Credo

2 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

And here, is exhibit A for the OP

Yup.  You nailed it.  Not one word of the laptop in the OP, but right out of the gate, an unsupported conspiracy theory, replete with all the essential words like they and their.   

If they tell him he has to get vaccinated, he won't run. 

I don't care much whether this is the best case to bring or the strongest or the most likely to get him convicted.  I care that he is facing the justice system, which is what happens to the rest of us when we are accused of criminal behavior.   

He is a man who has never had to face any consequences for his actions.  He grew up wealthy.  He received special treatment at every turn of his life.  He's always done whatever he wanted without care or consideration of others.   It has been a charmed existence, but not a realistic one and not the kind of life that the US as a nation aspired to have some enjoy but not others.   

He's not being persecuted.  He's being prosecuted.  Sadly for him, it took real consequences some 70+ years to catch up with him.   

9 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

These 34 counts are basically about 9 payments - but have been made to look worse by the DA. They are like knowingly receiving an invoice, writing a cheque, having a cheque stub and entering the payment in a ledger - so 4 counts for 1 event. No sane DA would be listing charges like this - basically its like prosecuting someone for drink driving on 4 counts - 1, getting into the car drunk, starting the car up drunk, pulling away from the curb drunk and then driving drunk ! Totally insane.

 

There is no 'hard' evidence against Trump.

 

The payments were made by Trumps accountant (main witness) who said 1. Trump knew nothing about the payments and 2. said Trump paid him back in payments that he knowingly received as 'retainer' fees !

 

I support (sort of) Trump, but would support any prosecution that had a chance of being actually being won against him. 

 

The indictments continue to say he did all this to hide another criminal offense - but the DA will not say what it is or put it in evidence/charges.

 

This is a total joke of a prosecution, that statutes of limitations has expired - or the DA ran away before he would explain how it was still live.

 

I fully expect this DA to end up in a homeless shelter one day.

 

 

New York law requires that each step in the charge be separate.  He is following the law as written, not making up new ones.

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not for me to spend my time researching other posters claims.

 

Try reading this at the top of the World subforum before making silly comments.

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source".

That's rich coming from someone who thinks that "IMO" negates the need for any link.   

How the Durham inquiry backfired to show weaponization of Trump DoJ

When the Trump justice department tapped a US attorney to examine the origins of the FBI inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, conservatives and many Republicans hoped it would end the idea Donald Trump’s campaign was boosted by Moscow and back his charges that some FBI officials and others had conspired against him.

But instead, as the multi-year investigation winds down, it is ending with accusations that unethical actions by that special counsel – John Durham – and ex-attorney general William Barr “weaponized” the US Department of Justice (DoJ) to help Trump.

Former DoJ officials and top Democrats are voicing strong criticism that Durham and Barr acted improperly in the almost four-year-old inquiry, citing an in-depth New York Times story that added to other evidence the inquiry looked politically driven to placate Trump’s anger at an investigation he deemed a “witch-hunt”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/10/donald-trump-fbi-durham-investigation

Trump must be nervous.  He's bringing out the big guns.  The big guns must be nervous as well, he resigned from his firm.  There's no need to bring them into disrepute when he ends up disbarred and in jail.   

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While I have no intention of using such a device, if posters want to use such, why bother actually writing anything? Just post whatever a machine said.

Of course, you don't plan on using it.  You seldom post anything that has any source other than IMO.  Between having some factual information and your opinion, I'll go with information.

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Lost count of the number of conspiracy theories in that post. Makes you think, if there was any wrongdoing by Trump his haters could stick to factual accusations rather than conspiracies.

You might want to look up at the definition of a conspiracy theory, because those aren't conspiracies. So, let's take a look:

Did he try to take away Obamacare:

Donald Trump and his administration attempted to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) several times throughout his presidency.

I don't know specifically about chemotherapy for children in Appalachia, but here's a bit about GoFundMe related to it in the US:

GoFundMe requests for healthcare in the US are unfortunately quite common. According to a study published in 2019, approximately 1 in 3 GoFundMe campaigns are related to healthcare expenses. This is due to the high healthcare costs in the US and the fact that many people do not have adequate health insurance coverage. In many cases, individuals and families turn to crowdfunding as a last resort to cover medical bills and other healthcare expenses.

As for NYC police overtime:

Yes, in recent years, the New York City Police Department (NYPD) has exceeded its allocated overtime budgets. In 2019, the NYPD spent $726 million on overtime, which was $115 million more than the initial budget for that year. The prolonged protests and increased security measures during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 have further added to the NYPD's overtime expenses. However, it is important to note that there have been discussions and debates about reallocating some of the NYPD's

All answers thanks to Aseannow new ChatGPT.

Is there any reason for this law or is it just nationalism at it's worst?

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

If you have family there ask them if they are better off with Biden.

I did; they are.  After the Trump Covid debacle, and numerous unnecessary deaths in the family, they are happy.  Oh, and they are all conservatives, but no longer Trump supporters.   

Trump has run roughshod over the legal system for far, far too long.  It is time his lawlessness is challenged.   The word unprecedented is used, and it's not exactly true.    Here's a little about what happened to John Edwards during his campaign:

 

On May 24, 2011, ABC News and the New York Times reported that the U.S Department of Justice's Public Integrity Section had conducted a two-year investigation into whether Edwards had used more than $1 million in political donations to hide his affair and planned to pursue criminal charges for alleged violations of campaign finance laws.^{[120][121][122]}

On June 3, 2011, Edwards was indicted by a federal grand jury in North Carolina on six felony charges, including four counts of collecting illegal campaign contributions, one count of conspiracy, and one count of making false statements.^[123]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards}

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. If the anti Trumpers on here were to be on the jury, they'd vote to convict even if there was no poof at all IMO.

Doesn't matter what the judge instructs jury on, in the jury room they are the deciders. If they weren't, don't need juries.

I'm sure that if any Trump supporters were on the jury they'd be voting not guilty whatever the proof.

 

Problem for the lawyers is that there is probably no American that has no opinion on Trump.

You overestimate the American public.  A lot of people are not particularly political and don't have a strong opinion one way or the other.  People that have a bias are not permitted on the jury.  You can bet your bottom dollar they will check carefully, including social media.   

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Now the "entertainment" begins. This will be keeping CCN in business for a while anyway.

 

Assuming the case even gets to court, just trying to find an unbiased juror will be a major problem, and a biased jury is an appeal guarantee right there.

 

However, win or lose this is IMO the Dems dream case as voters will probably be unlikely to vote for a man that is facing a court case, and it may not go to court for years, if the American "justice" system is anything to go by. Job done for the Dems.

Not particularly hard to find a jury.  It's a reasonably straightforward case and not particularly political.  Did he pay the money or not?  Was the payment legal or not?   That's what the judge will limit the trial to and that's what the jury will be instructed on.

3 minutes ago, 2baht said:

That will get the sheep followers going, I hope they cuff him! ????

I don't care if they cuff him.  I want to see him convicted.