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Well, the Turks denied it. That's good enough for me. Keep sending them back.
Interesting to see you advocate civilians being illegally deported and quite possibly being exposed to the terrible cruelties of Daesh / Syrian army. I note the usual clique 'liked' your asinine comment.
Interesting to see posters advocating illegal immigration, throwing out the rule books on migrants, not expecting them to register in the 1st "safe" country they arrive at, happily watching them create sheer mayhem throughout western Europe, and silently supporting the inevitable move to 100% Sharia compliance in Europe.
All these migrants will be much happier in Turkey (an Islamic state)rather than the hedonistic west. Going forward 20 years when Germany, France, Belgium, Holland and the UK are under full Islamic control then I expect it will be suitable for more mass arrivals. Demographic projections show this to be undoubtable, and no, they will not be voting for lilly-livered PCs, they will vote the whole Sharia monty - be-headings, stonings and all the glorious trappings of an islamic country.
So far as I'm aware members do not support illegal immigration or 'throwing out the rule books' for migrants. However, your response is the usual drivel from neo-Nazi supporters.
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Well, the Turks denied it. That's good enough for me. Keep sending them back.
Interesting to see you advocate civilians being illegally deported and quite possibly being exposed to the terrible cruelties of Daesh / Syrian army. I note the usual clique 'liked' your asinine comment.
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Thai nationals can apply online for a visitor visa https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/600-/Visitor-e600-visa-online-applications
What are you trying to tell me not understand you at all .
My thai de facto got her vias to Australia last week I didn't do in on line we did by paper work.
Thai passport holders can also apply online.
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/600-/Visitor-e600-visa-online-applications
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Absolutely Bernie will rip up all these trade deals. These trade deals are not negotiated by the people for the people they are negotiated by Multi National Corporations to increase their profits and to protect those profits. They are all done in secret and even the trade deals themselves are not released to the public. The public interest is totally and utterly unrepresented and is a no consideration. Any Nation that have entered these trade deals the people of that Nation have been screwed over.
Treasuries of all countries involved in Trade Deals do not factor in ANY benefit from these trade deals into their forecasts. The reason for this is they have ZERO benefit to increased tax income, more employment or increase in GDP. They are all just sham deals put together to benefit Mult National Corporations.
Bernie would rather poke a stick in his eye than sign one.
The Impressive Benefits of America’s Free Trade Agreements
The results of this comprehensive study are impressive. The increased trade brought about by these FTAs boosted U.S. output by more than $300 billion and in turn supported 5.4 million U.S. jobs. No other budget neutral initiative undertaken by the U.S. government has generated jobs on a scale comparable to these FTAs, with the exception of the multilateral trade liberalization begun in 1947
A simple review of history is also helpful in rebutting critics who claim that FTAs have led to the net loss of U.S. jobs. For instance, one study by a labor-backed group contends that 60.8% of 682,000 U.S. jobs claimed to have been “lost or displaced” due to trade with Mexico were in manufacturing industries. However, Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) data refute this claim: U.S. manufacturers added more than 800,000 net jobs in the four years NAFTA entered into force.
https://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/open_door_trade_report.pdf
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Good post...Only if they can support themselves - that's your central premise and that is fine if you want to believe it. Yet many people can't through no fault of their own.
But if you follow the ethos of self dependency, then i have no sympathy for you for whinging about Mexican and chinese workers. Id say, fine, roll your sleeves up and find something to do that doesn't compete with chinese or Mexican inports. Only a small percentage of any economy competes in traded goods, there is a whole non traded sector (service professionals etc). You aren't competing with a chinese worker when you are repairing someone's car or selling them a coffee - go work there.
Id say, you've been too lazy to reskill yourself.
But yet here you are whinging about it - blaming someone else. I've never understood how that happens if you are supposed to be a rugged individualist..
And the real reason wages have been stagnant isn't because of the Chinese and Mexicans. Sure, they are great bogey men for the feeble minded to scream at.
US GDP has grown, profits have grown. Productivity has grown. What hasn't grown is the share of these profits to US workers. I quote a former australian treasurer here : U.S. real wages for the Middle class have grown 4% since 1990. Not 4% per year, but 4% in total. Australian real wages have grown 40% over the same period. Yes you are feeling the pinch while over the same period of time, facing the same challenges, our middle class are 40% richer in real terms than they were 25 years ago.
We've had the same stiff competition from China and SE Asia in manufacturing. This isn't unique to the US, no matter how special and unique you like to think of your selves.
What is the difference?
Profit sharing.
Not some socialist tax redistribution (our percentage tax take of GDP is on par or lower than you). It is allowing workers to share in those profits via a strong insistence such things as a minimum wages and industry conditions which reflects these gains in productivity produced by the workers themselves. And you can do this without raising inflationary expectations, which in Australia have been low since the early 1990s.
It isn't rocket science, but the right in the us continually object to any semblance of allowing the higher productivity of U.S. workers to be reflected in their basic minimum wage.
So yes, it is the rest of the western world, not laughing, but shaking our heads in frustration at the US. We aren't blowing our middle class up. You guys certainly have.
Only thing I would add would be to also mention the very large number of Indians into the Australian work force
To cut off any argument about Australia not being the same because don't have Mexicans entering the work force willing to work for less
Although it's off topic, there are instances of employer abuse, but on average 457 visa holders are proven to earn higher wages that Oz nationals by occupation. Indian migrants & other foreigners are in Oz on legally acquired visas, very different to approx 13 million Mexican illegals in the US. However, Oz has around 60k illegal migrants, of which around approx 5k+ are US nationals!
Good know
Australian employers pay higher salaries to Indians than they do to Australians doing the same job? Really?
Yep, for 457 visa worker overall wages are higher, although they do have to pay for private medical insurance. the stats have been reported - look it up.
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Only if they can support themselves - that's your central premise and that is fine if you want to believe it. Yet many people can't through no fault of their own.
But if you follow the ethos of self dependency, then i have no sympathy for you for whinging about Mexican and chinese workers. Id say, fine, roll your sleeves up and find something to do that doesn't compete with chinese or Mexican inports. Only a small percentage of any economy competes in traded goods, there is a whole non traded sector (service professionals etc). You aren't competing with a chinese worker when you are repairing someone's car or selling them a coffee - go work there.
Id say, you've been too lazy to reskill yourself.
But yet here you are whinging about it - blaming someone else. I've never understood how that happens if you are supposed to be a rugged individualist..
And the real reason wages have been stagnant isn't because of the Chinese and Mexicans. Sure, they are great bogey men for the feeble minded to scream at.
US GDP has grown, profits have grown. Productivity has grown. What hasn't grown is the share of these profits to US workers. I quote a former australian treasurer here : U.S. real wages for the Middle class have grown 4% since 1990. Not 4% per year, but 4% in total. Australian real wages have grown 40% over the same period. Yes you are feeling the pinch while over the same period of time, facing the same challenges, our middle class are 40% richer in real terms than they were 25 years ago.
We've had the same stiff competition from China and SE Asia in manufacturing. This isn't unique to the US, no matter how special and unique you like to think of your selves.
What is the difference?
Profit sharing.
Not some socialist tax redistribution (our percentage tax take of GDP is on par or lower than you). It is allowing workers to share in those profits via a strong insistence such things as a minimum wages and industry conditions which reflects these gains in productivity produced by the workers themselves. And you can do this without raising inflationary expectations, which in Australia have been low since the early 1990s.
It isn't rocket science, but the right in the us continually object to any semblance of allowing the higher productivity of U.S. workers to be reflected in their basic minimum wage.
So yes, it is the rest of the western world, not laughing, but shaking our heads in frustration at the US. We aren't blowing our middle class up. You guys certainly have.
Good post...
Only thing I would add would be to also mention the very large number of Indians into the Australian work force
To cut off any argument about Australia not being the same because don't have Mexicans entering the work force willing to work for less
Although it's off topic, there are instances of employer abuse, but on average 457 visa holders are proven to earn higher wages that Oz nationals by occupation. Indian migrants & other foreigners are in Oz on legally acquired visas, very different to approx 13 million Mexican illegals in the US. However, Oz has around 60k illegal migrants, of which around approx 5k+ are US nationals!
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For removal etc to MLB try contacting Asian Tigers in BKK.
For partner visa info have a read of the following...
https://www.border.gov.au/FormsAndDocuments/Documents/1127.pdf
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DIBP, ATO and Centrelink share information. The Departments definitely use data mining / data matching technology. At a minimum I would assume once your partner arrives in Oz and obtains Medicare cover based upon your sponsorship, Centrelink will be become aware of the relationship. BTW as a part of the sponsor application it will be required to inform Immi you have been in a de-facto relationship for at least one year.
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So, this all costs US taxpayers a fortune to be "the world's police". Europe complains bitterly about that term so the US should just pull out.
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Cheers.
Though I recognise you enjoy trolling in reference to the EU, a rather one eyed view of the world. Currently the trade between the US and EU is roughly US$1 trillion p.a. which creates employment for about 7 million people on both sides of the Atlantic, so just protecting trade and employment for the US economy one assumes is worth the investment by the US. In addition NATO forces provide capability and have lost lives supporting military engagements led by the US. In addition NATO, besides other responsibilities, contributes to securing global trade routes which is one of the core functions of our nations' military.
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As Aboriginals and Torre Straight Islanders are not recognised by the Constitution and in fact there are also a number of references to race in the document that allow governments to discriminate against Indigenous Australians, you have to wonder when government will get it's act together to arrange a referendum to update the Constitution.
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Changing the topic slightly...
...A Thai family have just moved into our street & live opposite our house..mum+dad about 50-55yrs old, then 4-6 16-25yr old siblings (who come+go all day/night long)...plus
a 3-4yr old, & baby.
Papa takes care of the youngsters all day.
This small girl of about 3-4 cries ALL day..she's a lovely little girl, but he slaps her & makes her cry at the drop of a hat..(she's crying even as I write this!)..but my point is that the rest of the Thai folk who live in this St see this, hear this, & accept it on a daily basis.
I want to go over & punch this man full in the face..but as you all know..that would get me in deep do-doo.
Thais never seem to voice their opinions, & just accept what's going on around them..be it good or bad. Ho-hum.
One time I witnessed a neighbour beating his son with an electric cable, Thais looking on didn't stop him & I was told 'not your business'. I told the man to stop, which he did.
Later I was at a doctor's office to check out the boy and get him some medication for the pain. Doctor told me if it happens again, thankfully it did not, next time let her know and she would contact the police who she assured me would take action against the father.
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The other thing you need to look into is the cost of getting a visa for her, last time i heard that this cost is now about 8,000 aussie,
Currently AUD6865.00
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and theres the bond for spousal visa, up to $15,000
Incorrect. Although the law does state up to AUD3,500 can be requested as a bond deposit for a spousal visa, currently there is no requirement for a bond deposit, only a signed declaration of financial and accommodation support.
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'... many on the left of the president’s ruling Socialists ... they said it created a two-tier nation and disagreed with the idea of differentiating between dual and solo nationals.' A two-tier nation? Surely the dual nationals can be described as two-tier. How the hell can they not differentiate between them and single-nationality French?
Terrorists choose their path. If they're caught, and are dual nationals, the chances are that they are French - or of whichever western country accepted them - by choice, not by birth. Certainly the British citizenship system does allow for loss of British nationality in similar circumstances - though I'm far from convinced that any British home secretary would demonstrate the metaphorical balls to carry it through.
Home Office has cancelled UK citizenship and deported a number of dual nationals
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I think an easier solution would be to just expel them. No job, go home. Protest on the streets, go home. Stand in a park and threaten your host country, go home. I shudder when I see videos of Muslims criticizing their host countries. Issuing threats, etc. Unreal.
Egypt had a problem in a village between Cario and Luxor. Men from this village were attacking vehicles and doing terrorist activities. They went in and create jobs. The men then had something to do. Some way to support their family. Idle hands are the devil's tool....
To expel 'them' requires govt to govt agreement which coincidentally is one of the major reasons why until very recently EU countries were unable to deport many of the economic refugees. Agreement are now slowly being finalised with a number of countries, I believe Morocco is a recent example.
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In principal 'yes'. Remember your Age Pension will be reduced if you haven't already declared you are living with a Partner. Partner would receive Medicare benefits and able to work in Oz, but not Centrelink benefits until transitioned to Permanent Residency.
To assess if you & partner comply with relevant criteria prior to applying have a read of the following...
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Sadly, the relatives may have had nothing to do with the terrorist act, but may have their lives ruined forever. If we use this philosophy, if your kid commits a crime, you'll pay the penalty. Even if they no longer live at home and you've not been in contact with them for years. Not sure that works out well...
You look at the wrong end of the rope. The idea of such a law is not to get the money from the relatives, nor to punish them. But a would be terrorist MIGHT think twice before he decides to act if he knows the grief his action will cause his family. This is the only way you might be able to stop those terrorist. Threatening them with the death penalty is worthless as they plan to die anyway on their way to "shahidness" and becoming the masters of 72 virgins.
The Israelis destroy the family house of terrorists, does this policy reduce acts of terrorism? Sincere question.
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Parent visa is for those being sponsored by their Australian citizen child with a current approval waiting list of up to thirty years.
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/103-
As the mother is currently receiving tourist visas it would be possible for the mother to arrive in Australia on Tourist visa 600 (so long as there is not a condition of no further stay) valid for three months and then apply online for a visa for temporary residency one month before expiry which permits stay of two years - normally granted within 24 hours and currently costs AUD6865), then transition to a permanent residency visa at no extra cost which leads to the future facility to apply for citizenship. Alternatively the mother could apply for a partner visa from Thailand, but waiting time is up to 12 / 15 months
A 12 month visit visa could be requested (no guarantee of being granted), but the mother would not be eligible for Medicare or work & should acquire medical insurance.
As usual cross check any advice provided via a forum.
Thanks, Do you know what qualifies her for the Contributing Parent, Sub Class173
As far as I can make out from the AU website there is a 2 year version, this can then be converted to the 5 year Sub Class 143 (which is only 8,800 Baht if she holds the 173 visa first)
This is the link I am referring to - https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/173-
These is Zero fee for the Newborn Child, then something about 67K Baht as another fee. Still confused!
So my understanding from what I am reading is that she should apply for the Sub Class 173 (which may or may not be 67K Baht, then pay another 8K Baht to change to the Sub Class 143)
Link to Sub Class 143 - https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/143-
Thanks for your help!
Just to underline I am not a professional migrant / visa agent, so only my personal thoughts.
With regard to the 173 visa I have not come across this approach before and overall the investment required appears to be greater than the traditional partner visa route. My understanding is such a visa requires an Assurance of Support bond of AUD10,000:
https://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/34aos
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Parent visa is for those being sponsored by their Australian citizen child with a current approval waiting list of up to thirty years.
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/103-
As the mother is currently receiving tourist visas it would be possible for the mother to arrive in Australia on Tourist visa 600 (so long as there is not a condition of no further stay) valid for three months and then apply online for a visa for temporary residency one month before expiry which permits stay of two years - normally granted within 24 hours and currently costs AUD6865), then transition to a permanent residency visa at no extra cost which leads to the future facility to apply for citizenship. Alternatively the mother could apply for a partner visa from Thailand, but waiting time is up to 12 / 15 months
A 12 month visit visa could be requested (no guarantee of being granted), but the mother would not be eligible for Medicare or work & should acquire medical insurance.
As usual cross check any advice provided via a forum.
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Condolences to the families of the Thai police. The killing and maiming in the Thai south continues on. What is the most recent death count? The Thai [press doesn't ever report this on a regular basis. What is the truthful death count in the Thai south?
As of 12/2015 estimated death toll was 6,500 since 2004. The majority of deaths are from within the local Muslim community An example of the stats as of 04/2014:
The statistics also showed that of the 6,097 deaths, most of the preys of fatalities were Muslims with 3,583 people, approximately 58.55 percent of the deaths, while there were 2,359 Buddhist deaths, approximately 38.69 percent.
http://www.deepsouthwatch.org/node/5904
From the names in the OP it seems some of those killed were Muslim.
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OOOH !.seems this hypocrite rattled your cage .
You didn't rattle my cage IC.
I've read and agreed with many of your posts over the years, I'll probably read and agree with many more going forward.
But this last offering of yours is an utter disappointment, I thought you where above the 'invading hoards' view of the world. Seems not.
Seems you haven't kept up with the EU / UK threads to which IC has 'contributed'. IMO the primary purpose of the OP is to encourage posting anti migrant, read Muslim, content
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Before I start with my views my condolences for the victims & their families..it's an extremely tragic incident...
Having said this I'm writing this hoping it might change someone's perception on what's happening..I've read people posting that they were Christians who were targeted..it might be true to some extent for the yesterday's blast but it was a public park many Muslims were present there as well..these kind of attacks are quite common & the terrorists do it without distinction of men women or children..people please know that the majority of victims of these terrorist attacks have been Muslims we have suffered the most being the allies..no one hate these low life terrorists as much as we do...Pakistan is conducting a very successful war on terror under the COAS..the army has been successful in clearing the tribal belt near the Afghan border & they are moving onwards swiftly ..I hope the west see these efforts & sacrifices & recognize it because in times of global intolerance we need people to bring hope..hope for a better world for all..thanks
From my reading I agree the Pakistani government has been targeting the various Islamic terror groups and sadly a large number of military / security personnel have lost their lives in the effort. On the other side of the coin the Taliban splinter group who carried out the attack have specifically claimed they were targeting Christians celebrating Easter as well as attempting to destabilise the current PM. As you probably know the PM has declared three days of national morning to recognise the victims and families. However, Christians are officially discriminated against by way of the Pakistani Constitution.
The constitution in theory does protect the minority rights but I won't deny that the minorities do face discrimination to some extent but they do have representation in the Parliament & there's a quota reserved for them in the services as well.. the system on the other hand is a whole different story..the younger generation is becoming more aware of their rights & the rights of their fellow human beings..people now know that we face a menace & we have to take care of it & it is being taken care off..
From memory it was ul-Huq, in his compromises with the hardliners, to minimise push back against his dictatorship that set the tone of Islamic extremism in Pakistan. You will know at least one minority, Christians, are restricted in their promotional advancement in the armed forces that I understand is documented in the Constitution and, for example, blasphemy laws used for oppression.
I wish the current and future generations of Pakistan every success to overcome extremism, corruption, provide secular education for the poor & eventual transformation of it's society.
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One thing is certain, neo-Nazi supporters such as you are not part of the solution.
Turkey is sending Syrian refugees back to war zone claims Amnesty
in World News
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Given you have clearly articulated commentary in sympathy with and support for neo-Nazi ideology. I find your denial ridiculous.
I wouldn't complain if I were you, you're given plenty of leeway to post your nonsense. You can report me if you so wish, I have been suspended before for calling out poisonous online persona such as you.