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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

You are aware that this is potentially fatal for people in their 20's, 30's, and 40's. People who are healthy with no underliying medical issues have succumed.

People who are likely obese, eat a terrible diet or are otherwise susceptible. It is all about the body's natural immunity. Even young people have compromised systems. Heavy drinkers, heavy smokers, heavy people, and other factors. Age alone tells a very small part of the story. 

It is likely that this administration will only listen to the booze industry lobbyists. Money talks. So, hopefully they will be able to talk some common sense into these guys. After all, now many nations worldwide imposed an alcohol ban? Greenland, South Africa and one province in France. And Thailand. What can one even say? Punish the people with a lockdown, and a curfew, and then deny us the comfort of a drink. I am not a big drinker, but I am also not a big fan of Uncle Somchai telling me what I can and cannot do, and telling me that having a drink somehow puts the nation in jeopardy. Yes, I have heard all the social distancing stuff. All of that can easily be applied, and common sense can be applied too. 

2. Controlled: Low-risk businesses are allowed to reopen and some international travel allowed, resulting in 40 to 70 new infections daily (bringing the total confirmed cases to around 4,661 in June which is acceptable);

3. Outbreak: No measures in place for both domestic and international travel resulting in uncontrolled transmissions with 500 to 2,000 new cases found daily (bringing the total number of confirmed cases to around 45,596 by June or July).

This is a stunning degree of nonsense, and panic mongering. If Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin (spokesperson for the government’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration) were not a government official (meaning he is above the law) I would suggest having him arrested and imprisoned for his stupendously irresponsible predictions of the number of potential new cases. First of all, new international travel would never be allowed at this stage, without significant screening, and prevention measures in place, health certificates showing the passengers have been certified as Covid free, etc. So, that makes these numbers even more inane, alarming, panic inducing, apocalyptic, and beyond stupid. 

Extending the lockdown at this point is a power grab by the administration, and is absolutely punitive to the Thai people. They have already demonstrated their unwillingness to help these folks, with the insufficient aid plan, which had over an 80% rejection rate. If they were serious, they would simply require a Thai ID. You show up, present your ID, and get your check. Or better yet, your cash.

4 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Fully Agree with this. The time has come. What people are forgetting is that if social distancing measure are being practiced, the spread of the virus will be limited. These social distancing measures have been implemented too late in many countries, hence the enormous spike in cases back in say Europe and the US. When the curve has been flattened, it is time to gradually re-open countries, but leave social distancing measures firmly in place. yes, there will be new cases, but the steep curve should not happen with these mitigation measures firmly in place. Thailand's numbers certainly indicate the curve is flat. 

Absolutely correct. And also the incubation phase is well past. We had millions of tourists here in January and February, similar to Italy. Yet, it never blew up here. Personally, I think it was well managed, and the heat and humidity, combined with the Vitamin D we get through our skin (that has been proven to promote immunity) helped alot. If this thing was going to blow up, it would have happened 4-6 weeks ago. Let it go. This is not the zombie apocalypse. Covid is nearly gone from Thailand. Time to get back to work. It is only fair to the Thai people. They need this. Extending this shutdown would be punitive for them, and cause alot more suffering, and perhaps make the "economic startup" far more difficult. 

I would love to learn Seagal's "slap em a hundred times with both hands in under one minute" technique. It looks very useful. Also alot of fun to watch! Amazing that this guy is still doing two or three films a year. All straight to streaming, I guess. 

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

It is now being reported that CAAT has extended the ban on incoming international flights through end of May.

That makes total sense. Thailand is well insulated and the numbers are wonderfully low. The rest of the world looks likes Zombieland in comparison. Why risk that? And who would be coming anyway? Likely only returning Thais and a few expats, and the restrictions would be significant. 

Many are now suggesting that by isolating people within their homes, they are eliminating any resistance to the virus, weakening immune systems, and creating a likely scenario for a second wave. I happen to think a lot of what these doctors are saying is accurate, and makes sense. Especially, if like me, you believe that the damage done by the worldwide economic lockdown, will be 200 times worse than the virus itself. 

A voice of reasoning in the wilderness of panic and fear of the zombie apocalypse. What they are saying makes total sense. There is an astonishing amount of bad information out there, and alot of medical personnel who do not know what they are working with, are unwilling to break normal influenza protocol (therefore killing alot of people, inadvertently) and listening to Fauci, the CDC, the FDA, and the WHO way too much, and not thinking outside the box, and dancing on their feet. As this guy says, theory and reality are not always the same.  

https://www.facebook.com/KGET17News/videos/537566680274166/

Kudos to him for stepping up. Although they were rather vague about the rest of the super rich within Thailand. I wonder how many are really putting their money where their mouths are? Anyone heard any stories of others?

Charoen Pokphand Group patriarch Dhanin Chearavanont, Thailand’s richest man with a net worth of US$14.1 billion (456.8 billion baht), has spent Bt100 million of that money to build a factory making 100,000 free surgical masks per day for healthcare workers. Several of Dhanin’s wealthy peers have also donated expensive medical equipment for the treatment of Covid-19 patients, particularly ventilators and negative pressure isolation rooms.

22 hours ago, treetops said:

Hotels.  At Government expense.  If you believe this from the site we're not allowed  to quote:

 

The Public Health Ministry would initially pay for the accommodation of returnees at hotels and the Defence Ministry would help sponsor it later, he said. In the future, there might be different classes of quarantine hotels for returnees who could afford to pay, he said.

There is no question that this pertains only to Thai returnees. Why would the government pay for a returned ex-pat? They do very little to support us, and if anything they seem to want us to leave. 

Where are you coming from? Nobody from the US will be able to get into Thailand in May. Likely no American tourists until this is over. At the very minimum you would have to have a Covid free health letter, and that is impossible to get in the US. Maybe some other countries may provide them. But, they will likely continue to be required for some time, and you will likely face a mandatory quarantine of 14 days in a hospital, if you are allowed in so soon. At your expense. And I have not heard of any plans to allow incoming international tourist flights next month. Have you? 

2 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

what do you know is accurate or not?  Your opinion is no more valid than anybody else's

You did not answer my questions. They are common sense questions. 

58 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I know why the price dropped, it is because I bought $60,000 US of BP a few months ago at what I thought was a good price and solid dividend.  I collected one quarter's dividend, sold some covered calls and things were looking good.  Now it is down 30% on paper value.  I won't sell it though.  The USA demand will pick up as the summer time rolls around. 

Not even close to being accurate. How many family vacations do you really think will happen this summer? How many Americans traveling to Paris? The only thing that will drive demand this summer will be more use of air conditioning. And most of those will be powered by power plants using a mix of renewables, coal, and some natural gas (38%). BP might tick up from it's current levels, but do not count on a big jump anytime soon. 

15 hours ago, SunsetT said:

I think they think that food brought onto the plane could  be 'takeaway' and therefore possibly infected by the food vendor.

And how would that effect anyone on the plane, other than the passenger who was eating it? How is that making anyone safer? I understand the whole mask concept. That is a reasonable argument. 

In this day and age, is 1% really considered a slump? The Thai economy is going to take a huge hit from this virus. Tourism is going to take a very long time to recover. Think about it. Thailand has become dependent on the group of people who will be hit the hardest. The lower to middle income folks. The wealthy, who will come out of this just fine, barely come here anymore, for a dozen good reasons. So, how much of this will effect the stock market, the real estate market, and the economy in general? Quite alot, I would presume. 

4 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Thailand has its very own way to deal with crisis, and somehow emerge on top of it.

 

Remember the children locked in the cave not so long ago.

 

For some time, it looked like a circus over there, and yet in the end they got the perfect score...and luck had nothing to do with it...they just made the right decisions when it mattered...

I am often hesitate to heap praise on the Thai army, but they seem to have got it right this time, and kudos to them for that. Also, the medical system here is good, and there are alot of very dedicated doctors and nurses, and they do not seem constrained by the insane, and highly ineffective CDC, FDA, and WHO protocols, which do not seem to be particularly effective for Covid-19. This strain requires imagination, open mindedness, willingness to try new things, and willingness to completely abandon protocols which are killing people, such as the insane misuse of ventilators, resulting in morbidity of up to 90%.

What is the very definition of stupidity and convention? Continuing to do something that fails nearly every time.