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28 minutes ago, 2009 said:
You gotta wear a helmet in my country, numbnuts.
The Thai's have a saying for people like you: Those who don't know speak easily
Back to the question in my original post, which you didn't answer, .
Best be very clear here so you understand: If there is an accient In your home country, and the person driving is found guilty of reckless driving or DUI, is that person responsible for all injuries in / on the vehicle or is it capped at number of legal passengers?
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10 minutes ago, billd766 said:
Who did he refuse to give his name to? The police or the media?
He is under NO obligation to talk to the media, and if the media want to know, then go to the police station and ask the police.
I wasn't talking about giving the complete name and I really doubt anyone but the police asked for it. It's just polite to give your first name. That together with respectful behaviour is enough and we wouldn't have had to read things like this.
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2 hours ago, 2009 said:
Should the guy pay for head injuries (if they weren't wearing a helmet)? I mean, come on. It was their choice.
What's the law in your country??
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4 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:
Do you really think the witness would come out on the side of the farang? ????
In my 31 years in Thailand, I have never seen anything else. But then, I behave respectfully so I get respect from Thai witnesses.
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2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:
It's not proven he was driving under the influence of drink. No proof he caused the accident. Only proof we have is the Thais were driving illegally without the the legal requirement expected of them.
Did you forget that he refused to give his name?
So, would the innocent party in an accident normally refuse to give his name so that he can get compensated? Hardly... ????
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1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:Much the same as Thailand.
Personally, I wouldn't want Thailand to be the same as European countries. I'm here because I like the differences.
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14 hours ago, NanLaew said:
Only in an emergency would treatment be free for a foreigner. The notion that they'll treat any foreigners chilblains for free is patently false.
Agree, they certainly don't. But they are really cheap. And if you know enough to get to the right place for the job, you get good treatment too. My personal opinion only of course
A few caveats: 1) Smaller things and the big provincial hospital may not be the right place. Often very busy. I've had a few smaller accidents over the years. Sample: Bad service at the big provincial government hospital, got fed up and drove (that hurt...) 20km to a small local government hospital and got 11 stitches and really good service for 200 baht. A private hospital and it would have been 5,000 baht. 2) Few government hospitals are up to treating very severe conditions (note very). I'd say that not even many bigg-ish provincial hospitals can manage 70-80% 3rd degree burns. 3) You need someone to help you (once a day or so) if you're admitted to a government hospital. For the price, I'm Ok with that.
In 31 years in Thailand, speaking more Thai than English most of the time, I have never heard of a government hospital refusing to treat a patient without what I consider to be a valid reason. But I don't expect NHS rules ????- 1
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2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:
It was legally allowed to open as the restaurant it was licenced for..... but restaurants don't catch fire do they !!
There are different regulations for nightime venues and restaurants for a reason my dear
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17 hours ago, Ralf001 said:
Its a very simple concept.
closing time is 12am.
Fire started at 1am.
Am sure you can figure it out.
I am sure that you can figure out that both opening and closing time for a club that is not allowed to open is never.
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On 7/29/2022 at 2:27 PM, Russell17au said:
Remember you are not a Lazada customer. You are only using the Lazada platform for free. You are a customer of the seller who must pay a commission to Lazada for everything they sell. Lazada could not give a s***f about you because you do not pay Lazada, you pay the seller.
Not quite. I pay lazada and they pass on, same if I return, lazada returns the money. They cannot just pull the - we didn't sell it argument, they have part responsibility. That's why they remove ganja so often. Minimum legal age 20 and cannot confirm if the person actually ordering is of age. Lazada shows that they have part responsible themselves. Its just that they deliberately don't care about most things
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On 8/6/2022 at 5:31 PM, transam said:
What I find strange is that an electrical, foam/polystyrene fire would stink the place out well before the catastrophe....????
Doesn't look like that happened. The whole walls were clad with some kind of "sound dampening" foam panels, can't see if the ceiling was clad with the same material. There are pictures from after the fire where we can see that the wall foam panels are totally gone. The PU sprayed foam still looked pretty good considering the intensity of the fire. Looks like that was fire retardant foam
What was those panels made of?
Inside Mountain B before the fire
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My daughter needed to fix her broken bong so I bought 2 rectangular pieces of clay of the same brand in 2 different 7-elevens. One was 10 bath, the other 55 baht...
I've stopped trying to find cheapest prices, they're all over the place. If price is OK, buy, if not, don't. It's never ending otherwise
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One Thai news channel is talking about that it looked like there were 2 different types of panels 1) PU foam 2) polystyrene panels (they got that info from a picture they didn't show).
I saw one pic from the outside where I think it looks like the PU foam did pretty much what it was supposed to do. Some missing (no idea what happened there), some partially melted, some deformed and charred. It didn't look too bad considering what happened. I'm certainly not an expert in that particular area but I am an engineer. I bet that was flame retardant self-extinguishing foam.
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On 8/7/2022 at 8:59 AM, MikeyIdea said:
There's a lot about following regulations but they concentrate on number of fire exits, they must not be locked (a couple of workers openly said they were locked to stop people leaving without paying), places must be closed until updated.
I miss a discussion about not using materials that follow regulations. That fire really exploded, must have been flammable sound insulation and acoustic material. Thailand has regulations but... (TIS). That would have bought the guests 2 minutes extra, enough for them all to get out. So sad
Hope they get to flammable materials too. Not yet, not yet
OK, so the discussion in today's news have moved on to materials used in the construction. There's a lot about possibly flammable materials used, and tests to determine if what was used follow TIS standards. For those of you who as usual post without knowing anything, they also confirmed that TIS contains rules regarding flammable materials.
They're also confirmed that the ceiling stage lights were installed too close to the insulation panels. They were even talking about taking off the outer roof to confirm if building standards were followed there. That may be a bit over the top... ????
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5 hours ago, Geoffggi said:
What do the building codes stipulate ..................LOL
The building codes stipulate mostly the same as in the west so the lol is incorrect there. Its the implementation of them that you can use lol for
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4 hours ago, jacko45k said:
I am surprised they even sell and stock flammable ones.....
They are sold in Europe and the US too. Consequences are higher there though
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26 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:
I think they wear it, just because if has become habit.
But, after wearing one on a motorbike due to the situation, I will continue to do so. Bad air from belching buses and cars breathing in that garbage is not good to ingest. Occasionally, the ingestion and bad smell of that exhaust smoke stench lasts the whole day.
Yes, good, I do think it is habit, and out of respect. I can just look at myself, I still always put on the mask when I go out (to respect others) and I even forget to take it off when I come home. I can sit down and watch TV and don't even know that I've forgotten to take it off until my daughter asks me - why do you have your mask on? 2 hours later
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22 hours ago, overherebc said:
I'm just amazed tv bothers with it.
They do talk about it in a joking way, it's not serious
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1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:
One can only hope that they truly investigate this Shell corporation, pay-off's (Bribes), and then learn from the cause of the fire and institute safety measures and mandate all clubs using the same types of insulation are shutdown and only reopened once they have been fixed with true safety insulation. But alas this is Thailand, and I have never observed money flowing back into a business to keep it up to codes and safety inspections done regularly and fines levied if they are not. Sad really when one thinks about it. My GF and I like to go to clubs and listen to live bands, Hilary 1, and the club next to the LaT Prao Big C where I watched Sek loso and a few others. After seeing this the GF said sorry but we will not be going to listen to live music anymore unless it is at an outside venue.
There's a lot about following regulations but they concentrate on number of fire exits, they must not be locked (a couple of workers openly said they were locked to stop people leaving without paying), places must be closed until updated.
I miss a discussion about not using materials that follow regulations. That fire really exploded, must have been flammable sound insulation and acoustic material. Thailand has regulations but... (TIS). That would have bought the guests 2 minutes extra, enough for them all to get out. So sad
Hope they get to flammable materials too. Not yet, not yet
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On 8/5/2022 at 7:38 PM, peterfranks said:
And of course, plod was not aware that it was run as a pub, and open till late
Read Thai news, it's all there with documentation, signature and all. The police state that they were aware of that the pub was open and they've already passed on the case against 5 policemen to the district attorney
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9 hours ago, Kinnock said:
Real owners name too. Pretty sure the guy going to jail is not the money.
The police has been very quick distancing themselves, turned 5 of their own over to the district attorney for their investigation, we're probably going to see sentences for criminal negligence in this case (police visited the venue 3 times but allowed it to continue business.
Depending on how very high up the money comes from, I'd say its quite likely they'll follow the bank transfers and go for the one who financed this.
What happens depends on the da (District attorney) at the end of the dsy, not the police
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2 hours ago, Excel said:
So bank rolled by a Chinese person maybe ? Why would they want a pub anyway unless it was perhaps dual purpose for gambling perhaps
Why not? There are many Chinese small entrepreneurs out there. Many don't look that big, many wouldn't want to touch gambling because it is too illegal and too risky. Running a nightclub on the wrong license is just a little illegal and quite normal, nothing that a bit of corruption money can't fix until it is corrected also in China outside the tier 1 and 2 cities.
Many entrepreneurs of all nationalities see little wrong in using highly flammable cheap sound insulation and acoustic materials because its half the price. I bet Elon musk is the same, except that he's moved on to thinking the same way about much bigger things.
Until something like yesterday happens.
And I bet both a Thai and a Chinese (not confirmed) entrepreneur would think much more about what happened yesterday than Elon musk would.
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49 minutes ago, Excel said:
Sounds Chinese
It is Chinese, no Thai has the first name xiao but a few million Chinese do
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3 hours ago, Orinoco said:
Yes they are all so good in Thailand.
Where do you get that from?
Perhaps you should come with facts to sound more trustworthy
Tim Newton Today - Aug 23: Are Chinese tourists heading back to Thailand? New BKK observation tower
in Thailand News Headlines
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China won't lift restrictions this year. They have way too many elderly that are not vaccinated. I'd expect mid next year. The Chinese cannot even get a passport or leave the country without evidence of business trip or study etc.
They'll come when China opens for sure, more and more. Thailand is a popular destination and it seems to get more populsr too. Just have to get used to it. And they're OK when you get to know them, just loud ????