Xaos Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 How much they take from Pattaya bars and agogos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regyai Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 as much as the market will stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard71 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 nothing new here,old news with a new book cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I applaud the writer of this article but hope he is very well protected. Pat Phong, Nana, Soi Cowboy & Suttisan spring to mind here where millions are also collected monthly. Can we hope for some reprieve ? I doubt it I will stop right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21 hours ago, Sid Celery said: There are enough laws against corruption in Thailand and enough high people in Thailand talking about corruption being wrong, that there should be no doubt that it is not a proper course. Death penalty in China for corruption - no Thai thinks corruption is acceptable, many think, and calculate that they can get away with it. Sorry, the cultural argument doesn't wash. The cunning and dishonest argument does wash. In my opinion. Death penalty in Vietnam as well, both are Communist and corruption or embezeling is looked upon as crimes against local populace and stealing from the Government. I like the Vietnamese attitude towards crime, the punishments are so severe people think twice about doing it. a five year sentence in a Vietnamese jail could easily turn into a death sentence, they can literally work you to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Celery Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TunnelRat69 said: Death penalty in Vietnam as well, both are Communist and corruption or embezeling is looked upon as crimes against local populace and stealing from the Government. I like the Vietnamese attitude towards crime, the punishments are so severe people think twice about doing it. a five year sentence in a Vietnamese jail could easily turn into a death sentence, they can literally work you to death. Maybe that beats the Thai system then, where if you're rich and can grease the right palms, then it's likely no jail time at all. Mind you, given that corruption is both a 3rd-world problem and seems to be more of a problem with warmer climes, I expect Vietnam also has a corruption problem. Never been there but it's on my bucket list, nestling comfortably between Tibet and Bhutan... Edited November 21, 2017 by Sid Celery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, zzidenn said: I don’t think most people would run, it depends on your upbringing and social circumstances. "And run" was a figure if speach, not meant in the literal way..i often use coloquials and slang that others might misunderstand but i prefer a more colorful prose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here It Is Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Sid Celery said: That was me, my friend, and, as you know, that is not what I said. You tell me what you meant as you change your story as often as the wind changes direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiChakayan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Here It Is said: You tell me what you meant as you change your story as often as the wind changes direction. Here it is is back: the agent provocateur.. from another forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Celery Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Here It Is said: You tell me what you meant as you change your story as often as the wind changes direction. Read the words I wrote, it's all there. It's not that hard. Usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here It Is Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sid Celery said: Read the words I wrote, it's all there. It's not that hard. Usually. Oh yes. You find all Thais dishonest almost without exception, except for your very small clique of exclusive friends. Now I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Celery Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, KiChakayan said: Here it is is back: the agent provocateur.. from another forum? Take no notice, anyone who can't read a simple and straightforward sentence without getting it wrong has got enough problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Celery Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Here It Is said: Oh yes. You find all Thais dishonest almost without exception, except for your very small clique of exclusive friends. Now I remember. Not what I said either, but do keep trying. If at first you don't succeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here It Is Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Sid Celery said: Not what I said either, but do keep trying. If at first you don't succeed... Please elaborate, Sid. I know what you said though some of it appears to have been deleted by admin as it was against forum rules. So let's lay it on the line rather than all the poncing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Celery Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I wrote what I wrote. Last reply to you until you learn how not to tell porkie pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here It Is Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sid Celery said: I wrote what I wrote. Last reply to you until you learn how not to tell porkie pies. I've stated what I understand you implied so up to you to rebut. You're poncing about again, Sid. How hard is it to inform what you meant? You clearly stated that you find Thais dishonest in the majority, is that correct? I'm giving you a chance here. Edited November 21, 2017 by Here It Is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Bribes? Uh-oh...reality has a bitter tase. Thai police taking bribes, who would have thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 hours ago, Happyman58 said: Colour never fazed the officials here If they cant get brown enevlopes they will accept white envelopes No problem They will find out in 50 years or so... Then the white one will be banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemaker Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:29 AM, Here It Is said: I'm not arguing with you, Sid. You have already explained that you find Thais are dishonest with very few exceptions. I find the majority of Thai honest and will pay the tea money as they are brought up to be. You're definitely making a monkey out of me. If you can't get to grips with the culture then what are you doing here? Hmmm, not sure culture is the right word here, whats Bloody cultural about it ? how about the following, Thieves, Fraudsters, scammers, Liars, cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teacher Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 20 hours ago, PAIBKK said: Thai logic: Ban the production, import and sales of brown envelopes. If there are no brown envelopes, they can't be filled with money and handed over. If there are no brown envelopes, they can't be used for corruption! No brown envelopes = No corruption !!! Thai corruption problem solved !!! My thoughts exactly...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzidenn Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 4:12 PM, kaorop said: "And run" was a figure if speach, not meant in the literal way..i often use coloquials and slang that others might misunderstand but i prefer a more colorful prose.. oh yes i totally misunderstood your colorful prose because i thought you meant „run“ literally obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelman6 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Is this a SHOCK to anyone who lives in Thailand? IT IS Nationwide and always has been. It is time to CLEAN it up, once and for all, especially for the good of the Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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