So, there are no scientific studies, that have had their results replicated, that confirm the existence of different genders [other than straight, gay, lesbian] - that have a biological  origin?

Oh geez. Are you serious? Gay and lesbian aren't genders.

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Well done to the police for giving us a really funny "Thread" to get our teeth into
 
Sorry if it offended any of the "alternatives" [emoji15]
 
The horse photo was my favorite (by the way, what happened to it ?)

Alternatives to being fair minded and educated?

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27 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

So, there are no scientific studies, that have had their results replicated, that confirm the existence of different genders [other than straight, gay, lesbian] - that have a biological  origin?

Males have the XY chromosome and females have the XX chromsome. And all the lipstick in the world wont change anything.

Males have the XY chromosome and females have the XX chromsome. And all the lipstick in the world wont change anything.

Perhaps not but hormones and surgical procedures change a lot.

Much transphobia to observe here.

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1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Males have the XY chromosome and females have the XX chromsome. And all the lipstick in the world wont change anything.

That's good to know.  After reading this thread I thought it changed them into low life thieves.

Argumentum  adhomiem  is the last refuge  of the poorly educated.
 
Where are the verified scientific studies?

You're asking the wrong question. It's about how they self identify. There may be some biological component but that's not very relevant to people that identify as transgender in their daily lives and struggle to be happy and live their lives as their true selves.

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I think  that I  am  a  lesbian.  I like naked women,  I enjoy their movies, so I should have  the right to shower in  the woman's locker room.  Anything else would  be  uncivilized!

Enough with the straight male obsession with bathrooms and showers. I know you think you're being clever and funny but the mental anguish and social stigma transgender people go through trying to cope with their very real situation isn't always such a big funny joke.

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Solicitors .Never liked them much .

Hope they make a start on corrupt barristers and judges next.

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cisgender

 

Interesting. Reading between the lines, you have implied that ALL transgender sex workers are thieves and that ALL of them have the same style of thieving (can't be subtle like the cisgender ones that are more "subtle" about it or NOT AT ALL). Great example of the irrational bigotry I have been noticing. Wow. 

Ah, so a cisgender is someone who has not decided he wants to be another sex. Hardly needs a specialist word of its own, normal works. I have said it as it is perceived, I hold no torch for them and wish they were swept from the streets.

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Ah, so a cisgender is someone who has not decided he wants to be another sex. Hardly needs a specialist word of its own, normal works. I have said it as it is perceived, I hold no torch for them and wish they were swept from the streets.

No!! Cisgender is straight, normal, just a regular guy or about 95% of the male population.

Definition of cisgender

: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cisgender

 

JiangThing loves to use technical or psychiatric terms for people to muddy the water.  Why call someone straight or hetrosexual when you can call him cisgendered.  Why admit to enjoying the "pleasures" of a ladyboy and get called a f*g*o* when you can say " I"m skoliosexual."

 

 

 

 

6 hours ago, greatwhitenorth said:

No!! Cisgender is straight, normal, just a regular guy or about 95% of the male population.

Definition of cisgender

: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cisgender

 

JiangThing loves to use technical or psychiatric terms for people to muddy the water.  Why call someone straight or hetrosexual when you can call him cisgendered.  Why admit to enjoying the "pleasures" of a ladyboy and get called a f*g*o* when you can say " I"m skoliosexual."

 

 

 

 

Cisgender / Transgender is not about sexual orientation. It's about GENDER IDENTITY. I find your post ignorant and aggressively anti-intellectual. Reminds me of the POV of most trump supporters. It's important to have words for things in the world. 

 

I think the jury is still out on whether cisgender becomes a stable word in English. I think it will because it is USEFUL. I'm assuming it developed for a couple of good reasons. Academic studies which are talking about transgender issues needed a word to describe people that are not transgender. Also, transgender people themselves, even though obviously a small minority, might group together socially, so cisgender is a word to describe the people not like them,  again, nobody is denying that's the vast majority of people in the world. 

Edited November 28, 20178 yr by Jingthing

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not at all. It's seems that you are the confused one here.

Transgender / Cisgender are about gender identity.

Gay / Straight / Bisexual / Asexual are about sexual orientation.

Not the same thing.

This is basic stuff.

Why is that so hard for you (and so many others)?

 I guess if I don t eat cheese for example, there likely would be little interest in learning the much about cheese. There's yellow cheese and white cheese but I don't eat cheese. I don 't need to know  the suttle differences between gouda and edam.

 

I' m straight. My wife is straight. I don 't have an interest in relations with anyone other than a natural born female. What those that indulge in other forms of sexual relations, they are really just yellow or white cheese to me.  As for learning new names for old behaviours, I have old names for those behaviours that everyone understands

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46 minutes ago, greatwhitenorth said:

 I guess if I don t eat cheese for example, there likely would be little interest in learning the much about cheese. There's yellow cheese and white cheese but I don't eat cheese. I don 't need to know  the suttle differences between gouda and edam.

 

I' m straight. My wife is straight. I don 't have an interest in relations with anyone other than a natural born female. What those that indulge in other forms of sexual relations, they are really just yellow or white cheese to me.  As for learning new names for old behaviours, I have old names for those behaviours that everyone understands

So basically the Archie Bunker defense. 

Whores are whores are whores regardless of their gender but more importantly people from a poor background with little education who become prostitutes are often more concerned with making money by any means possible than the finer aspects of life or manners or behaviour.

 

A person like that who happens also to be a ladyboy when confronted by an ignorant bloke who is discombobulated because his body is saying, 'YES" while his sensibilities in fear of being deemed "Gay" scream "NO",  can often respond violently.

 

Of course there are groups of hookers whose real business is stealing and mugging from men who come into their hemisphere. Some are ladyboys some are girls. Ladyboy gangs are more visible and less subtle. 

 

The hate aimed at ladyboys addresses an issue akin to the BLM in the US. Do cops go out to arrest and kill more blacks just because they are racist OR do blacks commit more crime? 

 

It's interesting as well that little hate is aimed at gay people per say as that is now considered a sackable offence and designated hate speech but ladyboys and those who may favour them are routinely the targets of hate as if they fall outside the 'safe zone' and are easy prey for people to insult and ridicule. Personally, it seems to me, the more someone insults them the more they probably wished they could either be one or have sex with one? Otherwise, why bother to comment?

 

As far as men 'enjoying' ladyboys being gay, definitely not. Gay men enjoy masculine men who look and behave as men NOT those who look and behave like women. It does not even make sense to draw that conclusion.

 

Ridiculous above :                     pp 1. Equating ladyboys with female prostitutes - bs.             pp 2. Yes they are more violent because they are whacked out.  Females do not attack in that context       pp 3. Most by far of these groups are ladyboys.               pp 5. Wished they could be a ladyboy ????? This has to be the most off the wall comment in history of this forum.                                       pp 6. Ladyboys have the XY chromosome - End of story.

Edited November 30, 20178 yr by morrobay