webfact Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Gov't Proposes 6 Months Paid Maternity Leave, Debate Ensues By Chayanit Itthipongmaetee, Staff Reporter Photo: Max Pixel BANGKOK — Paid maternity leave of 180 days could be passed early next year if it wins approval from several ministerial departments including public health and labor welfare. The measure, which would double the current period and has drawn proponents and detractors alike, is being proposed as a way to encourage mothers to breastfeed infants and follows a recent act which banned marketing of artificial breastmilk substitutes. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/bangkok/2017/09/18/govt-proposes-6-months-paid-maternity-leave-debate-ensues/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-09-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Awesome news! A little late for my family, but I'm glad for all the future parents. It really is so much better for a child to be with their parent (father or mother) than to be at a nursery or with other family members. Breastfeeding is just one of many benefits that this will bring (if it is passed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I am very much a proponent of both woman's and children's rights. However, six months? Three months- sure, but six months? If I were a small business owner, I would not hire a woman of child-bearing age to work for me; the cost of carrying that employee for six months would be too much. Apologies if that sounds a bit harsh, but I do think it is an economic reality. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I am very much a proponent of both woman's and children's rights. However, six months? Three months- sure, but six months? If I were a small business owner, I would not hire a woman of child-bearing age to work for me; the cost of carrying that employee for six months would be too much. Apologies if that sounds a bit harsh, but I do think it is an economic reality. CheersGood thing for society thar you are not a small business owner then.Sent from my SM-N920C using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Pathetic, 3 months is plenty for maternity leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieranmc Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Three months is more then enough. This will most definitely affect the hiring of women in the workplace if passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'll throw some more fuel into the debate....6 months paternity leave as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieranmc Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ceruhe said: I'll throw some more fuel into the debate....6 months paternity leave as well lets go the full hog - once you have a child no more work period and fully paid lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 17 hours ago, JoePai said: Pathetic, 3 months is plenty for maternity leave Yes, 3 months before birth AND 3 months after the birth for breastfeeding.... unless you are Chinese... a quick squat behind a tree and back to work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Come on, get serious. If that government guy with countless wives and loads of kids gets paternity leave he'll never be in the office again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What pecent of the maternity mothers have a real job, ie will be entitled to a paid leave? This smells like pre-purchasing of votes from government workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang62 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There will be a lot of unemployed young ladies here in Thailand. Family planning!? Let their social insurance pay them during their absence. Not fair to the employer at any length of time it is a conscious decision by the employee so they have to bear the responsibility. This would also encourage more adherence to Social Insurance requirements here in The Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWater Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 18 hours ago, Stradavarius37 said: Good thing for society thar you are not a small business owner then. Sent from my SM-N920C using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I think his original comment is fair that is why in the west it is way less than this, why would someone risk hiring a lady of child bearing age running a small business when you will end up paying them for nothing for such a long time? I don't think it's harsh at all (the original comment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 With an economically incompetent military government running the show while walking the slow path to bankruptcy with it's multitude of expensive military toys and HS trains criss-crossing the country this parental generosity plan will be short lived when budget reality takes hold. With Thailand 4.0 at a standstill and with all the wondrous Prayut 20 year plans ahead Thailand will eventually be left in the dust of it's other prospering neighbours and eventually become the Greece of Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunOo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 19 hours ago, Stradavarius37 said: Good thing for society thar you are not a small business owner then. Sent from my SM-N920C using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Exactly! Great for society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On 9/18/2017 at 2:53 PM, Samui Bodoh said: I am very much a proponent of both woman's and children's rights. However, six months? Three months- sure, but six months? If I were a small business owner, I would not hire a woman of child-bearing age to work for me; the cost of carrying that employee for six months would be too much. Apologies if that sounds a bit harsh, but I do think it is an economic reality. Cheers No apologies needed I would do the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 You want us to support someone for 6 months and not work Not on my watch I was thinking of opening a business but if this passes I will do so in another country 6 months is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Not sure what the plan is in Thailand. Six months is very reasonable but needs to be paid by the government not small business. In Canada and most of Europe it is 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 15 hours ago, realenglish1 said: Posted 15 hours ago On 9/18/2017 at 2:53 PM, Samui Bodoh said: I am very much a proponent of both woman's and children's rights. However, six months? Three months- sure, but six months? If I were a small business owner, I would not hire a woman of child-bearing age to work for me; the cost of carrying that employee for six months would be too much. Apologies if that sounds a bit harsh, but I do think it is an economic reality. Cheers Assuming that the woman's duties were important (as otherwise, why would she be employed in the first place?), the employer would not only have to pay her maternity leave for six months while not working, but also have to employ someone else in her place, assuming that anyone would accept the position just for a six month period. This would make women less likely to be employed if a man was applying for the same job with similar qualifications and also reduce Thailand's competitiveness against other Asian countries with lower womens' rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: Posted 15 hours ago On 9/18/2017 at 2:53 PM, Samui Bodoh said: I am very much a proponent of both woman's and children's rights. However, six months? Three months- sure, but six months? If I were a small business owner, I would not hire a woman of child-bearing age to work for me; the cost of carrying that employee for six months would be too much. Apologies if that sounds a bit harsh, but I do think it is an economic reality. Cheers Assuming that the woman's duties were important (as otherwise, why would she be employed in the first place?), the employer would not only have to pay her maternity leave for six months while not working, but also have to employ someone else in her place, assuming that anyone would accept the position just for a six month period. This would make women less likely to be employed if a man was applying for the same job with similar qualifications and also reduce Thailand's competitiveness against other Asian countries with lower womens' rights. It looks like too many are against this I can understand someone leaving for 3 moths As a matter of fact My sister in law ( Thai) had been working for 11 months for a company was pregnant and had the baby Took a 3 month leave with pay and then after just quite Prime example of someone taking advantage of the system If you are going to do it have staggered maternity payments over a year so she does not get up and quite after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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