webfact Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Former intelligence officials say Trump is being manipulated by Putin By Sarah N. Lynch Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a briefing for reporters at the end of the APEC summit in Danang, Vietnam November 11, 2017. Sputnik/Mikhail Klimentyev/Kremlin via REUTERS WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two former top U.S. intelligence officials said on Sunday they fear President Donald Trump is being manipulated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, after Trump said he believed Putin was sincere in denying Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Former CIA Director John Brennan and ex-National Intelligence Director James Clapper both said Trump was mishandling Moscow ties even as a special counsel investigates possible collusion between Trump's campaign team and Russia. "I think Mr. Trump is, for whatever reason, either intimidated by Mr. Putin, afraid of what he could do, or what might come out as a result of these investigations... It's either naiveté, ignorance or fear in terms of what Mr. Trump is doing vis-à-vis the Russians," Brennan said in an appearance with Clapper on CNN's "State of the Union." Clapper added that foreign leaders who roll out the red carpet for Trump are able to manipulate Trump. "I do think both the Chinese and the Russians think they can play him," Clapper said. Their comments came after Trump told reporters over the weekend that he had spoken with Putin again over allegations of Russian meddling in the presidential election and that the Russian president again denied any involvement. "I really believe that, when he tells me that, he means it," Trump told reporters. "I think he is very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country." Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said on the same show that the criticism leveled against Trump's management of relations with Russia and China was "ridiculous." "President Trump is not getting played by anybody," Mnuchin said. Trump also took a swipe at Obama-era intelligence officials Brennan, Clapper and former FBI Director James Comey, calling them "political hacks" and questioning the findings of a U.S. intelligence report that concluded that Russians sought to tilt the election in Trump's favor. Facing sharp criticism, Trump walked back from some of those comments on Sunday, saying he has faith in the intelligence leaders he has hired. Brennan on Sunday called Trump's criticism of him a "badge of honor," and Clapper suggested said Trump's denial of Russian interference in the election "poses a peril to the country." When asked, Brennan declined to say whether he knows of any intelligence to suggest that the Russians have compromising or damaging information on Trump. A dossier penned by a former British spy contains unverified claims that Russia does have embarrassing information on Trump. (Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Dan Grebler) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamypoko Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Upset Putin today and say goodbye to a Red hotel and golf course tomorrow. I'd take a cheap shot at Rex, but that would be crude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 An average person of average intelligence can tell Trump is being played, but good on them for going public with assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: "President Trump is not getting played by anybody," Mnuchin said. Is that a fake denial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchjudy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 There are a lot of people in the USA with a big vested interest in keeping the cold war mentality.......they need bogeymen in order to justify their bloated employment departments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Clapper is a high integrity guy that lies to congress and to the american people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 If you can't trust the NSA, that spies on the American people, and the CIA, with a long history of overthrowing governments, assassinations and lying, then who can you trust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) No, not at all! Mr Trump don´t need any manipulation. He is fully capable of doing everything wrong by himself. Edited November 13, 2017 by Get Real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rancid said: If you can't trust the NSA, that spies on the American people, and the CIA, with a long history of overthrowing governments, assassinations and lying, then who can you trust? Nobody! Don´t even whisper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Trump worships money. The more money a person has (regardless of how it's amassed) the more Trump adulates that person. Putin is the richest man in Russia. He's probably in the top ten ww. Just as important, Trump has a loving hard-on for Russia. His first wife and mother of most of his kids is Russian. He was bailed out of bankruptcy several times by tens of millions of dollars from Russians. Trump has laundered over a billion $$'s of Russian oligarch money via Trump real estate. There's no mystery, why Trump licks Putin's shoes. on a side note: Where was Trump's first foreign visit as prez? Saudi Arabia. Who did he meet with there? Only the richest of the rich, and the top mafia royal boss there put a gold necklace around Trump's neck, for which Trump bowed and curtsied. Money worship personified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Get Real said: No, not at all! Mr Trump don´t need any manipulation. He is fully capable of doing everything wrong by himself. if doing everything wrong leads to becoming a billionaire real estate developer give me the signup sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: Trump worships money. The more money a person has (regardless of how it's amassed) the more Trump adulates that person. Putin is the richest man in Russia. He's probably in the top ten ww. Just as important, Trump has a loving hard-on for Russia. His first wife and mother of most of his kids is Russian. He was bailed out of bankruptcy several times by tens of millions of dollars from Russians. Trump has laundered over a billion $$'s of Russian oligarch money via Trump real estate. There's no mystery, why Trump licks Putin's shoes. on a side note: Where was Trump's first foreign visit as prez? Saudi Arabia. Who did he meet with there? Only the richest of the rich, and the top mafia royal boss there put a gold necklace around Trump's neck, for which Trump bowed and curtsied. Money worship personified. To be fair, the Clintons aren't exactly averse to money are they? Nor the Bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, atyclb said: if doing everything wrong leads to becoming a billionaire real estate developer give me the signup sheet. He did one thing right: he got born into an immensely wealthy family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUNCHER Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Is this the same intelligence agencies that said Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons and had chemical and biological weapons. Do you trust anything they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Thin line between manipulation and control. I believe it is control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, atyclb said: if doing everything wrong leads to becoming a billionaire real estate developer give me the signup sheet. Everything is possible with a bag of money and competent people around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amexpat Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: To be fair, the Clintons aren't exactly averse to money are they? Nor the Bushes. Nor are Lady Gaga, Bill Gates, or Tiger Woods. But none of them are President of the United States. 20 minutes ago, CRUNCHER said: Is this the same intelligence agencies that said Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons and had chemical and biological weapons. Do you trust anything they say? Maybe now that they aren't acting on Dick Cheney's orders to report B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, amexpat said: Nor are Lady Gaga, Bill Gates, or Tiger Woods. But none of them are President of the United States. Maybe now that they aren't acting on Dick Cheney's orders to report B.S. 'Nor are Lady Gaga, Bill Gates, or Tiger Woods. But none of them are President of the United States'. And two of the Bushes were, one Clinton was and one desperately wants to be POTUS. See the difference between them and Lady Gaga, Bill Gates and Tiger Woods? Clue: think of the word "politicians". If still too hard, then perhaps crack another Chang open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amexpat Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Please check with a news source you trust to show you who is currently POTUS. That's the focus of this thread. Enjoy your kool-aid. Edited November 13, 2017 by amexpat spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Wait for it! the Soros fanboys will be out in force soon.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberskin Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, atyclb said: if doing everything wrong leads to becoming a billionaire real estate developer give me the signup sheet. Well, first you have to start with a billion dollars, and then get bailed out by Russian Oligarchs and Saudi Princes, etc. every time you get into trouble. Just be willing to sell out yourself, your family and your country and you too can be a billionaire...and president. Environmental deregulation and changes to healthcare will kill more American's than any terrorist ever has, so sell yourself out to corporations while you're at it and give yourself a big tax cut to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Good Point Cruncher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, punchjudy said: There are a lot of people in the USA with a big vested interest in keeping the cold war mentality.......they need bogeymen in order to justify their bloated employment departments. What a conspiracy theory. Too funny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, atyclb said: Clapper is a high integrity guy that lies to congress and to the american people. He's head of an intelligence agency. When asked questions in an unclassified session, he can't tell everything. He's far from one of the worst. He made a mistake, but that doesn't mean everything he says is a lie. If that was the case, we'd all be classified as liars! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Emster23 said: An average person of average intelligence can tell Trump is being played, but good on them for going public with assessment. An average person of average intelligence would know that a presidents decision are made by his competent staff, and the president just announces them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, CRUNCHER said: Is this the same intelligence agencies that said Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons and had chemical and biological weapons. Do you trust anything they say? Hussein was developing chemical and biological weapons. He even used them several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: An average person of average intelligence would know that a presidents decision are made by his competent staff, and the president just announces them. An average person of average intelligence would know that's not the case with this president. He listens to nobody but those on Fox and Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, craigt3365 said: An average person of average intelligence would know that's not the case with this president. He listens to nobody but those on Fox and Friends. I guess you live in the white house that you know all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: I guess you live in the white house that you know all this. Nope. Just of average intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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