cusanus

On 9/8/2018 at 11:29 AM, Thailand said:

Just 3 posts before yours.

From the thread nearly everyone has missed.

 

"Briefly, we were informed Immigration will relocate to their new facilities near the airport on 24 September. At this stage all services will be moved. Queuing has been an issue of late due to resourcing problems. In the new facility they are planning to reinstate on line queue reservation system, improvements to 90 day on line reporting (a Bangkok system problem) are anticipated and for the new facility parking arrangements are to be available across the road at the spa facility."

 

That must be why they call me the prophet! ?

Years ago at the Airport office there were dozens of free, open spaces to park across the street, then it was gated shut, but there still seems to be plenty of parking available there if the owners would allow it. Hardly worth mentioning, but maybe they will free that up again or charge a nominal fee. Sometimes I have to laugh and sometimes despair over all the backbiting on this site. This is what farang culture is like back home, a nightmare of little beasties getting on each others' backs. I love Thailand because people are generally very friendly and the peace of mind is worth a ton of gold. With any luck I'll live out my days here in bliss, but can always log on to Thai visa for a freak show or a reminder of what I'm missing. Anyway, I've never suffered a day using Immigration services during my 13 years here. Despite some occasional long lines and crowding, the service has always been reasonably efficient and prompt. I love seeing the great friends I've made there and taking the opportunity to spend a day in the city shopping and enjoying the sights.  

17 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Suggest you have a look at this link

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1053494-is-there-a-time-limit-of-stay-for-whose-who-have-stayed-in-thailand-for-above-100-days-consecutively/?page=4

 

Thanks. Makes a lot more sense now. Or not! ?

One big GAP in my understanding that one of you experts might close up. Used to be a person could extend a tourist visa ad infinitum, so there were many young people who had stayed in Thailand for years. Then you could extend a one month only twice, but you could still go to Laos and extend that way and get two more extensions. But how does it go now? Suppose a person gets a 30 day tourist visa, extends twice, then has to wait another year it would seem. But can he still just go to Laos or another foreign city and extend again? Can't seem to figure this out, maybe too many changes, but just how long can an ordinary bloke stay in Thailand using a tourist visa / extension at this point in time? Or is that a stupid question? 

On 8/17/2018 at 9:16 AM, Sparkles said:

The receipt that is returned to you ,in the SAF envelope you provide ,always carries the above address stamped on  the front by them .Well at least mine do for as long as I can remember.

Hmmm, then I guess I've been wasting time putting it there myself! HA!

17 hours ago, FredLee said:

TIme for the annual pilgrimage for my extension of stay, so took all my documents to the visa agent upstairs at the Prom. They did ask for documentation to back up the income verification letter. Said the "new" boss requires it. Provided them copies of of each of my retirement income statements. I also had copies of three months of bank statements showing the deposits into my account, but they said the other documents were enough.

Seems like there was a big argument about that recently. 

On 7/22/2018 at 5:24 PM, scottiejohn said:

What lull in a storm?

It has been foul weather at CM IMM for over 20 years.  A new building will solve nothing until;

1.  Consistent rules applied by ALL Imm  officials in all Imm offices Thailand wide.

2.  More Imm officers/staff not just new and bigger offices.

3. More efficient and computerised/online systems.

4. Less hindrance to the officials by "do gooders" who do more harm than good.

My bad.

A lull in the storm... any word on when the airport new building will open? That means no more Promenada I guess. 

3 hours ago, Sparkles said:

The petrol station is on a winner.He can obviously up the parking fee in line with demand.The adjoining lot to Imm was an option but they closed the gate permanently well before Imm departed. Opening that again, which appears to be still vacant, could help.Could well be financially viable to charge a fee.

The large lot in front of the museum just across the street used to be open and free with tons of vacant parking. Now it's closed. I would hope they could work something out. If not, we'll just have to buck up. 

If you get a new passbook after reporting the original stolen, does it have a new account number or the old number?

1 minute ago, timendres said:

Your allusions are of a serious enough nature, that your concerns seem valid. If the person in question had any convictions of this nature, they would almost certainly be escorted from the country. In this case, I suspect you would need to communicate the information to immigration - possibly best done by a Thai agent. Short of that, you need to be vigilant, and act when appropriate.

Thank you. Of course, I was referring to situations where victims are in serious peril, not necessarily for that reason but any serious risk being posed. What concerns me is the victim's disadvantage due to the language barrier, perhaps also a lack of sophistication in some police departments though I have utmost respect for the police. Indeed, it isn't easy to report a crime in the states as far as that goes.  In no way either am I suggesting unnecessary hardship for anyone.  

10 minutes ago, catman20 said:

yes the OP sounds like a rat.........................we all know what happens to rats

It's a common perception that many criminals come to Thailand to ply their trade where it's less likely that they be caught. This is especially true of pedophiles. Mr. Swirl was the best known example and was only caught because he published photos and videos of such acts on the internet where Interpol couldn't help but notice. So, you think exposing Mr. Swirl was the work of a rat. That's interesting. The question boils down to a question of safety, and you suggest that I would be rightly harmed for raising that question. 

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

A person could be deported for illegal entry under this clause of section 12 of the immigration act.

That's interesting, though where the line is drawn is hard to see. Thanks. 

Just a hypothetical. Interesting answers, though. 

The BIG question is this.  suppose someone is here on tourist visa or extended tourist visa and causing trouble. Is it possible to have them deported if they have a criminal record in the states? Anyone know anything about that?  The local police don't seem to be on top of those things, but then where can this be reported? Or does it even matter?   

Oh, and another thing? Suppose the person has taken up residence for weeks without a TM28 or TM30, no permission from an owner or house holder?

Thanks for any good answers. 

A question I'd really like answered... suppose someone is here on tourist visa or extended tourist visa and causing trouble. Is it possible to have them deported if they have a criminal record in the states? Anyone know anything about that? 

Got there at 6:30, near end of a long line, quite different than used to but this must be the zero dark (not so bright) situation. They were going to take only five more, so we made it just in time, also got a priority status approved. Would have been out by about 10:30, but forgot to do the bank letter. They've gotten touchy about people gaming the system it seems. Anyway, it wasn't a very hard day as usual. If it had just been myself I'd have come about 4:00AM, why not, I don't mind killing a little time and very much enjoy the ride. What I don't enjoy too much is all the carping and back biting on this forum. Figures, though, because these are typical of the nasty attitudes back home that I came to Thailand to get away from. It must be the genes and not the water.  

11 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

I was there for an "appointment" to get a visa conversion.  Imm set the time specifically for 2pm.  I think the poster that talked about 6:30 was there to queue for a retirement extension (the queue that mixes students and retirees). 

 

Just a note about "frail, elderly", Imm seems to have "priority lines" for this (see picture of sign I saw at Promenanda).

 

Sorry your quote of my post got you busted ?

Haha, THANKS, I'd forgotten. Will be there this morning. 

3 hours ago, NancyL said:

Something about arriving early in the dark...

my post was removed because of the quote, oh well, but just how early were you talking about? And if a frail, elderly lady with a walker might get a break? Someone recently posted that he arrived at 6:30 and all went well. Khosimada went in the afternoon, I don't quite understand that, but it's a different route for visa conversions I guess. 

5 minutes ago, Dante99 said:

Terrible isn't it.  Students are so clearly a lower class of people than retirees. <deleted>?

Not the point. They aren't as durable is all. 

3 hours ago, amexpat said:

Duh, de last time I reentered LOS was last spring. I've done a retirement permission to stay renewal and three 90 days since. Yup, I'm very proud to be so dumb. 

I give up! You were born under the brightest star. We could never hope to be so bloody lucky!

Looks like the turtle wins the race and all the smart alecks have fled into the night. Thank you Kohsamida for explaining so well what the instructions state and for having verified it with your experience. Congrats for making it through the hoops.  

8 hours ago, amexpat said:

"First, if you're already in Thailand, you MUST have a TM30 stub stapled near the last page of your passport."

        I don't have one. Never in 10 years.

 

"you MUST have a photocopy of the owners Thai ID card and owner's house book (his/her proof of ownership)"

        Never had that but I did get a certificate of residency twice.

 

"if you don't the OWNER must accompany you ASAP to Immigration"

        Nope.

 

I MUST be a lucky guy. 

Read the instructions. So you don't have a TM30 stub? Many don't, and the law wasn't enforced 10 years ago, but now it is. Times have changed. I've been through the TM30 procedure many times. If the owner is registered such as a hotel, it doesn't need to be in person. For me and my friends, the owner (my wife in my case) had to go in person with their Thai ID and fill in the form as many have found out. Again, read the document, this is what he's being told to do. If you don't have the TM30 then you could be denied the visa and most likely will be fined 1600 baht. You're not a lucky guy, just arrogant and not very bright. The TM30 MUST be stamped within 24 hours. Read the law. So often as in your case it isn't, and many people don't bother, but when you're applying for a visa you are likely to be turned down if it isn't. The owner has to show proof of ownership. Read the instructions, then read Kohsimada's post, and maybe save yourself a hassle when you get your next extension. For him, the TM30 was required. But not for you, you're a lucky guy. Damn. 

23 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

23 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

Ya know, if you guys who are replying in such a negative way don't want to provide any useful information, that's fine but please don't insinuate I should not be concerned by this information sheet that IMM gave me when I made my appointment.  It is DIFFERENT than what they told me and showed me while in their office.  So, naturally I am a little concerned!

All right, I've really offended you, not remembering your problem as thought it had been answered well. I've done the conversion several times myself, just not within Thai borders, but it shouldn't differ. Let us focus on the #2 and #3 of the Residence Document instructions that you seem to indicate is the cause of your confusion. First, if you're already in Thailand, you MUST have a TM30 stub stapled near the last page of your passport. Now I remember, been here, done that. Next, for a permanent visa more is needed. You MUST have a lease/rental agreement for a permanent residence, RIGHT? Get one if you don't. That will NOT necessarily suffice, so you MUST have a photocopy of the owners Thai ID card and owner's house book (his/her proof of ownership). Go to your owner and GET THOSE NOW. The owner should know exactly what they are and supply them readily. #4, the TM30 you're supposed to have, but if you don't the OWNER must accompany you ASAP to Immigration upstairs at Promenada and bring those same documents. Savvy? And if you don't have the TM30 stub stapled in your passport, you will pay I believe 1600 baht. This is abundantly clear in the instructions, so I'm not sure if I've done any better. Everybody has to jump through those same hoops. Try it now. 

On 6/9/2018 at 10:10 AM, Kohsamida said:

Exactly.  Both of my sticking points make no sense to me and probably will turn out to be unimportant.  Nonetheless, I can’t afford to have my application rejected because im missing something.  

By now the thread has gotten stale, though memory seems that you're questions were answered. You sure don't need a house book for a visa extension, just a TM30 stamp, which you said you had. Have signed copies of your passport, a couple of photos ready, whatever else has been mentioned, then relax.