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On 6/15/2017 at 7:02 AM, wildewillie89 said:

Yes they do, but usually second chances don't continue to infringe on the victims. They just go somewhere, keep out of the spot light so their victims do not have to deal with them. If he was 'rehabilitated', he would surely realise that putting himself out there all of the time would be causing a lot of pain to the victim/family. 

Maybe he isn't as rehabilitated as you think. Maybe you are just a sucker for words if they are coming out of a famous persons mouth, Rehabilitation is not about words in exchange for payment, it is not about 'serving time', it is about learning, it is about understanding how your actions hurt innocent people and it is about changing your ways so your new actions do not continue to hurt those/other people.

So if that is the case and someone still continues to pay serious money to see the man, what else could anyone feel but suspicious of that person. All they are saying is i don't care less about a little girl who was raped. All i care about is my photo opportunity with the convicted man who did the raping...because i may get some Facebook likes, or it may be a conversation starter due to his fame. 

Ok you have issues here.

  But to not recognise what this man did with his life once justice was served  goes against all reasoning for letting him be a free man after he paid the price.To keep pursecuting him and not leave it behind is of no value to any one especially those who were victims. the past is the past and good men leave things like this in the past and support men who worked their way out and became good citizens.

 I feel guys like you who do not let it go are the problem now.

The man is rehabilitated what more can you ask. Better than a repeat offender do you not think  That aside he was a great fighter and  should be respected for doing what he did with his life after a major mistake.

  For me it is curiosity as much as any thing I want to stand beside him and get an understanding of how  solid and strong he is. He looks so powerful in the upper body.. He could probably kill me with one punch.

Are there 9 others here who want to secure a VIP table for 10 at 200,000 baht that is only 20,000 person. I would pay that just to meet him. I really would like to meet him He was such a powerful fighter. Arturo Gotti was my all time favorite sad he hung himself. I would have paid more to meet him.

 Does anyone know what they mean by a top table for 50,000

Just go to your embassy they have one

14 minutes ago, Gracas said:

Sounds like the last 55K you gave him is not enough, also maybe some work as farm labour would not hurt him in the least. He may think he is becoming a successful con-man, at least as far as you are concerned as he always has his mum obtain the money needed. As far as the rich GF goes, if her family are smart enough to own two hospitals I am sure they are smart enough to see through your step-son, a time will come when he will be sent on his way. If you hold true to your word about not giving anymore money on the next request, good this is maybe what he needs. Don't worry about the mum/wife if her priority is the son then so be it.

You got it right . 

 That's exactly how I see it too.

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

What evidence do you have of this ?

Non it was all word of mouth. I searched it but could find nothing also. But the family is adament they own it. One source for me also was a christian  volunteer worker told me the church no longer owned them. I found it odd when I was told the first time for the gf's family is buddhist not christian. I have been able to find the history of the hospitals but cannot find anything on line about change of ownership. Basicaly, can find nothing but the history and services they provide.

Just now, sanemax said:

If it came down to it .

Who would she choose ?

You or the son ?

no brainer her son

18 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Ah yes, if he's got handsome looks and moolah provided by the step-father for him to spend, then it's possible to break into the hi-so circle. The only thing is if the moolah by the step-father stops, the rich hi-so gf will probably disappear and they would have no interest for having a poor bf.

Exactly he is now skating on very thin ice especially since he brought his gik home to meet mom. He already gets my money through his mom so I can comtrol what he gets from my end easy. And if hi so gf is gone what other door can he open? All opportunity is lost. As I said sum num na

Just now, sanemax said:

Are you sure about that ?

The McCormack hospital is owned by "After the war in 1949, American Presbyterian missionaries gave McCormick Hospital to the Church of Christ in Thailand Foundation to continue their mission."

I was of the same opinion as you but since have found out the church no longer owns either one the gf's mother got them some how.

Just now, bbi1 said:

You said the kid and his mum have no money and you are paying for everything. How the hell did he get a rich gf if he's and the family seems to be a poor? I thought hi-so Thais will associate with their own kind, not bums who have no money.

Gee not hard math man. he is going to Rangsit university with cash in his pockets. good looking and charming.Young girls fall for sweet talk and money being spent. all the time. 

 the wife's family was and is extremely poor. With out me he would have not even had the opportunity to go to technical college.He would have been farm labour same as the rest of the family.

This thread has gotten a little off topic but that's ok too.

  People seem to have varied ideas about trust.

 My understanding of trust has came about from life experiences.I learned from the school of hard knocks to trust no one.

I did quite feel in my 20's so well that early 30's felt I needed help to manage. Hired a guy to keep things on track. In 2 years he had lost or robbed me of 1/3 my networth. I went back to handling very thing myself.

 I moved provinces. Left 2 houses in care of another persson. A guy who had just gone through a divorce and had 2 kids and I wanted to help.Well He tried to rob me blind had to stop him.

 i came to Thailand got married wife took me for 1,000,000 , and car in 4 months ( have to trust the wife right)

  So it is very difficult to become old and fragile and believe others will keep my needs and intentions in mind rather than let greed over take them.

Well certainly appears many people see it differently.

The son yes I feel has taken me for maybe 100000 or 200000 during his university time. But that happens the world over university kids are known for those actions. The last 55000 was the last money I will give him and I told the wife that.He said it was for his final semester so I said final is final no more money. I stand firm on that. If he lied to us and needs more money in the future for real expenses he is out of luck. I can be very mean. If he asks for more it will not be there  and because I do not give it to him he cannot finish his education that is what will happen. I will let 4 years of funding his education go down the sewer to make my point and all the opportunities that were there shall disappear into thin air. No education,probably hi so gf gone etc. Back to catching frogs at night.Sum num na

  The money is not the issue. It is the Thai mother's not providing proper life skills for their children. I am not a saint or a philantropist.. Some one does not give me respect they pay the price. I will take their cheap shots to get the knock out punch.

 The son has no idea who he is dealing with. He thinks every one cherishs the ground he walks on same as his mother.

10 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

This story - if true, I hope it is not, but OP has 2872 posts - is rather extreme.....

 

But yes, sons are adored to the extreme by their Thai mothers.

The traditional excuse for this is that the sons "will take care" of their mother when she is old.

Just another example of the conflict between old Thai culture as it was long ago, and real life as it is today.

 

Thai culture is a decaying culture.

Even more than Western culture.

Makes me sad.

Both.

 

 

 

 

The story is true. 

 And you are completely right about Thai mother's adoring their son's. This thread was just to show how far it goes to the extremes.

  It appears to me my wife will accept her son being a cheating husband in the future as his right.

  As far as him taking care of her in the future the jury is still out on that one. I will not commit to saying he will or will not. I do know her selfish daughter will not help her at all for sure..

 My wife is a small village women late 40's and is stuck with old values in a modern world. I truely  care for her and am probably the only person in her life that does care about her.

10 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

You seem to have money to throw away. Can I give you my account number?

You are the stupid one in the family...

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there are different definitions of stupid. 

Some may think giving him the money is stupid. I see it as baiting the self destruction trap.

 His gf's parents are prepared to set him up for life.They own 2 hospitals. He will graduate as a medical technician. they are prepared to set him up in practice and hospital connections their hospitals. His wife will be pharmacist.They will be wannabe High So or maybe lower High So. But if he keeps going the way he is with the money he gets he will in all likely hood be found out and lose it all. So who loses the most.?

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35 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

That is the way it has been done for a number of years now - extension is only valid until expiration of current passport if less than a year and a new extension must be obtained for the new passport (the normal full year).  

The way they did it the first passport change was they gave till end of passport day in old passport but when i renewed adjusted the date to the anniversary date. of aug 3. in new passport So that year I paid to have it entered into new passport for the remaining months till aug 3 and then aug 3 had to do for a full year. But as you said things change. If they would have done to aug 3 though I would not have problem now.

Just have to relate this story.

  I amnot sure if any you read or remember my post about step son going to Rangsit  University and his keeping his gf's new car in Rangsit for himself well she is in Chiang Mai without it. And how he would also lend said car to relatives to come to Lomsak.All the while rightful owner is in Chiang Mai

 Well this same prince of a man told the wife 2 weeks ago he needed 55000 baht for some school expense. immediately. So i sent the money. Then a week later him and gf come to visit and stay a week. The whole week the son is big spender squandering money on every relative and especially his mom. I told the wife I think he is spending the money I sent him.The wife gave me the shut up and do not talk that way again  look unless you want real trouble. So I never mentioned it again.One week later the son and gf went to Chiang Mai because her studies were starting.

  3 days later son shows up again for another visit.This time he brings his gik or gf from Rangsit.. My wife was all excited to see him and told me do not tell his gf. I got angry with the wife saying it is so wrong what he is doing. he has a good gf who is rich and her parents own the Mc Cormack hospital and the Overbrook. hospitals in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai. He is set for life if he respects what is there. The wife tells me every one loves her son you have to expect all women to love him.She was proud of him having extra women. She seemed to feel he deserved many women he was so great.

 I told her I give him to much money if he can afford 2 gf. No answer.

  i can understand the young con man son he is young and stupid but my wife going along with it is crazy.Her son can do no wrong . 

 PS No wonder I am having health problems ha ha ha

26 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There are visas that are valid for entry to the country for 6 months or one year. A multiple entry tourist visa is valid for 6 months from the date of issue that allows 60 day entries. Or a multiple entry non-o visa valid for one year that allows 90 day entries.

Ok 

If I understand this properly.

The multiple entry tourist visa must be from date of issue so if I get in Canada the clock is ticking before I even enter Thailand.and I must leave the country every 60 days to extend.

  The non-0 is valid for a year so can get in Canada and no worries about it running out. But must leave Thailand and come back every 90 days 

  Wow easier to just creat a new retirement extension and new date that works for me.

  The crazy part about all this is I have had the extensions going so long I am in 3rd passport .Until 2 years ago it was always august3. but because number 2 passport ran out april 1  immigration could only extend to april 1. When I got new passport the immigration office  simply went with april 1 and never bothered to make renewal date aug 3.. I wish now they had.

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

The only way you can change the date your extension is due is to leave without a re-entry permit, get a non-o visa, enter the country and apply for a new extension.

If you enter the country after you extension expires you would have to start all over again by getting new non-o visa entry.

That is what I thought i would have to do but wanted to check. Is it posible to get a visa then that lasts 6 month?

At present time I want to change to 6 months in Canada and 6 months in Thailand.

A small problem came up when I planning it though. 

 My retirement extension comes up April 1 each year. I plan on being in Canada every year in the future from Oct to end of April. So April 1 I will be in Canada.Can I change this date before I go to Canada to a more suitable date? Or can I return and go to immigration and show I was out of the country and do it on return. Or must I reapply and get a new one? If a new one is needed can I do before I go?

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2 hours ago, colinneil said:

It appears you are taking my advice.......Stop being negative......

Now kick your backside in gear, sit down with your wife, and start talking.

Best of luck, i hope you can work things out.

Thanks

The wife may be a problem explaining it to.. I feel she will get angry because I will be away 6 months a year  feel there is a problem with her.That is just the way she thinks I know her. She will take it personal.

 The other major thing will be I must stop cathetering and go to a bag with a tube direct from my bladder..not sure what that is called. I kept cathetering hoping the bladder would come back but it has not. And to travel and catheter is just about impossible, That has to be done before I can go.

 Lots to do to get this done.

Thank you all for the replies.

  This post has helped me a lot.in deciding how I should live and changes I should make to have a good life again.

  I will be eating humble pie though.I said many times since coming here I would never go back to stay in Canada. Well that is changing now. I am thinking of returning for 6 months a year. I do this for many reasons,but all came about because of this stroke and potential issues that can arise.

  I had to do a lot of soul searching and work hard to understand where I am in life.and how to deal with it. I now feel most of the challenges I face now in life can be solved simply by living 6 months a year Thailand 6 months Canada.It solves medical care with definitely more than one opinion about my health problems.,the opinions will even be from 2 different countries doctors.The money will be so easy. Just bring to Thailand what I need when I return each year ,plus I can spend all the money I have reserved for healthcare here(do not need large amount available any more and I will no longer need to keep 800,000 in bank for retirement extention.

  2 days ago I was ready to end it now i am willing to try a new way to live. 

  I realised I was so stubborn I would not look at new ways to solve my issues. I was focused on what I had prioritized and never thought of changing my priorities. Now I changed my priorities and hope I have the answer.

  It will be hard on my wifes and mine relationship  But I believe it is what is needed. Having my wife in my life and caring for her has been the most rewarding days of my life. So we will have to both have to work together and understand this is the best thing for all concerned and work with it.

 I just hope this works.

20 minutes ago, Mike45 said:

My 2 cents worth of straight talking. I hope you appreciate it for what it is, an honest attempt to help you.

 

You need immediate medical treatment for the stroke you think you had. You're not a doctor and you obviously can afford to pay for your medical care. Killing yourself is not medical treatment. Because of the medical condition you're probably not thinking correctly right now. So don't make ANY decisions other than getting the best medical treatment possible RIGHT NOW.

 

You make it sound like you cannot trust your wife and that when you die you intend to do absolutely nothing for her. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what it sounded like. You should be planning to make sure she has ACCESS to money to live off of for her lifetime. Meanwhile if you're incapacitated she can use that money to take care of you.

 

You sound as though you suffer from some paranoia or fear that someone is going to take everything away from you. It even stretches so far that you can't trust internet banking and I think you said SWIFT. . It's 2017 get with it, that's how banking is done. Internet banking makes living in a foreign country possible. If you can't bring yourself to do it you probably don't belong here. PERHAPS you should consider moving home and live next to your bank.

 

You said your sister is dying. Why aren't you getting on a plane and going to see her? You can travel with a catheter after you've been medically cleared to fly for your current medical problem. She's your sister for God's sake! You appear to only be thinking about yourself and your problems.

 

You say you've had a rude Awakening and realize how vulnerable we ALL are here in Thailand. I'M NOT! If you are it's because YOU'VE MADE YOURSELF vulnerable.

 

I sincerely wish you the best of luck with your medical problems and your other issues. But I've learned in my lifetime that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Thanks for your advice. 

  You are right I trust no one. My wife will be left with enough to carry for a few years depending how she spends it.

  You are right about swift and I am starting to lean towards using it with the help of my banker.

 I went back last July and spent time with my sister.I had a foley catheter placed inside my penis and after 3 weeks I was in extreme pain from the friction. I am still in pain from till this day because of frequent cathetering.. I call her bi weekly and send her money to help her.. She is in the final stages but I cannot endure the pain again of a long term foley inside me to go see her.

  But you may be right swift may be the answer to all my problems.

1 minute ago, Foozool said:

My dad had a stroke about 20 years ago. No more smoking and some treatments kept him alive. He is still there, but I believe if he did not do treatment (by medications), he would not be there now. 

One more thing: he is not a bedridden. 

I am happy for you and your father It is nice to hear he recovered and has a full life.

 Who knows if I will even ave another stroke? Or if I do how bad it will be. I am just looking at what could happen in the worst case. and how complicated it could become.

Just now, wildewillie89 said:

Why cant they do your banking? Just going to get money out of an ATM? Takes, what, one minute? Are they that untrustworthy? It is fine to ask nothing from no body, but why are you here saying you're in a shit situation? You cant on one hand complain that because you are incapacitated that nothing can get done, and in the same sentence say you will not ask for help....that just leaves the option for you to die...which doesn't need a running commentary. 

I think we are all aware how vulnerable humans are. It is not some new scientific discovery. I have had a complicated tick disease for 2 months now. Had to spend a week in hospital and 2 months at home (seizures, enlarged organs, prolonged fevers, etc). I had a plan. If someone moves to a new country without a plan, then they are just incredibly naive aren't they?

I did have a plan but forgot one vital thing.   I forgot the part if I became incapable of getting to the bank how I would get money.For some reason it just escaped me.I am self funded for health so kept 3 million for health care thinking I was covered for health costs but never under realized that in a real situation could I even access the money.

28 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

As a fellow Canadian I think you should go back. I really do appreciate all the free services Canadians get and will be back to a country that accepted me after I dodged the draft in Yugoslavia. Being single and paying taxes is a very small price to pay.



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I do not want the health services. My father spent the last 2 years of his life in a hospital bed  under Canada health services. For the last 2 years of his life he was medical experiment for doctors to practice on.or with.They kept him on morphine to kill the pain because they refused to replace his hip and he layed there day after day going in and out of reality so the doctors could claim they were caring for a life.It was the most dreadful thing to watch .My father dieing with no dignity or respect. Not for me thank you