pastitche

the time line was to plant the trees within three months but as is often the case people half way read it and then posted a bunch of nonsense about the trees being mature in three months....

Even the planting of trees in 3 months is pretty ridiculous considering it still needed to be decided where to plant the trees, and the saplings needed to be sourced ... and then the trees needed to be planted.

The question is where were the BIB? They were charged with the events security and yet despite vigilante resistance the red shirt rioters managed to get in, clear the resort and eat the buffet. Miracle Thailand, where terrorists dreams do come true..

I've often thought it should be a Democrat policy that after winning an election, they would declare martial law, fire every BIB, give them the option of appearing before a public-welcome corruption committee to reapply for their job, and start the BIB from scratch with higher pay and very strict corruption penalties. Should be a landslide win.

makes completely irrelevant...ahem 'joke'..... and laughs hysterically to himself.

definitely deluded.

That would have been delusive or delusional.

de·lu·sive adjective

1. tending to delude; misleading; deceptive: a delusive reply.

2. of the nature of a delusion; false; unreal: a delusive belief.

de·lu·sion·al adjective

1. having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions:

Senators who think they will get agreement on a comprehensive tax bill are delusional.

2. Psychiatry . maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts,

usually as a result of mental illness:

He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought everybody was conspiring against him.

"The guy was crouched behind a garbage bin and then he's on the ground looking like he's been shot in the back. Who shot him?"

<deleted>, it was the Red Shirt behind him!

Oh come on please, for once get over this army good red shirt bad thing and look at the evidence in front of your eyes.

Maybe you can explain how he goes from crouching behind the garbage bin to being on the ground shot in the back. To be shot by the army in front of him he would have had to stand up and turn around. I wonder why they didn't show him being shot in the video. Why would they have cut that out?

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OK I'm intrigued what on earth makes you think he was shot in the back?

Oh, maybe the blood in the middle of his back. Unless you're suggesting a bullet went straight through him while he was crouched behind the bin.

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It's the same with most big forums. 99% junk from a few prolific posters who have nothing better to do than sit at home and moan about life on the internet. You wouldn't pay them a blind bit of notice in the real world (which is why they come online), so why bother on here. There is good stuff to, but it takes a lot of wading.....

I've never come online. Am I missing something?

Foreigners living in, or visiting Thailand, and surrounded by people speaking a language alien to them, have few places in daily life to vent their frustrations to people who get them, unlike at home where they are able to deal with it as their day progresses. For this reason you will see a higher amount of venting here than is normal, as living in a foreign environment has its challenges, and this forum is often their only outlet.

Other people are just miserable &@!!?!!s.

A person becomes cynical when they are lied to repeated and they begin to doubt anything being said to them, questioning the validity of said information. Considering that lying is a fundamental Thai trait used to save face, is it any wonder people are cynical about anything Thai related?

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and Pheu Thai Party leader Yongyuth Wichaidit, who is a deputy prime minister, did not take part in the debate

Is she EVER there?

Since you stopped the quote just before the bit that says "but they voted in support of the three bills" suggests that they were.

OK, I'll rephrase. Does she EVER say anything?

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and Pheu Thai Party leader Yongyuth Wichaidit, who is a deputy prime minister, did not take part in the debate

Is she EVER there?

It's better to not show up for work and appear to be an incompetent than to go to work and remove all doubts.

]My problem with Bendix's post quoted was his attitude which is always supercilious; the anonymity that a forum such as this provides frequently provides the bully with the opportunity to demean others. I cannot accept that

Get over yourself, princess. It's a discussion forum.

But thanks for your constructive criticism and feedback. I will take it on board, consider it carefully, and then promptly ignore it.

Hi all.

My friend in England paid for many years for a private pension with a large insurance company, , The deal was he paid a large sum every month and he would get 35,000 pound at age 65 and approx 250 pound per week,

When he was approaching 65 the news was on every day predicting doom and gloom for his pension provider company,

When he became due his pension , his lump sum dropped from 35.000 to 11.000 and his promised 250 per week became 60 per week, He told me that all together he had paid in more than 60 ,000 pound over the years,and wish he never bought it.

He had no legal recourse at the time, He knows that he and many thousand of other pensioners were well and truly shafted,.

phupaman

Then he didnt have a clue what he was buying. I suspect he wasn't 'told'he would get 35000 plus 250 per week. Instead, he would have been shown models that projected that amount based on certain assumptions to do with market performance of the underlying assets.

If he took his pension when the markets collapsed (during a sharemarket slump for example) that would affect his return. If he chose to realise the pension at that time rather than wait for a recovery, that's his choice.

I'm sorry but too many people complain about being shafted by pensions when what has really happened is that they simply either don't know or don't care or are too lazy to understand and actively monitor the most important financial decision of their lives.

I'm sorry too that you seem unable to post anything other than patronising, demeaning and frankly insulting responses, based apparently on "I suspect he wasn't told..." and "He didn't have a clue....".

It seems that if he had understood what he was buying, then he would have known and understood the market risks to which he was exposed. Assuming that the person that sold him the pension product complied with the law in force, then (depending on when the pension was sold) he would have given examples of what the policy might return, given certain assumptions on investment performance (assumptions, I think, which are defined by the code of practice).

Some people seem all too ready to take offence where none was offered, which seems somewhat churlish, in my view.

Another point to raise is that as well as the disappointing performance of the investments, annuity rateshave dropped - partly due to lower returns on investments, but also due to increased longevity and changes in actuarial life expectancy

SC

Hi all.

My friend in England paid for many years for a private pension with a large insurance company, , The deal was he paid a large sum every month and he would get 35,000 pound at age 65 and approx 250 pound per week,

When he was approaching 65 the news was on every day predicting doom and gloom for his pension provider company,

When he became due his pension , his lump sum dropped from 35.000 to 11.000 and his promised 250 per week became 60 per week, He told me that all together he had paid in more than 60 ,000 pound over the years,and wish he never bought it.

He had no legal recourse at the time, He knows that he and many thousand of other pensioners were well and truly shafted,.

phupaman

Then he didnt have a clue what he was buying. I suspect he wasn't 'told'he would get 35000 plus 250 per week. Instead, he would have been shown models that projected that amount based on certain assumptions to do with market performance of the underlying assets.

If he took his pension when the markets collapsed (during a sharemarket slump for example) that would affect his return. If he chose to realise the pension at that time rather than wait for a recovery, that's his choice.

I'm sorry but too many people complain about being shafted by pensions when what has really happened is that they simply either don't know or don't care or are too lazy to understand and actively monitor the most important financial decision of their lives.

I'm sorry too that you seem unable to post anything other than patronising, demeaning and frankly insulting responses, based apparently on "I suspect he wasn't told..." and "He didn't have a clue....".

GK

Whoever added the 'Great' to Britain was obviously a marketing whizz. The title had people fooled for centuries.

Britain obtain it"s " great" for ruling 1/2 the world with 400.000 soldiers. Through brutality, yes. But then look through history. To coin a phase, what did the Romans ever do for us. When our young lads died in World War 1 and 2, so went the great out of Britain. They must be turning in their graves to look at our nation now. And that goes for the Americans, Canadians, Austalians, New Zealanders,Indians and Nepalese who fought for the world we live in today or should be living in but don"t because politicians think they know more than the young lads who put their lives before their country. A few people are old skool and proud of it. They put the Great back where it belongs. GREAT BRITAIN.

And I have always thought that it was to distinguish us from Brittany - both were "British" ie lands occupied by Brythonic tribes and one was bigger than the other, so Bretagne and Grande Bretagne but that might have been a gallic ruse.

to the blether,

things must of got a lot worse in Glasgow.....your the first Scot who i have read or heard say they are a Brit.

Ask anyone in the UK their nationality and they will identify with their respective country (apart from those from Northern Ireland). However in places such as Thailand where the term United Kingdom means nothing, British is a useful shorthand but one which I personally would only use in official circumstances.

blether [ˈblɛðə]

vb & n

Scot a variant spelling of blather

[from Old Norse blathra, from blathr nonsense]

1. blether

(ble-thir) dialect, chiefly scot.

~n. 1. person who chatters incessantly; one who babbles on and on.

~v. 2. to engage in conversation, long-winded or idle talk

1- ("That wee yin o' yours is an awfy blether gettin'")

2- ("Ah met yer granny doon the toun, we hud a richt guid blether the gither")

Say no more

Sorry OP but..... LOL.

Brits whinge in the UK about the weather, the England team etc, get used to it we all know best, here the weather is ok so we have to find something else, nothing is every perfect, nowhere is ver perfect but we still strive for perfection it is our way that is why we ruled over 1/3rd of the world and they took on a lot of we taught them, whingeing brings change, hopefully, to the benefit of all, but not sadly for expat pensioners living in Thailand.( no annual increasaes )

Now accept that, salute our armed forces, who are the best in the world and lets have a rousing rendition of "Jerusalem" and have beer a off to bed!

Sorry Exeter but you started to sound like an English sports commentator. Enjoy your beer - I am just about to have another!

So that 's why my bankcardreader never made it to me from Europe

ALCOHOL..... the mother of most evils. iafter few years of living here i can say that most of the time i saw idiot farangs get into trouble is because of alcohol. if it is driving drunk, getting into fights, not paying the bar's bill, etc.

Bring your brain with you.

Do some basic research into Thailand and Thai customs.

Leave your bad attitude behind.

Chill out, relax. Life is way to short

Regards drinking.....

Drink is not the problem, it is the person. Why does everyone blame it on the drink??

I have had a skinful of drink many times in many places in the world and I have not caused any fights or trouble.

I see people drink and cause problems but I also see many who go out for 4 or 5 hours drinking and stay happy.

That is where the attitude comes in. I live in a seriously rough and tumble part of Glasgow, Bridgeton. The Scots on tv know that the rules of combat in Bridgeton just like many other parts of Glasgow are brutal.

When I fly in to Thailand the last thing I want to see or hear is fighting talk. I recognize also that the rules of combat in Thailand are equally brutal.

These tin pot gangsters and ex-sas that infest a lot of tourist areas just don't have a clue what they are messing with.

These days I gravitate towards Thai economy restaurants and bars. There are many outstanding places out there where your not going to get your ears melted by some malcontent gangster wannabe.

ALCOHOL..... the mother of most evils. iafter few years of living here i can say that most of the time i saw idiot farangs get into trouble is because of alcohol. if it is driving drunk, getting into fights, not paying the bar's bill, etc.

When visiting Thailand remember this is not the same as the country you came from, this country has the rule of law the same as any other, many people come here either thinking or believing they can do whatever they want without consequences, I saw this a lot when I was in the navy and I see it a lot with the tourists that come here. Poeple have had sex on the train (in the bunk above my head), tourists have swapped info on where to get the best drugs (on the same train), I have seen falangs stumbling down the road in a drunken stupor yelling abuse at everyone they come across. People who come here assuming there is no rule of law and have a devil may care attitude not only endanger themselves, they also give all falangs a bad name. The law here may be more flexible than most other places, and fines may be payable on the spot, but people can only push their arm so far into the dogs mouth before it bites.

Sorry about the top bunk thing, I didn't realize there was a rule against it.

I'll get the bottom bunk next time.

No one coming to defend the ladt's honour?

It would appear she is not cheating on her mate,

but possibly she is cheating the whole nation.

What does honor have to do with it?

You will see they were brought into the discussion by Rubl he was making the link with the pro government organised marches..........my response was to state they had evolved to where they are now.....if they have not evolved to where they are now.....I stand corrected......

I don't know how you can justify using "where they are now" as a reason for Thailand to go through what they did to get there.

Would the new riots be a ploy to demand his return?

I'd like to tell you about a completely personal experience that might in some way reflect Thai values and reactions to this kind of problem.

My wife's young cousin suffered from severe epilepsy, at times up to 6 seizures a day. He was effectively a foundling in the family because his mother became seriously schizophrenic soon after his birth, so he was raised by female relatives with little contact with his father or siblings.

Soon after I came here the family decided that the best thing that could be done for the young man was for him to enter the monkhood in a temple where traditional Thai medicine was practised; as a newcomer I offered no opinion on this since I know nothing about those kinds of therapies.

However soon after his entry to the monkhood it became clear that what the family were hoping for was not happening; he became delusional believing that he had been invaded by the spirit of an ancient warrior king.

Instead of accepting that this was either epileptic psychosis or schizophrenia, the family appeared to take it at face value and the response was to accept the advice of what I would call a "shaman" whose answer was to sacrifice a buffalo and the intruding spirit would go with the buffalo's spirit. I did my best to explain about epileptic psychosis and schizophrenia and that his epilepsy and the research which suggests that there may be a genetic/inherited predisposition towards schizophrenia meant he was in a category with higher than normal likelihood of displaying these symptoms but whether I made myself understood sufficiently or whether my Western values were dismissed, they went ahead with the buffalo idea.

He didn't get any better and was passed around the family for a while until recently when he was living on his own on land where an uncle is building a house, the idea being that he could work on the site and for company there were friends living nearby. I didn't know this and thought that he was living on a farm with another uncle until 3 weeks ago when he was taken to hospital having chopped off the index finger of his left hand. I was appalled that he had been on his own when this happened but it gets worse.

A week later we received news that he was missing from the uncle's property - yes he had been taken back there to live on his own again. His body was found in the 3-metre deep fish pond on the site.

Thais, at least in my family, don't understand mental illness; the spirit world means something to them that doesn't exist in Western cuture.

The Thai police are losing face once again on this case. They have spent 12 years doing everything possible to NOT solve this case. Why ?? Because clearly a person of influence is involved in this case. So in a battle between loss of face / loss of tourism, and a person of influence being brought to justice, it is pretty clear who has won. I hope the British police enjoy their vacation, because unless the British Ambassador brings some heavy pressure to bear, this case will never be solved.

Who is the person of influence involved or is this just an assumption? I know nothing about the facts of this case but do know that even in the US that 40% of murders go unsolved. The US along with Thailand also has some of the highest incarcerations (% of pop. behind bars) in the world. Unless there are facts to point another way, I wouldn't just assume this unsolved crime has anything to do with corruption.

True that many murders are unsolved everywhere - but not when they have genetic evidence. This reduces the odds of 'not being caught' considerably.

I thought I heard something about a problem with the DNA or the Lab or something that resulted in problems ... again not saying in this case there was no cover-up but it just gets old hearing the same old BS speculation from people in a country that leads much of the rest of the world in NOT having a problem locking up their citizens for crimes regardless of if they are committed against a Thai or Farang.

Please take note - I deliberately made no mention of ethics, morals or any other idealised theories in this post, purely societal controls