home visit, or needed witnesses) then 2 retirement extensions and finally another marriage extension (which did have a home visit)....you can't play it on your fiddle....no complaints....just saying...also no questions about kids or the origins of our living expenses
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That's a bit below the belt.....
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I like to think of a O-A "long stay" visa as the Rolls Royce of visas.
That is because it takes longer to get, has more requirements, and the cost is higher than any other visa.
Generally that means:
- You have to get a police records check and a doctor's check before you get it.
- You need to get it (almost always) in your own home country.
- It takes longer to get the approval for that kind of visa (a lot like waiting for a Rolls, you can't just walk in and get one the same day)
- And getting one had more paperwork and such before you are approved for it. That is it is a "luxury" item.
I also don't remember the cost for the O-A visa but it is the most expensive visa.
For that expense and the time and effort of getting it the O-A visa gives you some definite advantages over all the other visas.
It gives you:
- Multiple entry to Thailand, with no restrictions. for the 1st year. No 90 day reporting required for that first year.
- For the 2nd year just exit and re-enter just before it expires on the 1st year, and on re-entry you get another automatic one year extension for the 2nd year. You do need to do 90 day reporting that 2nd year and in the 2nd year you do need to purchase an exit re-entry permit if you want to travel in and out of Thailand often.
But it is still less hassle with immigration than any other visa.... much like driving a Rolls around and getting the best service from parking attendants.
The disadvantage, of course, is the cost and effort required to get it in the first place... much like a Rolls.
Surely you have to do 90 day reports in the first year if you are in the kingdom for 90 consecutive days?????
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Where is your local immigration office Sheryl?
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As already indicated, getting an extension of stay based on marriage is not rocket science.....it's simple to achieve without involving lawyers....take anything you hear telling you otherwise with a pinch of salt....
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My 90 day report is due April 27 and I just tried to do it on-line using Internet Explorer. Couldn't get past the first page. Got a message to check with my local Immigration office. Any reports of on-line reporting working for Chiang Mai?
I thought this was too good to be true. Just another April Fools Joke, like the 7/11 reporting forecast in our CM Expats Club video.
It's not an April Fools joke....read the whole thread....
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A previous topic on this where a member's wife was fined for not filing (TM30) - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/816054-tm30-house-rent-who-has-to-fill-sign-deliver/?p=9287386#entry9287386
Though it seems to be rarely enforced, there is still a possibility for your wife being fined. The fact that it hasn't happened doesn't preclude that will always be the case even though small.
Yes, I've seen previous posts regarding this. The point i was trying to make is that my immigration office (Kap Choeng) is not strictly enforcing this policy....
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I've been living at our lasses house since August 2009 and she has never submitted a TM30 to immigration....
You're probably fine until you get caught, if that ever happens.
I don't know why one would even tempt the Thai government to make an issue of what I'm doing. I just report as I'm asked to report on what form they want me to use. Actually the Missus does all the paperwork as a 90 day report can be done by proxy.
I just show up for the annual permission of my retirement visa extension. Then I just sit back and come forward when I'm called to sign whatever I need to sign and I pay the THB 1,900.
Get caught for doing what?????
I report my address every 90 days to immigration and have never had a problem....
When I renew my extension of stay annually, I use our lasses house book and her ID card as proof of where I live....
Our lass always comes with me to immigration and we have never been asked for the TM30....
Another example of an "expert" who doesn't know what he is talking about....
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I've been living at our lasses house since August 2009 and she has never submitted a TM30 to immigration....
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My own personal opinion is that the new online 90 day reporting is the best thing since sliced bread.....I don't care if my next report is calculated from when I submit the online application or from when my last report was due or any other arbitrary date....This new system saves me a 250Km round trip 3-4 times a year and approx 2 days of my time...I can do the report from my own computer from my own home.....how can that be bad?
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After an encouraging first half performance under the new reign of DA, SAFC were comprehensively bladdered by a far superior (in the second half) Crystal Palace side......SAFC now sliding down into the brown & claggy......an old story....time for another miracle
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Its just not worth the risk doing it on line if you are close to immigration. I most certainly welcome being able to do it on line but I would want an instant email reply saying your report has been accepted. I see it takes a few days to get confirmation. If you do it on the due date and you get no confirmation you will be on late payment fine time. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
You can't do the report on line on the due date. It must be done within 15 days before the due date and not less than 7 days before the due date.
Edit: You beat me to it Joe...
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Reporting your address within 24 hours of arriving in Thailand is a rule which is rarely (if at all) enforced.
The TM30 is the responsibility of the property owner / housemaster..
Just wait for your first 90 day report and see if they ask for a TM30 to be completed.
I live at my wifes house and she has never filled in a TM30.
As Joe states above, it depends on your immigration office.
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Retirement Visa New Rules?
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It would be useful if posters could identify their designated immigration office when stating what they were asked to provide which would be helpful to those who have the same designated office...just my opinion of course