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Rescued elephant’s chance of survival is slim

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Rescued elephant’s chance of survival is slim

 

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A male elephant that was rescued from a muddy canal in Phitsanulok province has only a 50/50 chance of survival because both of its hind legs appear to have broken bones and were not usable, said a veterinarian.


Dr Taweechoke Angkawani of the Thai Elephant Conservation Centre said his team would do their best to help the animal.

 

The elephant was rescued on Wednesday after being stuck for about 26 hours in a muddy canal close to a national park in Nuenmaprang district, close to Thungsalangluang National Park.

 

However, the animal appeared to be exhausted and just lay on the ground after having stood in the strong canal current for so long.

 

The team of vets used two big bulldozers to lift the beast onto a truck to take him to the Thai Elephant Conservation Centre for treatment.

 

During the attempt, the vets noticed that the elephant’s hind legs seemed to suffer from broken bones or nerve dysfunction.

 

Taweechoke said that if it is the case, this elephant has slim chance of survival, perhaps up to 50 per cent, as it is already 15 years old.

 

“If it were younger or about 10 years old, it would have more chance to survive,” the doctor said.

 

He spoke as the elephant was moved to a truck about 300 metres from where it lay on the ground.

 

The move was being performed at low speed – expected to take some three to four hours – because of the condition of the soil and the weight of the animal, said Taweechoke.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30329673

 
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Reminds me on a story of an African elephant hunter who was active 100 years ago. He said he had observed that elephants who feel they will die soon  go to the water where they can stand until they die. Then they stand there often for days until their hour comes and they sink under water.

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The sad thing is that, because of the Buddhist way, the Thai vets will let this poor animal suffer in agony until it dies (in agony !) When or if it becomes clear that the animal is on the way out it should be euthanized.

I wonder if they will humanely euthanize it or just let it die a slow painful death? Apparently its against the law to put down animals even by a vet. GD bloody ridiculous. What callous, inhumane, merciless, cruel, dysfunctional treatments of animals they have in the "kingdom" LOS. Makes me sick.

 

Saw a dog yesterday that was hit by a car. It was left on the road to die while traffic & pedestrians went by it. Right in front of the GSB bank.  I was the only one that went to it to see what I could do. I called my vet, she told me to load it up on a tuktuk & bring it to her. 10 minutes later it was dead. This siht belief these people have is unbelievable. They just smile & carry on. <deleted> <deleted>. Its a living animal. It feels pain. Put it out of its misery!

I cant wait until I see a crashed scooter victim laid out on the road. I'm gonna walk right past & watch from the sidelines.

Edited by metisdead
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4 hours ago, sweatalot said:

Reminds me on a story of an African elephant hunter who was active 100 years ago. He said he had observed that elephants who feel they will die soon  go to the water where they can stand until they die. Then they stand there often for days until their hour comes and they sink under water.

Heard the same about bar stool commenters on this forum. 

On 10/19/2017 at 10:02 PM, SpicyMeatball said:

I wonder if they will humanely euthanize it or just let it die a slow painful death? Apparently its against the law to put down animals even by a vet. GD bloody ridiculous. What callous, inhumane, merciless, cruel, dysfunctional treatments of animals they have in the "kingdom" LOS. Makes me sick.

 

Saw a dog yesterday that was hit by a car. It was left on the road to die while traffic & pedestrians went by it. Right in front of the GSB bank.  I was the only one that went to it to see what I could do. I called my vet, she told me to load it up on a tuktuk & bring it to her. 10 minutes later it was dead. This siht belief these people have is unbelievable. They just smile & carry on. <deleted> <deleted>. Its a living animal. It feels pain. Put it out of its misery!

I cant wait until I see a crashed scooter victim laid out on the road. I'm gonna walk right past & watch from the sidelines.

Don't forget to take photos.

10 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

The sad thing is that, because of the Buddhist way, the Thai vets will let this poor animal suffer in agony until it dies (in agony !) When or if it becomes clear that the animal is on the way out it should be euthanized.

When all options are exhausted, it will be euthanized. Standard medical procedure. Don't get too carried away with this Buddhist stuff. Vets are smart first, "Buddhist" yada yada second. Ironic that such powerful animals are so fragile.

On 10/19/2017 at 10:02 PM, SpicyMeatball said:

I wonder if they will humanely euthanize it or just let it die a slow painful death? Apparently its against the law to put down animals even by a vet. GD bloody ridiculous. What callous, inhumane, merciless, cruel, dysfunctional treatments of animals they have in the "kingdom" LOS. Makes me sick.

 

Saw a dog yesterday that was hit by a car. It was left on the road to die while traffic & pedestrians went by it. Right in front of the GSB bank.  I was the only one that went to it to see what I could do. I called my vet, she told me to load it up on a tuktuk & bring it to her. 10 minutes later it was dead. This siht belief these people have is unbelievable. They just smile & carry on. <deleted> <deleted>. Its a living animal. It feels pain. Put it out of its misery!

I cant wait until I see a crashed scooter victim laid out on the road. I'm gonna walk right past & watch from the sidelines.

So you are no better than the people you complain about. 

2 hours ago, moe666 said:

So you are no better than the people you complain about. 

Right. I just standby, walk by & ignore an injured, suffering animal & wait for it to die without doing anything capable for it? 

I have more compassion for animals than I do for idiot humans.

Fools want to drive recklessly on a scooter (3 or more passengers) without helmets & crashes, let them. I’m not going to be held responsible or sued for offering assistance. (And yes, it’s happened).

If you have a problem with that, so be it. I’ll aide an injured animal without hesitation.

What goes around, comes around. Besides, a monk told me I was a noble lion in my previous life, so I’ll believe him & attend to my once four legged friends before an unsympathetic human.

On 10/19/2017 at 10:02 PM, SpicyMeatball said:

I wonder if they will humanely euthanize it or just let it die a slow painful death? Apparently its against the law to put down animals even by a vet. GD bloody ridiculous. What callous, inhumane, merciless, cruel, dysfunctional treatments of animals they have in the "kingdom" LOS. Makes me sick.

 

Saw a dog yesterday that was hit by a car. It was left on the road to die while traffic & pedestrians went by it. Right in front of the GSB bank.  I was the only one that went to it to see what I could do. I called my vet, she told me to load it up on a tuktuk & bring it to her. 10 minutes later it was dead. This siht belief these people have is unbelievable. They just smile & carry on. <deleted> <deleted>. Its a living animal. It feels pain. Put it out of its misery!

I cant wait until I see a crashed scooter victim laid out on the road. I'm gonna walk right past & watch from the sidelines.

This is utter rubbish.  I have had two dogs that became terminally ill and in both cases, different Vets recommended they be humanely euthanized before they started to suffer.  We were with both dogs until they breathed their last, and one of the Vets was actually in tears with us as the dog's life slipped away.  There are also many, many Thais who love and take care of different animals because of their love for animals.  There is one lady on the Island, who goes out everyday with food to feed the Soi Dogs and if any are injured, takes them to the Vet, at her own expense, for them to receive treatment. 

45 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

This is utter rubbish.  I have had two dogs that became terminally ill and in both cases, different Vets recommended they be humanely euthanized before they started to suffer.  We were with both dogs until they breathed their last, and one of the Vets was actually in tears with us as the dog's life slipped away.  There are also many, many Thais who love and take care of different animals because of their love for animals.  There is one lady on the Island, who goes out everyday with food to feed the Soi Dogs and if any are injured, takes them to the Vet, at her own expense, for them to receive treatment. 

Utter rubbish? You live a sheltered life on the island then. I've been told by a Thai vet & a Thai teacher that it is illegal to terminate a dog or any animal for that matter. Another poster on this forum has mentioned that its against Buddhist beliefs. (That is what is utter rubbish & they need their heads examined for that!).

I'm pretty sure you would have to grease the palm of a vet to have your pet humanely euthanized. 

Perhaps you've been lucky cuz its not what I've been witness to. I know there are some very compassionate people out there but more few than many. Its heartbreaking & sad to see an animal suffer because of some bs belief.

Wasn't there a story not long ago that two foreign women were seen taking a dog out to the sea & drowning it? They probably did that for humane reasons (& lack of any other option for themselves) cuz no vet would do it.

I've had pets all my life, (dogs & horses). Its the hardest thing to let them go but when its their time from old age, sickness or injury its the most humane thing to do.

2 hours ago, SpicyMeatball said:

Utter rubbish? You live a sheltered life on the island then. I've been told by a Thai vet & a Thai teacher that it is illegal to terminate a dog or any animal for that matter. Another poster on this forum has mentioned that its against Buddhist beliefs. (That is what is utter rubbish & they need their heads examined for that!).

I'm pretty sure you would have to grease the palm of a vet to have your pet humanely euthanized. 

Perhaps you've been lucky cuz its not what I've been witness to. I know there are some very compassionate people out there but more few than many. Its heartbreaking & sad to see an animal suffer because of some bs belief.

Wasn't there a story not long ago that two foreign women were seen taking a dog out to the sea & drowning it? They probably did that for humane reasons (& lack of any other option for themselves) cuz no vet would do it.

I've had pets all my life, (dogs & horses). Its the hardest thing to let them go but when its their time from old age, sickness or injury its the most humane thing to do.

I do not know where you got this BS, and BS it is. The Thai vet and teacher you mention are 100% wrong.
The animal anti cruelty legislation, Prevention of Animal Cruelty and Provision of Animal Welfare Act BE 2557 (2014)  has specific areas of exemption.
"Also exempted are killing animals for food, or humanely euthanizing animals with contagious or terminal diseases on advice from veterinarians or health officials."
There may be some vets with a Buddhist inspired aversion to performing euthanasia, but it is not against Thai law.
There is discussion here on TV about it. Look here:
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/81-plants-pets-vets-in-thailand/

 

Edited by Bill Miller

2 hours ago, SpicyMeatball said:

Utter rubbish? You live a sheltered life on the island then. I've been told by a Thai vet & a Thai teacher that it is illegal to terminate a dog or any animal for that matter. Another poster on this forum has mentioned that its against Buddhist beliefs. (That is what is utter rubbish & they need their heads examined for that!).

I'm pretty sure you would have to grease the palm of a vet to have your pet humanely euthanized. 

Perhaps you've been lucky cuz its not what I've been witness to. I know there are some very compassionate people out there but more few than many. Its heartbreaking & sad to see an animal suffer because of some bs belief.

Wasn't there a story not long ago that two foreign women were seen taking a dog out to the sea & drowning it? They probably did that for humane reasons (& lack of any other option for themselves) cuz no vet would do it.

I've had pets all my life, (dogs & horses). Its the hardest thing to let them go but when its their time from old age, sickness or injury its the most humane thing to do.

utter garbage and I speak from direct experience. When the time came our vet with great sadness helped my old dog along, because she (the vet) knew it was the right thing to do.

57 minutes ago, sedge said:

utter garbage and I speak from direct experience. When the time came our vet with great sadness helped my old dog along, because she (the vet) knew it was the right thing to do.

Good on you. I'll stand firm on what I know, have seen, have been told & have first hand experienced.

1 hour ago, sedge said:

utter garbage and I speak from direct experience. When the time came our vet with great sadness helped my old dog along, because she (the vet) knew it was the right thing to do.

 

1 hour ago, Bill Miller said:

I do not know where you got this BS, and BS it is. The Thai vet and teacher you mention are 100% wrong.
The animal anti cruelty legislation, Prevention of Animal Cruelty and Provision of Animal Welfare Act BE 2557 (2014)  has specific areas of exemption.
"Also exempted are killing animals for food, or humanely euthanizing animals with contagious or terminal diseases on advice from veterinarians or health officials."
There may be some vets with a Buddhist inspired aversion to performing euthanasia, but it is not against Thai law.
There is discussion here on TV about it. Look here:
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/81-plants-pets-vets-in-thailand/

 

 

3 minutes ago, SpicyMeatball said:

 

If you have difficulty with reading English I can recommend an excellent tutor.
Otherwise just read my post again and stop with the gratuitous nonsense, okay?
There is nothing but supposition in the Jomtien case that you reference.
I gave you the official and legal reference to the Thai statute that covers this problem. I gave you the specific information regarding euthanasia of pets that is covered in the statute, which has been in effect for three years now.
I would suggest that you might consider leaving the rest of the statement out and confine yourself to "...in my very limited experience ".
Yes, I am out of patience with people who could but do not read with any apparent comprehension.
If you have had difficulty with finding a vet to give service, then look a little further, such as on TV for which I also gave you the pertinent link.
No, I will not come to your place and euthanise your pets FOR you.

2 minutes ago, Bill Miller said:

If you have difficulty with reading English I can recommend an excellent tutor.
Otherwise just read my post again and stop with the gratuitous nonsense, okay?
There is nothing but supposition in the Jomtien case that you reference.
I gave you the official and legal reference to the Thai statute that covers this problem. I gave you the specific information regarding euthanasia of pets that is covered in the statute, which has been in effect for three years now.
I would suggest that you might consider leaving the rest of the statement out and confine yourself to "...in my very limited experience ".
Yes, I am out of patience with people who could but do not read with any apparent comprehension.
If you have had difficulty with finding a vet to give service, then look a little further, such as on TV for which I also gave you the pertinent link.
No, I will not come to your place and euthanise your pets FOR you.

I have no problem reading English, nor do I need any of your BS recommendations. As for the gratuitous nonsense, that's coming from you. Sure you submitted on this post the "official & legal reference" (you didn't give me anything, nor do I want from you) which has been "in effect for three years now", (you can GIVE that to all the licensed vets then & re-publicize it so its widely known).

I grew up on a ranch. I know more about euthanasia & ethical treatment of animals than you'll ever know so I suggest you keep your limited experience to your small self-captivated mind.

Your of a grandiose image of yourself if you think I would consider or even think your capable of any treatment of my animals. Your not welcome anywhere near them.

You just make sure you carry a copy of that "official & legal statute" with you at all times. Your gonna need it.

BTW, where does it say I was looking for a vet. Go back & read my original post. It says "I called my vet". Do you comprehend that English or would you like me to recommend a tutor for you on English comprehension. 

20 hours ago, tryasimight said:

Don't forget to take photos.

And lots of pointing

Some very interesting posts

 

Some rather upset posters

 

An interesting point we had a puppy dog obviously dying and  very weak; we went to the animal hospital at KhonKaen University ( we have many dogs and frequent the animal hospital a lot) and requested they put our loving dog down, they categorically refused

 

We went home and with a lot of persuasion got the local vet to do this, but even this was a fight

 

Even more interesting is the topic of euthanasia for humans and the criteria to allow it to happen

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