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It appears you did a bit of googling and (at least partially) copy-pasted whatever result suited what you wanted to say (as evidenced by the change in font and white background in the text, which only happens when copy-pasting from an external source). If you had had the humility and patience to get acquainted with the facts presented, you would know that the Jesuits were the driving force in establishing heliocentrism. This is what @DD86 meant when he said “Specially the Jesuits part in all this is important”. But you interpreted it as being a claim the Jesuits supported the flat Earth, which demonstrates that you have no idea who the Jesuits are, nor what the political and cultural context was at the time. I will take this opportunity to make a general comment on the dynamics of this thread: there are two opposing views on this matter and nobody is superior to anybody in this debate. If one doesn’t actually know what they are talking about, one takes a big risk (and risks damaging one’s credibility and relevance) by making assertive comments.

Please explain.

Nice jargon! Water doesn't curve.

Ouch, misunderstanding there… That's what happens when one "knows" without knowing.

Ah, well I know better than to challenge Those Who Know. Happy knowing!

There are seven lines of supporting argument after the quoted sentence.

1h42 is very little considering the wealth of information presented.

Please elaborate rationally.

Your point on water mass makes sense. Though Newton himself, and many detractors (especially in the 18th century) stressed that gravitation was merely a theory. That is absurd to me. A pull so great that it would force water to curve (a physically impossible phenomenon in any case) could not be overcome by a measly bird.

Good.

I could do a better job with GIMP. Where are the stars? (Off you go on Google – fear not, there is an official explanation.)

At leat he has the honesty to say he doesn't have a clue what gravity is. video_2024-12-25_20-16-24.mp4

I appreciate you having the honesty to follow your rationale all the way (most people don't) and admit that ultimately, what prevents you from going there is that you are not prepared to accept the scale of such a deception. I totally get it as I was in that position myself for a long time. The Overton window is shifting quickly on this issue, which has moved away from the fringes, from Elon Musks's troll comments on space footage "looking like fake CGI but definitely real" to Candace Owens claiming she has "broken away from the cult of science" and now totally open to alternative theories regarding the shape of the Earth. (I'm guessing I'm going to get at least 5 laughing emojis for this one.)

The "blue marble" is an invention and NASA has in fact never taken a picture of the entire planet Earth. Each one of the pictures released over the years is unequivocally altered and the inconsistencies are undeniable: But don't take my word for it, here is NASA data visualizer and designer Robert Simmon, creator of the "blue marble": In the existing cloud map some people have noticed a few repeating features that appear photoshopped. They are. There are gaps between orbits near the equator, and there’s no way to fill them with real data. Compositing separate images into a convincing whole is (of course) easier said than done. Even with control of each layer in my image processing software (Photoshop) it took hours of tweaking and re-tweaking transparency, layer masks, hue, saturation, gaussian blur, and curves to get an image that looked like the picture I had in my head. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/elegantfigures/2011/10/06/crafting-the-blue-marble/ The hard part was creating a flat map of the Earth’s surface with four months’ of satellite data. Reto Stockli, now at the Swiss Federal Office of Meteorology and Climatology, did much of this work. Then we wrapped the flat map around a ball. My part was integrating the surface, clouds, and oceans to match people’s expectations of how Earth looks from space. That ball became the famous Blue Marble. https://www.nasa.gov/people-of-nasa/robert-simmon-aka-mr-blue-marble/

I don’t give much credence to Newton’s theory of gravity. Density is, I believe, the most probable theory (to the smart*sses: yes,if I jump off a building I will crash to the ground, because my body is denser than the surrounding air). The gravity idea, just as the Earth curvature idea, is riddled with contradictions and absurdities. Newton himself, according to David Wardlaw Scott, confessed that the explanation of the moon's action on the tides did not fit well with his theory of gravitation, which asserts that the larger object attracts the smaller (but the mass of the Moon is only one-eighth of that of the Earth). Why are lakes not affected by tides? Gravity is strong enough to hold the oceans to a spinning ball, yet weak enough that birds can still fly?

I don't see how this contradicts the level plane model. Please elaborate.

The midnight sun makes more sense on a still, level plane (around which the sun circles) than on a globe circling the Sun. Simply because during the summer solstice, the Sun at its innermost cycle is circling tightly around the polar center and therefore remains constantly visible above the Horizon. Likewise, during that time in extreme Southern latitudes, the Sun disappears from view for over two months because it is circling the northern Center too tightly to be seen from the South.

That would be very interesting.

It's much more than 19.

There is certainly a group and peer pressure effect which will lead the herd to go along with the doxa, and rationality has actually little do do with it. It reminds me of that CIA experiment where 18 people were shown a picture of a triangle and 17 of them (actually CIA agents) said they saw a square and the last guy (the only guy who wasn't in on the experiment but he didn't know) would also say he saw a square despite clearly seeing a triangle, for fear of being the one standing out. There are plenty more testimonies of pilots and astronauts who, in confidence, will confirm that it is flat and stationary.

I encourage you to watch this whole video attentively.

The heliocentric model is expressed in rotational speed values, this is not a rotational vs. linear dichotomy (though both phenomenons are indeed distinguished). Let's look at this presentation of the model: What is the Rotational Speed of Earth in Miles? The rotational speed of the Earth in miles is approximately 1037 miles per hour at the equator. This means that at the equator, a point on the Earth's surface is moving through space at a speed of about 1037 miles per hour due to the planet's rotation on its axis. As we move towards the poles, the rotational speed gradually decreases, resulting in slower linear speeds at higher latitudes. What Would Happen If Earth Stopped Spinning? The idea of Earth suddenly stopping its rotation is a fascinating thought experiment. If such an event were to occur, the consequences would be catastrophic. The abrupt halt would send everything not attached to Earth hurtling eastward at high speeds, leading to devastating winds and tsunamis. https://testbook.com/geography/earth-rotation-speed#:~:text=The linear speed at the,(1037 miles per hour).

A very interesting interview by Admiral Byrd, after his expedition to the South Pole during which he spoke of an area of land as big as the US below the surface.

Your friends went to the small outlying enclave where tourism is allowed. My uncle went snowmobiling there. I'm talking about the actual mainland, and if you reserach it seriously, you will see it is virtually impossible to obtain the required permit and access it. What permits are needed for Antarctica? All human activities, whether for science or tourism, have to go through an Environmental Impact Assessment by a relevant Competent Authority/government agency. Critically, IAATO Member operators have agreed that their activities must have less than a minor or transitory impact on the environment. They submit permit applications annually to their Competent Authority/government agency and, if their planned activities meet all criteria, they are authorized and a permit granted. https://iaato.org/faqs/# The Antarctic Treaty https://iaato.org/about-iaato/the-antarctic-treaty/

Was Hugo Chavez Right About HAARP & The HAITI Earthquake? Is Weather Even Natural Anymore? The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), is an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative – ‘Star Wars’. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems around the world. https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/was-hugo-chavez-right-about-haarp-the-haiti-earthquake-is-weather-even-natural-anymore/