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2 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Sorry, Not good at either cars or motorbikes. Please don´t take it negative, but why not just leave it to a motorbike shop that have a bunch of young guys. They usually have bikes as an interest and a hobby. Usuallt not much they can´t fix. The Honda shops with their garage are just a bunch of tired dead heads that not like what they are doing.

That's solid advice and it certainly couldn't hurt many budgets.

I'd detest not having reliable transportation.

1 hour ago, The manic said:

Saigon is fun. Has girls. Hanoi is Cultured. Philippines I don't like. Food is better in Vietnam. I made this video in and around Hanoi and north Thailand. 

Great fun

I've replied directly to the OP so I hope I'll be allowed this brief OT.

You mentioned being off your motorbike tour while I believe you were in Hanoi.

Did you find a motorbike tour in Hanoi?    I came up empty in my search three years ago.

I took two all day ones in Saigon and will never forget the fantastic  experiences.

I need to get back to Hanoi.     What a great city.

23 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

I like them both, pros and cons :Vietnam is significantly cheaper, especially hotels, although the pesos has slipped quite a bit so the difference isn't as glaring as it used to be. Vietnamese food is much better.

TThe PH still has more of that 3rd world (some call it shit hole) feel to it which I personally find attractive.

English is spoken widely, while English proficiency in Vietnam is even lower than in Thailand. 

If you are looking for anything like Pattaya style nightlife, Philippines is definitely better. 

I still don't quite get it why hotels are generally much more expensive in the PI as opposed to most of SEA.    

I'd say the PI hotels generally speaking offer less for the money.

Internet included in price seems to remain a future amenity for Manila hotels at least.

I'm not sure based on my limited experience if I can agree with you about "English proficiency in Vietnam is even lower than in Thailand."   

Off hand I'd say I had little to  no problems at all with using English in either North or South Vietnam.

5 hours ago, lionsincity said:

food in vietnam is excellent

food in the philippines is some of the worst in the world.

 

town/cities in the PI can be real shitholes

 

the accent/national character in the PI I find annoying. 

town/cities in the PI can be/  are real shitholes.

I like the PI a lot  but truth be truth.

The food??   Special taste buds required ( or perhaps no taste buds at all) in the PI.

Vietnam is the cat's meow.   Go for it..

But I'd allow for a future trip to the PI in your bucket list, for sure.

I pretty much gave up on  member cards in Thailand.

I've no interest in prizes and I don't know of any card in the Kingdom that offers a cash back kind of reward.

Are there any cash back reward cards in the Kingdom?

Absolutely use a primer and tint the primer with the final color of your choice.

Yes it cost more but your result  will pay you back in lasting a very  long time.

And your final coat will be a breeze.

22 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

I wouldn't want to see them driving without their drugs of choice. 

You silly goose..  ?

On 7/14/2018 at 2:13 PM, mok199 said:

a match made in heaven..

Which match do you think is heaven made?

3 hours ago, moontang said:

prisons are full of people who committed victimless crime.  It is the sworn duty of police to uphold the law; not interpret it to their liking.

I don't think you really answered my question meant  for discussion.    

What harm do you personally  see as a result of overstays?

Oh yes,  if it is victimless crime, does the law make sense?    Should it be a law if victimless?     Curious..

Just for discussion sake, what would the problem be if a person didn't quite  meet the requirements of immigration but got along just fine living economically in thailand.   Who would be hurt by that?

2 minutes ago, lupin said:

insanity rules...

 

I expect all future super hero roles to be played by actual super heroes

and all roles depicting serial killers to be played by actual serial killers

 

I think the insanity starts with all the "celebrity" worship.

20 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

 

Well if you care to read the first post, I was responding to it, so the location was implied.

I don't bother to try to read minds so your "implication" was not meaningful.

Thanks anyway.

6 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

In this area, no you can't, Thai bodies only. Probably because of the legal situation.

 

Bangkok probably.

Please clearly state WHERE you refer to.

That would help make your post meaningful.

7 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Twas only a smidgen of humour and made the point that going under a Thai government scheme surgeons knife might not be something to be craved for.

It's  the "only a smidgen of humour" part that I suggest penning.

Few things seem to rankle certain TVF members than an overstay by a falang.              

57 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

A Thai sex change?  good luck to them they'll cut their d***ks off then probably forget to put the fake vagina in then it will be   'nearly chicks but no dicks'

Very,  very  impressive post,  Bob.

Maybe the site admin will consider penning it  in your honor?

Keep it coming..

1 minute ago, colinneil said:

When i read your post i thought you were having a laugh, you prefer people who s++t in taxis,  shove others out of the way, devour all the food at buffets, spit everywhere, yuk.

No colinneil.

He's just a sad  miserable git venting about perceived injustices.

On 7/13/2018 at 10:17 AM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

I was taught in school that 15% of nothing is nothing

At least you grasp the meaning of percentage.

3 hours ago, Cutty Shark said:

This reminds me of a scam from the early 1980’s:  A well-dressed, English-speaking Thai man would approach foreigners, asking for 100 baht.  He explained that his car had been accidentally locked and he needed the money to hire a locksmith. 

 

The story was eventually reported in the local English-language press, and I happened to read it.

 

A little later, my friend and I were approached by this same guy on Ploenchit Road.  Recognizing his story, we offered to go with him to his car and help him open it ourselves.  He declined of course, though I can’t remember the reason he gave for not accepting our help, if any.

 

Some of you folks who have been here a good while may recall that scam.

You forgot the caps lock?

39 minutes ago, vogie said:

I have showed you the sign, I was interested in your opinion of where you thought the warning was, not a load of links.

You are also stated that they entered on the 23rd of June and that the rainy season doesn't start at the stroke of midnight of any month (I also have the ability to be sarcastic), that is what the sign is there for, it is advising them that it is business as usual.

I cannot make it more clearer than that, so I hope you enjoy the rest of your day and I will call it a day as further debating seems pointless.

Are you blind to the links that clearly show underscore to the  "warning"?

Please let it go as clearly we are unable to communicate.   No bad feelings but  I believe it's best we just let it go.

Good luck to you..   And for sure there were/are  warnings clearly  posted at the entrance to the cave

The warning sign is posted as sarcasm?    I don't think so as events proved to be the case.

Just be happy the boys are safe.   Isn't that the most important matter with this event?

17 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Or the execution(s) continue?

Still not clear to me why only this one convict had been executed recently.

I guess you were not  in the loop about the uselessness of capital punishment.

1 hour ago, vogie said:

maybe you can show me the "warning".

Sir,  I'm, not going to argue with you about this but  a few publications seem to also favor the word warning in regards to the sign.  What you and I   have here is likely  a failure to communicate.   I'll post the "warnings" for you from a few publications

Thai cave rescue: How a 25-year-old former monk kept the teenage ...

3 days ago - Three more people were rescued from a flooded Thai cave on Tuesday, ...... A large warning sign at the cave's entrance raises the risk of ...

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I'm happy the boys were safely rescued.   Please be clear about that.

I guess what nags at me in the back of my mind is how this seems to be a result of the general lack of  personal responsibility I see continually in Thailand.    Those of us who drive see it clearly demonstrated in the driving habits in the Kingdom.     And those of us who have had some exposure to the Thai education system know full well how children are taught in this country.   The education system is absolutely awful and  the  results of the system are abundantly clear.

I still ponder the thought  as to whether anyone should have some responsibility  in this matter or not.

I'm certainly not pointing any fingers so please  don't start there.    

Lastly, they entered the cave on June 23rd.    As far as I know,  rainy season does not start at the stroke of midnight on any particular month.    

If ever there was an event where it would be nice to be able to turn back the clock...

12 hours ago, vogie said:

There is no warning on the sign (I cannot read Thai) but in english it clearly states it is open, how can you possibly construe that to be a warning.

 

And no the coach should not walk away without any responsibility, he should walk away with a medal!

I didn't bother to take a screen shot of it but an article run by USAToday showed a warning sign posted at the entrance of the cave.  The sign was indeed in both Thai and English and specifically warned against entering the cave between July and November due to  flood dangers caused by rains

Fake News you think?

Anyway that's the reason for my post and if such a sign existed does that change things in any way?

I haven't followed this event as closely as some but I thought in all likelihood the same sign would have appeared on one  of the articles posted by THV.

I hope that brings some clarity as to why I made the post I made.

On 7/6/2018 at 4:50 PM, Sheryl said:

Wrong in hindsight is not necessarily the same as something one should have known not to do at the time.

Cave still open for exploring and normally free of flooding at that time of year.

Cave dry and skies clear.

Easy to cast blame now but can any of us be sure we couldn't have made the same mistake?

It definitely sounds like he did all the right things once they got trapped, even to the detriment of his own health.

If these boys do not all make it out alive the weight on him will be enormous. Even if they do, there is the loss if a rescuer (let us hope it stays at just one rescuer).

A very heavy mental burden indeed.

No call to add to it with recriminations.

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How does that clear warning sign in both Thai and English fit into the mix?       

Should the young man simple walk away without any responsibility?

2 minutes ago, Basil B said:

(Discovery = Disney4adults) 

Not Discovery Chanel UK... 

 

Looked through the weekend schedules, can not find any listing, will check YouTube on Sat...

"The hour long Operation Thai Cave Rescue will air on Friday 13th July at 10pm ET/PT on Discovery Channel in the United States, followed by another airing on Science Channel on Saturday 14th July at 10pm ET/PT."

A VPN may bypass the country  viewing matter.