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Now that it is under control they are going to have to be super careful when it comes to international tourism. Especially from super Covid nations (highest number of infections) like the US, Brazil, Russia, Italy, Spain, Germany and the UK. My guess is nobody is coming in from any of those nations without a covid free letter (since you cannot get one in the US, may be a year or longer until another American is admitted into the Thailand) and possibly health insurance with a pandemic exception. Right now, the US is the most radioactive nation on earth, and it will be very difficult for Americans to travel just about anywhere overseas, for the next year or so. They will be treated as Zombies.

Perhaps a smart nation may step up as a "covid free letter nation", offering tests, and letters at a reasonable price. I would travel there to get one, because as an American, I may not be able to leave Thailand for the next year, and be able to get back in!

Much care needs to be taken. Thailand cannot afford another economic shutdown. It could throw the place into a years long economic depression. But, barring the issue related to incoming international tourists, everything should be re-opened immediately. Everything. All shops, all bars, every enterprise in the nation. This thing is under control, and the risk now, is not being able to ramp up the economy again, in any reasonable period of time, and having millions of people out of work, for extended periods of time. Let the people get back to work. The threat is over. The army needs to end their power trip, and consider the well being of the economy and the people. June 1st. Open up every business. At least the ones who have not been crippled, and are able to re-open. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of businesses may never be able to re-open, after this insane experiment in economic shutdown is over. It is an experiment for the rich and for government workers on a full salary!

5 hours ago, baansgr said:

Only takes 1...Look at South Korea what's happened...sudden outbreak and all schools closed immediatly. Cities in China on lockdown already because of 2nd wave....by all means open every thing up.....but bet ya bottom dollar numbers will spike within a week or so and we are back to square one.

Nope. Wrong. It is gone from Thailand. Only cases are people coming into the country. You can open the nation up 100% tomorrow, including all nightlife, and the number of cases will remain in the single digits, then fade into nothing. It is the foreigners who are about to be allowed back in, that is going to be the real challenge. 

Cambodia has already been more or less taken over by China. It is a past tense sort of place. We do not much care about Cambodia anymore. It is a "has been" ruled by a serial killing, thieving despot. 

6 minutes ago, ftpjtm said:

I agree fully. 

 

But I'd let the enforced 14 day quarantine in place, but expended to include foreigners. 

Only foreigners who recently entered Thailand. All people who enter from abroad have to be very carefully screened, especially from super toxic (very high infection numbers) nations like the US, Russia, Brazil, the UK, Spain, Italy, etc. 

Avoid Dunlop. They are inferior. Michelin are superior. Worth the extra money, as they provide alot of extra safety, last long and corner and brake very well. I use Pirelli, but not appropriate for a small scooter like a Click. When I used to drive a PCX, I always used Michelin. Great tires. Worth every baht. 

5 minutes ago, rabas said:

Lol, fake! Your bridge only goes half way, as does your point.

In this day and age of misinformation, fake news, deflection, toxic tweets, and bad behavior of those in power, halfway is pretty good! I will take it.

Everything should be re-opened immediately. June 1st, at the latest. Everything. All shops, all bars, every enterprise in the nation. This thing is under control, and the risk now, is not being able to ramp up the economy again, in any reasonable period of time, and having millions of people out of work, for extended periods of time. Let the people get back to work. The threat is over. The army needs to end their power trip, and consider the well being of the economy and the people. Open up every business. At least the ones who have not been crippled, and are able to re-open. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of businesses may never be able to re-open, after this insane experiment in economic shutdown is over. It is an experiment for the rich and for government workers on a full salary! Will take some time to see how this all shakes out, but it is my opinion that the economic fallout from the inane economic shutdown, is going to be 200 times worse than Covid itself, and the recovery "ramp up" will be long and excruciating. Far longer than they say. It will not just bounce back. In the history of the world, as far as we know, there has never been a deliberate worldwide economic shutdown. It is light years beyond dumb.

The "slowdown" will last well into 2021, for certain. And some industries may never come back, or will be a pale shadow of their former selves. No doubt homelessness will skyrocket in the US. Tourism in Thailand will never recover to even close to it's former levels, and that leaves millions out of work. Not only here, but worldwide. What about concerts? Will people be willing to hang out with crowds of 20,000, at a cost of hundreds of dollars for a crappy seat? Same with sports. Will people be willing to go into a stadium or an arena with 20,000 to 100,000 people close together, and pay crazy money for a seat? Movie theaters? Cruise ships? Will the hordes just start descending on restaurants again, and pay inane prices for a gourmet meal? The list goes on, and on and on. And in the end, hundreds millions worldwide could end up far poorer than they were before. And tens of millions could end up starving to death, compared to perhaps 100,000 or so total deaths worldwide from Covid. OK. The rich stay safe and financially secure. And the rest of us? And those of us who are self employed, without fortunes in the bank? 

And tourism is not returning to Thailand anytime soon. If you think about it, the group that comprised perhaps 60% of all arrivals (lower to middle income Chinese and Indians) are the ones who have been hardest hit by this idiotic worldwide economic shutdown. Tourism in Thailand will never recover to even close to it's former levels, and that leaves millions out of work. Most countries will still be required to have Covid letters, as the virus is still raging in many countries. And some countries will not issue that letter (impossible to get in the US). Plus, will the mandatory health insurance still be required? Will the policies require a pandemic exception? Will it be even stricter than before? And just what are people returning to? Presently, Koh Samui looks like bombed out version of it's former self, with hundreds of businesses shuttered or gone forever. There are so many unanswered questions, it boggles the mind. One thing is for certain. Thailand will be feeling the effects of this for a very, very long time. So will the rest of the world. 

Everything should be re-opened immediately. Everything. All shops, all bars, every enterprise in the nation. This thing is under control, and the risk now, is not being able to ramp up the economy again, in any reasonable period of time, and having millions of people out of work, for extended periods of time. Let the people get back to work. The threat is over. The army needs to end their power trip, and consider the well being of the economy and the people. June 1st. Open up every business. At least the ones who have not been crippled, and are able to re-open. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of businesses may never be able to re-open, after this insane experiment in economic shutdown is over. It is an experiment for the rich and for government workers on a full salary! 

7 hours ago, honcho said:

theyve earned my trust by standing up to the exporters of the wuhan virus !

Wow. If all it takes is making a few nasty statements, to gain your trust, after decades of massive worldwide deceptions, assassination attempts, betrayals, and bloodbaths, can I sell you a bridge? It is a lovel 2,766 meter suspension bridge, that earns $234,000 per day in tolls. I can offer it to you for only $800,000. Three days income. Sound ok? Can I send my bank info. Or, do you actually want details? 

It would appear nearly all the new cases are being brought in from overseas or across the border and immediately being quarantined. How are they determining this? Are they being tested? A simple temperature check? Or?

5 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

is laying bricks for a living the only notable skill to have?  I have never laid a brick, but still had a reasonable successful and fulfilling career? Was I remiss in not telling my kids to take a brick laying course before University? ????

Apparently, if we cannot lay bricks, we ain’t worth nuttin!

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

This is me .......... took Thailand 1 year to teach me better.

 

But unlike the OP there's nothing I would care about any family/friends/employers knowing.

I'm in Thailand, what do they think I'm doing? 

When people ask, (and they have their usual suspicions) I tell them I am a student of archeology. That the area I am most passionate about is Sukhothai and Ayutthayan portico designs on temples. There are hundreds of well preserved temples to study! Particularly interested in temples from the late 13th century to the late 16th century. 

They give me this look. Really? Wow. I had no idea. How unique. I never knew. Fascinating. Tell me more!

What percentage of ex-pats who have families here have permanent resident status? And what restrictions will they face, upon their return?

What can one even say? If a relationship is not working out, what real men do is discuss things, and try to deal with the issues. And if it cannot be fixed, or if it is beyond repair, or you are not making each other a better version of each other, you move on. He is fairly young, and had a whole life in front of him. Not anymore. He has done the unthinkable. He has basically self revoked the right to consume oxygen. In my book, if it is proven that he did commit this act, he should be put away for decades. I am sure he will make alot of good friends in prison. I hear they really take a liking to guys who abuse their wives. It is likely in his new prison home, he will be able to find fights that are far more fair.