webfact Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Britain nears deal with EU in Irish border Brexit talks - The Times (Reuters) - Britain is close to a deal over the Northern Ireland border, after British officials made proposals this week to avoid a "hard border" in Ireland, according to Thursday's edition of The Times newspaper. The EU has named the border as one of three issues on which "sufficient progress" must be made in order to allow progress to talks on a future trade agreement with Britain, crucial for British businesses. EU leaders are preparing to offer a two-year Brexit transition deal as early as January after negotiators were close to a deal over the border, The Times said citing EU sources. The EU will also pledge to speed up approval for a transition deal that maintains Britain's present relationship with the EU at a summit in Brussels next month, paper added. Britain and the EU have reached agreement on a Brexit divorce bill which is likely to finally total around 50 billion euros, British newspapers reported on Tuesday, potentially heralding a breakthrough in the negotiations. (Reporting by Abinaya Vijayaraghavan in BengaluruEditing by Sandra Maler) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What border deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Grouse said: What border deal? "EU leaders are preparing to offer a two-year Brexit transition deal as early as January after negotiators were close to a deal over the border, The Times said citing EU sources." "Britain and the EU have reached agreement on a Brexit divorce bill which is likely to finally total around 50 billion euros, British newspapers reported on Tuesday, potentially heralding a breakthrough in the negotiations." I suspect the 2 are closely related - and the payment mentioned in the 2nd para. the reason why "negotiators were close to a deal over the border"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 A normal negotiating tactic - whether between countries or companies or management & unions: Pay me enough and we can be flexible on everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Grouse said: What border deal? Hard to see how in 24 hours it has gone from being the elephant in the room to being a mere distraction that can be easily sorted. A two year transition period was expected but I cannot see how the two issues are connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Ireland is threatening to block progress in Brexit negotiations without a guarantee on the border. That has been said today so I think to say that a deal is close is a bit off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What border deal? I won't ask again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Grouse said: What border deal? I won't ask again! I don't think there is a deal, just hot air from "someone" in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Actually difficult to see how there CAN be a deal on the border issue - too many contradictions on all sides. A circle that's going to be difficult to square even for clever politicians, and there don't seem to be too many of those at Westminster. Perhaps technology may provide some kind of solution (like e-passes as you whiz through the toll booths) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, dunroaming said: Hard to see how in 24 hours it has gone from being the elephant in the room to being a mere distraction that can be easily sorted. A two year transition period was expected but I cannot see how the two issues are connected. It's very easy to see why: money talks, bs walks. ROI is walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, dunroaming said: Ireland is threatening to block progress in Brexit negotiations without a guarantee on the border. That has been said today so I think to say that a deal is close is a bit off the mark. You should have taken notice of the UK government's slap-down of the ROI over this a few days ago. All has now become clear. ROI is now on it's own. Edited November 30, 2017 by Khun Han Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 hours ago, mfd101 said: Actually difficult to see how there CAN be a deal on the border issue - too many contradictions on all sides. A circle that's going to be difficult to square even for clever politicians, and there don't seem to be too many of those at Westminster. Perhaps technology may provide some kind of solution (like e-passes as you whiz through the toll booths) ... "Perhaps technology may provide some kind of solution (like e-passes as you whiz through the toll booths) ..." Not quite bingo, but you're not far off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Khun Han said: You should have taken notice of the UK government's slap-down of the ROI over this a few days ago. All has now become clear. ROI is now on it's own. You mean like we should have taken notice of the UK government's refusal to increase it's Brexit payment to the EU? I've got some news for you: Britain close to Irish border deal "EU leaders are preparing to offer a two-year Brexit transition deal as early as January after negotiators said that they were close to a breakthrough over the Northern Ireland border. British officials tabled proposals this week to avoid a “hard border” in Ireland that could unblock the last remaining major obstacle to a deal, The Times understands. In return the EU will pledge at a summit in Brussels next month to speed up approval for a transition deal that maintains Britain’s present relationship with the EU, reassuring businesses that might otherwise begin implementing plans for a hard Brexit. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-britain-close-to-irish-border-deal-pltcgrvcj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 47 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: You mean like we should have taken notice of the UK government's refusal to increase it's Brexit payment to the EU? I've got some news for you: Britain close to Irish border deal "EU leaders are preparing to offer a two-year Brexit transition deal as early as January after negotiators said that they were close to a breakthrough over the Northern Ireland border. British officials tabled proposals this week to avoid a “hard border” in Ireland that could unblock the last remaining major obstacle to a deal, The Times understands. In return the EU will pledge at a summit in Brussels next month to speed up approval for a transition deal that maintains Britain’s present relationship with the EU, reassuring businesses that might otherwise begin implementing plans for a hard Brexit. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-britain-close-to-irish-border-deal-pltcgrvcj I bet they dare not tell the DUP! That awful woman will be as mad as a wet hen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 23 hours ago, ilostmypassword said: You mean like we should have taken notice of the UK government's refusal to increase it's Brexit payment to the EU? I've got some news for you: Britain close to Irish border deal "EU leaders are preparing to offer a two-year Brexit transition deal as early as January after negotiators said that they were close to a breakthrough over the Northern Ireland border. British officials tabled proposals this week to avoid a “hard border” in Ireland that could unblock the last remaining major obstacle to a deal, The Times understands. In return the EU will pledge at a summit in Brussels next month to speed up approval for a transition deal that maintains Britain’s present relationship with the EU, reassuring businesses that might otherwise begin implementing plans for a hard Brexit. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-britain-close-to-irish-border-deal-pltcgrvcj Everything is suddenly falling into place now the money has been agreed. Kerching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taipeir Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Yes it is falling into place...for Ireland to decide the matter. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42202830 Take back control !!! :) When will these idiots realise it's not only about the money and EU members will stick up for each other. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, taipeir said: Yes it is falling into place...for Ireland to decide the matter. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42202830 Take back control !!! :) When will these idiots realise it's not only about the money and EU members will stick up for each other. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Indeed! May should tell the DUP to take a hike and keep the 1 billion. Glaringly obvious that NI should stay in the customs union at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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