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Thailand dream turns sour as foreigners run out of cash

A Western content creator has warned foreigners against moving to Thailand without a clear financial plan, saying many end up "packing up and going home" after underestimating their costs.

The creator, who posts as Viajero, said the biggest problem for foreigners who struggle in Thailand is money. His video, which has resonated with expats and tourists online, argues that social media can create an unrealistic picture of how far savings will stretch.

Cheap at first, costly over time

Viajero said some online content suggests that US$15,000 to US$20,000, is enough to live like a king in Thailand. He described that belief as a serious mistake, particularly for people intending to spend their savings while hoping to find work later.

Thailand's relatively low living costs and favourable exchange rate can make travel, parties and dating appear cheap to newcomers, he said. But regular spending in these areas can quickly add up, with people draining their accounts before noticing the scale of their outgoings.

For foreigners considering a move, the practical point is that a holiday budget is not the same as a long-term living budget. Rent, visa costs, insurance, transport, healthcare and unexpected expenses can remain even when the initial excitement of arrival has passed.

Teaching work may not provide a long-term answer

The video identified English teaching, often seen as an entry route into Thailand, as another potential trap. Viajero said it may suit people aged 18 to 20 seeking life experience, but is not necessarily a sustainable way to build a long-term future.

He said he had met language teachers in Chiang Mai earning an average 33,000 to 35,000 baht a month. That can cover a small room and day-to-day expenses, he said, but makes it difficult to match the lifestyle someone may have had at home.

Teachers without a relevant degree and holding only a general TEFL certificate can also find it hard to progress into better-paid international school positions, he added.

Viajero also referred to what he called online begging, or e-begging. He cited a Western man in his forties who asked Thai people online for money and free accommodation after running out of funds.

Visa rules also require financial proof

The creator urged prospective residents not to quit work and relocate without a plan. He recommended building qualifications, arranging stable remote or online work before leaving, setting a budget and emergency fund, and deciding on a financial warning point before an account is empty.

He also advised people not to rely on family, friends or locals as a backup plan, and to make a short visit to Thailand before committing to a longer move.

Thailand's visa rules already reflect the need for financial stability. The retirement visa for applicants aged 50 and over requires either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank, monthly income of at least 65,000 baht, or a combination totalling 800,000 baht a year.

The Destination Thailand Visa for younger remote workers has its own savings and income thresholds. As Viajero put it: "Thailand is a great country when you have money."

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13 August 2026

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Babasino Rookie Member

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Very easy........no money......no honey!!!!!!!

JohnO958 Apprentice Member

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6 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Thailand without a clear financial plan, saying many end up "packing up and going home"

Don't even come in the first you morons!! STAY THE <deleted> HOME YOU IDIOTS!!!

BritManToo Star Member

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43 minutes ago, shackleton said:

I think the big deference is young youtubers bloggers ect

Want to enjoy the life style of working for little and enjoying themselves in other words you can't party for to long as the novelty will soon wear off

Us older retired expats have already enjoyed things when we were younger now married with family just enjoy out for a occasional dinner and beer not drinking at bars night clubs ect

Enjoy the retired scene slower pace plus the warm weather and beaches relax

You only live once as they say

I missed out on all the action as a young person, too busy with study and then work and marriage.

Age 50-60 in Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam/Philippines was total party time though.

I started slowing down around age 63.

Bohemianfish Advanced Member

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3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Yes you can, easily. Especially if all bought in, as monthly expenses can easily be around 40k or less. I've never needed on average of more than 40k a month, the past 25 yrs.

This is what my Thai wife tells me. Can see it as very possible based on our spending habits while traveling in Thailand and having a place to stay.

MIke B Bad Gold Member

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Capital, unless it's huge, is never a substitute for an index linked/inflation linked income.

Income is king for us poor folks.

BusyB Platinum Member

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4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

The rise of losers ... stupid clickbait title.

Most Youtubers are a bunch of shysters publishing anything for clicks.

If you had a teaching job at 35K per month, it's enough to live in Thailand.

But I guess 20 year olds want to go to bars partying 7 nights a week?

Is that what they were doing back home though? How do you hold down a job if you're going drinking every night?

Wherever you are it works for a few years. Till it doesn't. Then you've got a plethora of problems.

Andrew65 Platinum Member

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In my 20 years of living there many of my friends were 10 or 20 years older than me, and I would say that a factor in many of them leaving was healthcare, and that is part of the money issue.

When I left I was 53, and I hadn't been screwing around or in a relationship for 5 or 6 years before I left, so I left with plenty of money. Back in the UK I had to pay 7 months rent going-in twice (nearly £4k a pop).

BusyB Platinum Member

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3 hours ago, Mywayboy said:

I arrived 12 years ago exchange rate then 33 baht / Australian $ .

Thai baht over inflated for many years.

Definitely not economical to live here now.

Still magical country.

When I arrived for my first three months of paradise the baht was 52/€ ... imagine that.

MIke B Bad Gold Member

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2 hours ago, Muhendis said:

I agree. It's definitely not economical but certainly not a struggle (for me).

I'm hanging on here 'til the Baht gets back up to 72 - 75/£ then I'll start partying again if my knee joints are still available then.

I remember coming over during the financial crisis and getting 90 Baht to GBP.

We were throwing money out of the side of a tuk-tuk going down BKK Suk soi 4.

Liverpool Lou Star Member

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6 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

...but the visa situation can rapidly change at any given time with no notice

What does that mean? I'm not aware of any examples of visa changes suddenly being imposed with no notice that have adversely affected foreigners in Thailand, can you provide any?

Liverpool Lou Star Member

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5 hours ago, JJ-Thailand said:

According to the Thai authorities you can support yourself on 800,000 Baht per year. But the funny thing is that you only need 400,000 if you are married to a Thai lady. Can you live on 800,000 Baht per year alone? Yes, you can. Can you live on 400,000 Baht per year if you are married to a Thai lady (that probably don't work)? No hope in hell

The funny thing is that Thai authorities have never officially stated that any foreigners can support themselves on 800k, or 400k.

Liverpool Lou Star Member

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3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

I am just wondering why foreign people can work here as youtuber, influencer, or whatever name you give to someone who post videos and reals. It should be stopped to give a visa for that

Why should it be outlawed?

SAFETY FIRST Star Member

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6 hours ago, newbee2022 said:
hours ago, Georgealbert said:

A Western content creator

What is that?

I think it's a modern word for losers

Yep, I agree.

Sad thing is these losers of the world are broadcasting to other losers, their audience are fellow losers. 😂

KhunLA Star Member

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(edited)

The exchange rate is a huge factor, depending when arrive. For the USD, if at $1 / 30 THB, then all is good. You're happy, as 10% up now.

If 2000, and it was 40 to $1, actually went up to 45 / $1, short lived, but nice, bought 1st car then. 1st house paid for at 40 / $1 also in 2000.

But reality, when bottoms at 30, we / I, lost 25%. I don't think about that, and just think, 30 is better than 25 😂

Over the years, bottomed out at high 29/ 30 / $1. Been steady, 15+ years before Biden, USD stayed consistent, between 30 - 35. Which is fine. Biden was a pleasant surprice, with 35+ to USD, along with largest COLA, to Soc Sec, employer/govt pension plan.

Even now during DJT, who likes a weak USD, this administration started shy of 34 / $1, and now, still 33+ / $1 USD. In that 30-35 range, and makes most of us Yanks happy.

Edited by KhunLA

Liverpool Lou Star Member

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3 hours ago, bwanajohn said:

Penang beef curry for 5 baht

Penang curry? Sarawak curry is a better option!

Andrew65 Platinum Member

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3 hours ago, Babasino said:

Very easy........no money......no honey!!!!!!!

I can very easily live with no honey....but not with no money😊

unblocktheplanet Diamond Member

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6 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

What is that?

I think it's a modern word for losers.

No job at home

Not eager to work daily 8-5

No education

No money

Scrap the DTV visa for all of them

Pity you were never young. Would've taught you a lot.

novacova Star Member

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11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Penang curry? Sarawak curry is a better option!

Personal favorite is the wife’s hunglay, though she whips up some others that are pretty damn good

jas007 Platinum Member

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18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

The exchange rate is a huge factor, depending when arrive. For the USD, if at $1 / 30 THB, then all is good. You're happy, as 10% up now.

If 2000, and it was 40 to $1, actually went up to 45 / $1, short lived, but nice, bought 1st car then. 1st house paid for at 40 / $1 also in 2000.

But reality, when bottoms at 30, we / I, lost 25%. I don't think about that, and just think, 30 is better than 25 😂

Over the years, bottomed out at high 29/ 30 / $1. Been steady, 15+ years before Biden, USD stayed consistent, between 30 - 35. Which is fine. Biden was a pleasant surprice, with 35+ to USD, along with largest COLA, to Soc Sec, employer/govt pension plan.

Even now during DJT, who likes a weak USD, this administration started shy of 34 / $1, and now, still 33+ / $1 USD. In that 30-35 range, and makes most of us Yanks happy.

I think the unofficial target is 34 baht to the dollar.

I don't lose any sleep during the fluctuations.

unblocktheplanet Diamond Member

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5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Yes you can, easily. Especially if all bought in, as monthly expenses can easily be around 40k or less. I've never needed on average of more than 40k a month, the past 25 yrs.

We're pretty close to B700k if we don't travel. Can anybody live in the West for that? Of course, we own our house and don't have a car.

spidermike007 Star Member

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4 hours ago, Muhendis said:

I agree. It's definitely not economical but certainly not a struggle (for me).

I'm hanging on here 'til the Baht gets back up to 72 - 75/£ then I'll start partying again if my knee joints are still available then.

I am having one of them replaced next month, hallelujah! Just say no to pain.

timendres Platinum Member

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4 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

That's crazy, what is the world coming to. Now if you don't mind I'm going back to watching my favorite rug cleaning channel.

So utterly satisfying.

unblocktheplanet Diamond Member

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4 hours ago, 1happykamper said:

This article is probably geared at the under 50 year olds in a DTV. DTV has allowed all manner of wannabe into Thailand...many with little money and a very bad attitude and a liking for Ganga etc

Um, wait, another toke. Oh yeah, Ganga in in India.

Liverpool Lou Star Member

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(edited)
33 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

What does that mean? I'm not aware of any examples of visa changes suddenly being imposed with no notice that have adversely affected foreigners in Thailand, can you provide any?

Nice cherry picking of half a sentence from a post so long

I did not cherry pick half a sentence I picked an entire sentence and commented on what you stated in that complete sentence.

Edited by Liverpool Lou

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