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people with some mental illness pose the greatest problems as they can strike anybody any time. hope this person they are holding is the right culprit.

On 08/10/2016 at 8:16 AM, doremifasol said:

For sure they don't have his face......

that is why they are relying on a sketch.

19 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Talk about the blind leading the blind.

I wonder what qualifies him to be a "driving instructor"?

he must be in some strong position to say "do you know who i am?"

On 07/10/2016 at 10:01 PM, Brer Fox said:

Immigration don't give a rats about tourism. Perhaps it might help if Mdme TAT had a word in their shell like ear.

she is trying on many fronts. perhaps this is the one she needs to attend to immediately. first impression on arrival matter immensely to the tourists.

On 08/10/2016 at 7:24 AM, stevenl said:

Well, judging from the OP because there are not enough scanners and cameras.

inward apparently judging from the Denton report.

On 08/10/2016 at 8:37 AM, khwaibah said:

Nothing new in this. Immigration is opening more regional offices throughout Thailand and they do not have the personal or equipment to staff them. 4 hours to do a 90 day report at the new Buriram Immigration, no staff and no equipment.

when open the regional offices in the absence of the possibility of getting staff and the relevant equipment.

17 hours ago, Xircal said:

 

I think Mr. Denton's estimate is a little exaggerated. There were only four flights arriving around that time with two of them using an A320 which can carry 150 passengers, an 737-800 which can carry up to 215 pax and a third one using an A330-300. An A330 can carry up to 277 passengers making a total of 792 pax in all (assuming all four flights were full which might not be the case). If you look at the image, it looks like there were more than four flights, but apart from the last two which I've outlined in green, the others were all codeshare flights. The first four which I've outlines in red was a codeshare operated by Thai using the A330.

 

It's still a lot but those same flights would have been handled in the same way in the old terminal so I don't see what all the fuss is about suddenly.

three and a half hours to get through immigration and customs is anything but a harrowing experience.

coordination is such an integral part of an operation  that some  simple omissions can jeopardise the entire operation. a brand new terminal  building  is proving to be of little help in solving the immigration queues due to lack of matching number of computer terminals and processing equipment. the co-ordination process went haywire some where leading to the fiasco.

1 hour ago, Zikomat said:

Foreigners are the scapegoats almost everywhere. Now also in Thailand. 

welcome to the risks of the  tourist world but you are taking the risk voluntarily by going to such places.

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Do yourself a favor.  Go to your medicine cabinet and write down a list of all your perfectly legal prescriptions.  If you're as old as a lot of us, the list won't be short.

 

Then Google each one to see if it will ring the bell on a cheap, first pass piss test.  And figure that the more sophisticated test that will eventually exonerate you may take a week or two.  During which time you'll be a guest of the local jail.

 

My BKK doctor strongly suggested I stay away from bars where I'm likely to be piss tested.  He said I'd eventually be cleared, but why risk a couple of weeks of misery?

thanks for the enlightenment. most elderly are on a truck load of medication daily.

2 hours ago, DSJPC said:

and they think this promotes tourism???...idiots!!!...guilty until proven innocent!

i agree it is going against that thinking.

2 hours ago, freebyrd said:

 

Point taken, but your average producing documents and peeing in cups? If that happened to me in any country I wouldn't return and would make a point of telling others no to do so. Not a great way to attract much need tourist currency.

and believe you me the word of mouth  would be a very powerful medium.

3 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

i was wondering what happens if you refuse. think i would call a lawyer to witness it, would rather pay her than the cops. easy enough for someone to spike the container. military law is in place, does that mean the cops can do what they want?

if spiking is the intention it can be more easily done at the station. i think speculation should be left out of the equation and work on the assumption that the operation is being conducted fairly and honestly.

3 hours ago, hansnl said:

Good show guys!

Go on irritating tourists by confronting them with Nazi-like tactics.

Your neighbours are getting bigger smiles day by day.

When will realisation come to you that expats and tourists bring in a huge amount of money.

 

they think it is an effort to restore tourist confidence. it may work contra to that thinking.

3 hours ago, z42 said:

I can't quite believe (well, actually I can really) how someone up high in whatever uniformed "service/s" were involved in this latest fiasco doesn't realize that this kind of thing SERIOUSLY damages tourist confidence, and is frankly scary to many / most.

Just going about your night on the town, and suddenly being asked to produce your passports or piss in a cup without any good reason is scandalous. With the amount of crime and corruption in the city, those 200 officers would absolutely be better deployed in other areas.

A disgrace, pure and simple

i agree that it must be a truly traumatic experience for the bona fide  tourists.

3 hours ago, kannot said:

Welcome  to Thailand, why dont they do it at the airport a s soon as the plane  door  opens along with the chip insert, fingerprints, retina  scan, cavity search and 20k baht "security" deposit

and call it "welcome tourists".

1 hour ago, Americano555 said:

I'm gonna stay in my flat for a couple days.

you think it may be the best solution but i feel it is adopting a defeatist attitude. if you have nothing to hide go and enjoy your life in a normal manner.

26 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

There is no way that I will ever let the police make me provide a urine sample on the street or search me. They have no probable cause to do any of this and thus it is illegal. I will of course show passport and visa. If they insist on a search or sample- my answer is take me to the police station and I will bring a witness and a lawyer and to notify the officer in charge of the situation.  Luckily, I have never been stopped  but I do carry my original passport when going out in Bangkok. Their excuse of looking for potential 'terrorists' ring hollow as those stopped do not fit any of the profiles.

would that be possible logistically to  take every one of the suspects to the police station as it will take some time to get the lawyer and a witness to accompany the person to the station. i thinks such a system will break down under its own weight.

22 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Yeah, looks like this conversation soon is going to come to an end too. 

I just don´t see the problem here regarding the passport checks. They are quite in order now, when they start to try making
a clean up. It´s highly welcome to see that, due to the big amount of people residing in this country out of the wrong reasons.

About the urine check, I really do not think that they give everyone they check up the passport a cup. I would rather think that
if someone fail to produce a valid visa, then the cup comes automatically but then that person is already wrong and have to
face that fact. If someone is residing or visiting the country in an illegal way, then they surely want to see if there is anything
more that the person does that is illegal or any other reason for failing to show the proper documents.

There is also very easy to see if someone is high on something or have been using drugs, and then I am sure that the cup will
come out for all thoose people too. How anyone can think that it´s something wrong with that, is something I can not understand.

In my opinion everyone that have a problem with that, must have a reason for their behavior. Probably that reason is one of all the
things people can not do anymore as a turist or expat in Thailand.

I am not pointing out anyone or any kind of people or race, but for me it stands clear that everyone with cler papers and nothing to
worry about, doesn´t use prohibited drugs and have a positive mind would welcome all this.

Finally it is happening something and that must be positive, when most of all the people coming here want to feel safe. That is
something that all the criminals are taking away. Just good police work, and they definetely don´t give tha cup to people that
they clearly can see are not using drugs.

whichever way you look at it this would not be a pleasant touristy experience if it happened to me.

15 minutes ago, cruisemonkey said:

My winter vacation is all booked... in Cambodia.

hope you enjoy it. you might find a different set of problems there.

9 minutes ago, indieke said:

I have no problem to be asked something, but why bother me, if I am just walking the street, am 56, and look decent. In which city would they do that? More, these kind actions make "crooked" cops to hold you solo, again want your original passport, and find a way either to fine you and put it in their pocket.  

 

I am staying sometimes near Asoke, as I like the the  Terminal 21 there. There is a good barber, some good food places. Must I be treated like a criminal, to stay in this neighborhood?  I saw with my own eyes a Police-man driving on the sideways, to hassle a decent-looking tourist, and trying coming after me, because I witnessed it.

 

I do understand, that criminality, is a problem. But targeting, what are obvious, innocent tourists, is that preventing crime? And if they so concerned of that, why don't they close down ALL illegal places of their own? Because the police-funds will decrease, and nothing else.

 

And what worries me most, that the illegal goverment , seems to hold the farang responsible for everything.  Tracking with a phone, pissing in cups, fining you if you not carry a passport and so on. Thais can drive without a helmet, a whole family on it, no permit, assurance, but let them go, and annoy the first farang driving by, with his helmet on, and hoping he not got his international driving license.

 

By the way, what is a good APP that say correct phrases in Thai to these <deleted>?  

my sympathies go with you. you are apparently a clean person trying to make the best of life. yes these incidents like being randomly searched on the roadside will be disturbing. not a a very touristy spirit or experience I  guess,

4 hours ago, trogers said:

Why?

 

Safety for these business leaders in their after hours haunts?

because it is the responsibility of the host country to ensure smooth operation and safety of attendees and any measures that can help to reduce the risk is worth considering and implementing.

9 hours ago, anotheruser said:

 

First world problems...

longer term integrated system is necessary to solve some of the problems. this action to relocate may serve as a temporary measure but as observed by another writer, it will create  collateral issues like taxi shortages.

7 hours ago, zd1 said:

When I read the headline I was hoping that they would be getting relocated to Antarctica.

 

Probably the most dangerous form of transport on the planet.

both are equal contenders for the title. another element is the luck.

1 hour ago, Maverell said:

I trust some authority will publish what destinations the vans will serve from each bus terminal ?

Maverall what an idea although i suspect it may never happen. that information would be very useful indeed.

alternatively we may only learn from word of mouth or personal experience.