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3 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

i was wondering what happens if you refuse. think i would call a lawyer to witness it, would rather pay her than the cops. easy enough for someone to spike the container. military law is in place, does that mean the cops can do what they want?

if spiking is the intention it can be more easily done at the station. i think speculation should be left out of the equation and work on the assumption that the operation is being conducted fairly and honestly.

3 hours ago, hansnl said:

Good show guys!

Go on irritating tourists by confronting them with Nazi-like tactics.

Your neighbours are getting bigger smiles day by day.

When will realisation come to you that expats and tourists bring in a huge amount of money.

 

they think it is an effort to restore tourist confidence. it may work contra to that thinking.

3 hours ago, z42 said:

I can't quite believe (well, actually I can really) how someone up high in whatever uniformed "service/s" were involved in this latest fiasco doesn't realize that this kind of thing SERIOUSLY damages tourist confidence, and is frankly scary to many / most.

Just going about your night on the town, and suddenly being asked to produce your passports or piss in a cup without any good reason is scandalous. With the amount of crime and corruption in the city, those 200 officers would absolutely be better deployed in other areas.

A disgrace, pure and simple

i agree that it must be a truly traumatic experience for the bona fide  tourists.

3 hours ago, kannot said:

Welcome  to Thailand, why dont they do it at the airport a s soon as the plane  door  opens along with the chip insert, fingerprints, retina  scan, cavity search and 20k baht "security" deposit

and call it "welcome tourists".

1 hour ago, Americano555 said:

I'm gonna stay in my flat for a couple days.

you think it may be the best solution but i feel it is adopting a defeatist attitude. if you have nothing to hide go and enjoy your life in a normal manner.

26 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

There is no way that I will ever let the police make me provide a urine sample on the street or search me. They have no probable cause to do any of this and thus it is illegal. I will of course show passport and visa. If they insist on a search or sample- my answer is take me to the police station and I will bring a witness and a lawyer and to notify the officer in charge of the situation.  Luckily, I have never been stopped  but I do carry my original passport when going out in Bangkok. Their excuse of looking for potential 'terrorists' ring hollow as those stopped do not fit any of the profiles.

would that be possible logistically to  take every one of the suspects to the police station as it will take some time to get the lawyer and a witness to accompany the person to the station. i thinks such a system will break down under its own weight.

22 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Yeah, looks like this conversation soon is going to come to an end too. 

I just don´t see the problem here regarding the passport checks. They are quite in order now, when they start to try making
a clean up. It´s highly welcome to see that, due to the big amount of people residing in this country out of the wrong reasons.

About the urine check, I really do not think that they give everyone they check up the passport a cup. I would rather think that
if someone fail to produce a valid visa, then the cup comes automatically but then that person is already wrong and have to
face that fact. If someone is residing or visiting the country in an illegal way, then they surely want to see if there is anything
more that the person does that is illegal or any other reason for failing to show the proper documents.

There is also very easy to see if someone is high on something or have been using drugs, and then I am sure that the cup will
come out for all thoose people too. How anyone can think that it´s something wrong with that, is something I can not understand.

In my opinion everyone that have a problem with that, must have a reason for their behavior. Probably that reason is one of all the
things people can not do anymore as a turist or expat in Thailand.

I am not pointing out anyone or any kind of people or race, but for me it stands clear that everyone with cler papers and nothing to
worry about, doesn´t use prohibited drugs and have a positive mind would welcome all this.

Finally it is happening something and that must be positive, when most of all the people coming here want to feel safe. That is
something that all the criminals are taking away. Just good police work, and they definetely don´t give tha cup to people that
they clearly can see are not using drugs.

whichever way you look at it this would not be a pleasant touristy experience if it happened to me.

15 minutes ago, cruisemonkey said:

My winter vacation is all booked... in Cambodia.

hope you enjoy it. you might find a different set of problems there.

9 minutes ago, indieke said:

I have no problem to be asked something, but why bother me, if I am just walking the street, am 56, and look decent. In which city would they do that? More, these kind actions make "crooked" cops to hold you solo, again want your original passport, and find a way either to fine you and put it in their pocket.  

 

I am staying sometimes near Asoke, as I like the the  Terminal 21 there. There is a good barber, some good food places. Must I be treated like a criminal, to stay in this neighborhood?  I saw with my own eyes a Police-man driving on the sideways, to hassle a decent-looking tourist, and trying coming after me, because I witnessed it.

 

I do understand, that criminality, is a problem. But targeting, what are obvious, innocent tourists, is that preventing crime? And if they so concerned of that, why don't they close down ALL illegal places of their own? Because the police-funds will decrease, and nothing else.

 

And what worries me most, that the illegal goverment , seems to hold the farang responsible for everything.  Tracking with a phone, pissing in cups, fining you if you not carry a passport and so on. Thais can drive without a helmet, a whole family on it, no permit, assurance, but let them go, and annoy the first farang driving by, with his helmet on, and hoping he not got his international driving license.

 

By the way, what is a good APP that say correct phrases in Thai to these <deleted>?  

my sympathies go with you. you are apparently a clean person trying to make the best of life. yes these incidents like being randomly searched on the roadside will be disturbing. not a a very touristy spirit or experience I  guess,

4 hours ago, trogers said:

Why?

 

Safety for these business leaders in their after hours haunts?

because it is the responsibility of the host country to ensure smooth operation and safety of attendees and any measures that can help to reduce the risk is worth considering and implementing.

9 hours ago, anotheruser said:

 

First world problems...

longer term integrated system is necessary to solve some of the problems. this action to relocate may serve as a temporary measure but as observed by another writer, it will create  collateral issues like taxi shortages.

7 hours ago, zd1 said:

When I read the headline I was hoping that they would be getting relocated to Antarctica.

 

Probably the most dangerous form of transport on the planet.

both are equal contenders for the title. another element is the luck.

1 hour ago, Maverell said:

I trust some authority will publish what destinations the vans will serve from each bus terminal ?

Maverall what an idea although i suspect it may never happen. that information would be very useful indeed.

alternatively we may only learn from word of mouth or personal experience.

4205 vans operating from victory monument. that is is some parallel industry. does the entire bus net work need to be looked into as there is such a deficiency in the net work which has to be filled by the mini vans, valuable as they no doubt are. with the relocation,  an integration into the overall transport system could be looked into and perhaps more bus routes added or and the existing one tweaked in case there is replication.

18 hours ago, joepattaya1961 said:

so obviously the cutter wasn't disconnected

the freakin' plug is IN the wall socket

most likely scenario.of course the worker will deny his negligence.

16 hours ago, Sooo Upto Me said:

An no doubt the poor owner will hav to foot the bill. Mind u he's prob Russian in that area.  ?

he may have fire insurance policy and get it all sorted out with the company.

sure some human error. a short circuit is not possible from a disconnected appliance or tool. some element of negligence was there.

11 hours ago, 212Roger said:

The 34 year old "looks" young enough for me.

if the sex trade is going on so innocuously then it seems to have spread deep into the society. getting control over it it is going to be an uphill task.

6 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

Suing police for lost revenue?

ha ha ha . you made my day with the comment.

15 hours ago, hgma said:

any action to be expected from the minors family?

they might have sold her for all you know.

it went on five years. either the victims did not report the issue or the enforcement agencies did not do their job. good ending is that she was caught eventually.

too many remarks are personal and against the values of fair and objective comments on a subject. 

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No, they arrested people on the basis of their colour. 

absolutely not, those arrested were involved in illegal activities and confirmed to be so.

15 minutes ago, Monkeyrobot said:

The Thai police and Thai people don't care what colour your skin is, but the Thai police the Thai shop sellers and Expats who live in that area all know there is a problem with Mainly African males in the Soi 3 area selling drugs & many other illegal activities. So if they did use racial profiling to catch them and take a drug dealer and over stayer of the street good work. The quicker they catch them hence less the problem. Being a racist is someone who thinks there race is superior over another, the police are not racist they just know these guys are the drug dealers.

they raid could easily have been made to check on other tourists as well to make it fair.

21 minutes ago, wow64 said:

Agree it's bad for the one or two dark skinned gentlemen on Soi 3 that were not selling drugs or on overstay. 

 

Its not that bad just show passport and pee in a cup. 

but when people of one skin colour are targeted the matter becomes different.