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4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

should i go buy some more stuff?

 

 

yes, toilet paper ????

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

Don’t forget you can let them out at 4am 

yes, toilet paper ! ????

I have my own condo, I'm 55 years old but come often now on a tourist visa for 60 days , eventually extended 30 more days...

I year ago, they fined me in Jomtien 1600 TB (!) before to be able to pay 1900 THB more for my 30 days extension...which I needed by the for only 10 more days...(because they started to enforece a old "law" (TM30) even for owners in their own condo !!) and that never happenned in 10 years ...So imagine how unfair I felt it was...really fed up..

Has anything change there or although they already have my adress 2 times (1 time when filling the visa in Belgium and 1 time when filling the TM6 in the plane before to land to pass imigration), am I still required to go to immigration 24 or 48 or 96 hours after my arrival in my own condo ??..which is really a pain in the....and makes me think to sell my condo, It's even so difficult to rent because in this case after all, I am also responsible to declare the foreigners inside and as it is in Nirun condo, if I had to pass through a thai agency, it's not even worth it...I prefer then to keep it free for me to come randomly when I can.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If you have a condo, you ain't a tourist. Tourists stay in guest houses or hotels.

Try entering on multiple tourist visas in a year now and one will get the message.

 

It's been a requirement to do TM 30 for many many years.

no, this is not true, never for yourself when you come to live in your own condo for 30, 60 or 90 days, I never were asked to "report" myself as soon as I came ..because as I said, they knew already that I was living there (asked before to enter Thailand and leave the plane  on a TM6!!) plus eventually if I stay more than 30 days my adress is asked also to get a tourist visa

5 hours ago, mfd101 said:

And after that, the pain-in-the-butt health insurance nonsense. If they could backtrack on that in the next 2 or 3 months, I would feel much relieved.

 

All we need to do is get a petition together and some publicity in Western newspapers ... Now's the time for action, with help from coronaV.

yes, and anyway, most of us have full assistance and hospitalization insurance in our home country for years..Maybe some assistances work only 3 months though..but the hospitalization insurance from my mutuality in Belgium  works 365 days and worldwide !

5 hours ago, hottrader77 said:

thai immigration have added the exceptions instead of just scrapping them because it saves face , they dont want to look as stupid as they are , the 1st time i used to come to thailand in the 1990s i could get a 1 year multi entry tourist visa or a 1 year multi entry business visa , but then immigration got greedy and less and less time allowed to stay in thailand thats why we are at the 60 day visa and then pay for an extension of 30 days , the message is clear GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY NOT YOU ! so i will be going somewhere else and they will no longer have my hard earned money !

This movement to Vietnam , The Phils , Cambodia, or simply stay in Europe where less harrassments has begun already for years....

5 hours ago, mikosan said:

Yes, except it's now called a TM27 rather than a TM28 it seems and is required when you change the address you notified on arrival on the TM6.  It seems the 24/48 hour time limits have been waived for most, but the requirement to report a permanent change of address is still there.  There is no change to the TM30 reporting requirements.  Although I could be wrong, because, as usual, it's all as clear as mud.

TIT...this is called thai logic...but as we all know, many thai children don't listen at school,(where they should learn about logic) they don't care...

5 hours ago, jackdd said:

Tourists have always been exempt from TM28.

but as tourist in my own condo, I have now to report a TM30 !! Even they asked my adress 2 months before to make the visa and also on the TM6 when coming out of the plane to enter Thailand and pass immigration...another illogical rule !!

6 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

No, you dont need to do a TM28 reporting yourself, another province 24 hours etc. You may still need a TM30  (from the property housemaster, owner or possesor)reporting your return to where you live, dependant on local office enforcement.

so still the same harrassment/problem...because I am my own condo owner !! This is not logical !

6.18 "Elderly..for retirement"...does it apply for all those above 50 years on non-o, non oa,...but not on a tourist visa ?

So if I'm "elderly"  but don't meet the requirements for non-o (/oa) and come only 2 or 3 months each time on a tourist visa , I still need to report myself if I go to visit a friend in another province for more than 24 hours ???

1 hour ago, Georgie65 said:

This is just another example of Thai Immigration Bureau causing confusion between TM28 and TM30 to benefit the commercial Immigration Service Providers.

 

The whole issue of address reporting by house-owners is a disgrace and is not required in any other country that I know of.

 

The worst aspect of this apart from the inconvenience to foreigners, is that Thai Immigration Bureau does nothing with the information and they accumulate piles of paper documents that nobody ever examines or analyses. The piles of paper documents are stored in warehouses and never applied for any useful purpose.

 

TM28, TM30, and 90 day reporting requirements should be scrapped.

 

The requirement to submit countless paper documents with visa extensions and 90-day reporting by mail should also be scrapped. Once Thai Immigration have received a paper document they should never require that document to be submitted again because they already have it.

As a condo owner at the same adress since 10 years  and previously having already been on a retirement visa, last year, I was again on a 60 days tourist visa and when I asked for a 30 days extention, they fined me 1600 (!) before to be able to pay 1900 for only 10 days or so that I really needed before to fly back home...I was really angry being taken for a fool and for an ATM, and felt that was unfair because they asked me my adress already when I made the tourist visa in Belgium 2 months before and also when I landed and passed immigration coming from the plane, on the TM6 , I said you know my adress already, I gave you already 2 times in the last 2 months and countless times before...and I complained that nobody ever told me, they said, "yes but it's not the same", and handed me a paper with the law saying that this law was not new...

Anyway, now they react...when the streets are empty...but a bit too late, they are always shooting a bullet in their own feet...

16 hours ago, jollyhangmon said:

 

... 555, yes, certainly looks a lot like the double entry TV they abolished just 2015 or so ...

I'd say there are total plonkoids at work here, 4 shua ...  &  

 

Last June, I wanted to take a double entry tourist visa at the consulate here in Liège, Belgium, (usually 60€): they told me that now it was only possible single entry (30€ as usual) or MULTIPLE enties : 100 € ! So all this for greed as usual, some (many) people have probably paid 100 € (instead of 60 € before) because all they needed was 2 entries....Money Money Money... Now they see that they'r losing money bcoz less tourism...so now they make a step back ...5555 (hahahaha)????????????

On 8/26/2011 at 4:41 PM, BigBikeBKK said:

The fine for taking a motorcycle onto a TOLL ROAD or other motorway where motorcycles are not allowed is indeed 1000 Baht. I'm not familiar with National Highway 36...

what is the difference between "highway", "motorway", "toll way/road" ??

Is it posible that even a 1000 cc would not be allowed to ride on some of them ?

In French we use the word "autoroute" for all of them, eventually "toll" would be that you have to pay a portion of this "autoroute". 

18 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

How would they value the mutual fund at the time or your extension?  Stock broker/Imm agent desk at you local immigration office?

there is always a value, even if it fluctuates like the change rate of the pound, the euro or the USD when they have to value your pension...it is the same (same-same ;-))

Anyway, I think that fixed deposit accounts are valid and offer more intetrest than "saving account (currently 0.50 %/year)...

they should at least allow to keep those funds in either mutual funds, stocks or some accounts that provide at least an interest to fight inflation. Before, I had to sell mutual funds 3 months before applying, then , after visa granted, I could transfer my money in some liquidity mutual funds or fixed term deposits that provided me maybe 1.4-1.6% (in stocks more than that) interest on a yearly basis....

I I have to keep 400,000 on my savings account in Kasikorn, I will lose more money than what I was already losing before !!

I remeber though last year to have spoken with a Belgian married friend and he showed me another kind of bankbook also accepted by immigration, if I remember well, it was a kind of fixed term deposit bankbook that provided a small interest, but higher than the normal "saving account" of Kasikornbank...

25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Vodka is really cheap in Thailand @ 150bht for 700ml.

Learn to adapt and drink the local liquors.

 

Or stay in your home country and enjoy cheap beer while sitting on your patio in the snow.

what you mention is NOT vodka, they call it "White Spirit"...not the same taste, and probably even more unhealthy... 

And if you try Lao Khao , it's even more dangerous...I heard u can become blind if u drink too much of it, probably contains a bit of methanol..

Because in Thailand, the government added several times excise taxes over the year....Even 15 years ago it was already more expensive for a San Miguel Light for example  than in the Philippines where they are produced and where the taxes on beers and alcohol are very low....Nowadays the price difference between a San Mig Light in a 7/11 in Thailand and in the Philippines is even bigger !

I see now on the website https://www.honestbee.ph/en/groceries/stores/robinsons/departments/8019/categories/41749

the price of 300 ml san mig light is 32.75 PHP which is 20.3 THB ....a few years ago I think I saw the san mig light around 25 or 27 PHP...

As you can see, a Tiger (330 ml) is 31.25 PHP( 19.35 baht)...and a Heineken 330 ml although imported also is 46.50PHP (28.81 baht)...how much is it in Thailand now ? ;-)

2 hours ago, coulson said:

Yawn.....this one never gets old.

 

You couldn't possibly add any more to the confusion.

 

It's simple, smoking cigarettes is safer for your health in Thailand.

it's better for the taxes, for sure..

4 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

Well I would say a Driving License is obtained in your own country

& a Driving Permit (even though obtained in your own country ), is called a Permit due to the fact that you don't have a Drivers License for the said country of visit. So therefore it's Permitting you to drive / ride for a permitted time in the country of visit & would be identifiable as it has several language translations of your credentials.

ok, name it as you want, in French, it's the same name. The fact is that if you come as a tourist for holiday just a few weeks, you will obviously not have to pass an exam just for beeing allowed to drive a rented car or motorbike. The police and I think your insurance require an International Driving "Permit" (or licence), whatever you name it.

1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said:

No-it's a permit.

 

That is all-as many posters have pointed out.Too many..far too many..far,far too many..

I don't understand. in French it's called "permis de conduire", in English, "driving licence", so what's the difference ? I'm not sure to understand your post

23 hours ago, johng said:

There is no international drivers license.

There 2 types of international drivers permits.
Thailand recognises 1 type...but normally if your home country license has a photo and English language explaining license holder and vehicle categories there is no problems, of course you have to have motorcycle category entitlements to drive a motorcycle and car entitlements to drive a car etc etc.

Sorry but you are wrong: Thailand recognises 2 types: thai driving licence and of course "International driving licence", I'm 100% sure as I had to do it in my own country (Belgium), this is just a paid formality, I even had to renew my own 35 years old-national (big format) driving licence last year to the new european credit card format (and had to pay) before beeing able to renew my international driving licence which had only a 5 years validity. I come in Thailand since 2003 and I have already been controlled by the cops of course.

17 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

I read this story on a German website in German language; guess how good that will go down on tourism. The license checking remains the duty of the company renting out the bikes as an EU license is valid in many non-European countries. A Thai license is valid in all ASEAN countries except Vietnam (for whatever reason), so it might be really easier for the bike rental to set the record straight.

Anyhow, good news for tourism - again! 

Exactly, the company renting out motorbikes should NOT accept to rent if the foreigner does not have an international driving licence. 

6 hours ago, smedly said:

try asking them what a 1km fare should be and see were that gets you

 

it should be 25baht but they will say anything from 40-60baht

 

time for Grab to be fully operating in Pattaya - that should shut them up

Exactly !! They never ever respect the maximum fare per distance that has been written in the law lately I remember seeing that last year