Lawyer lodges complaint against two lottery vendors and a schoolteacher

 

 

The lawyer of a retired police officer who claimed to be the real owner of five First Prize lottery tickets lodged a complaint with Kanchanaburi’s Muang district police, demanding legal actions to be taken against two lottery vendors and a schoolteacher who challenged the lottery ownership of the retired officer.

 

Mr Sitthra Biabungkerd demanded police to take legal action the two lottery vendors, Mrs Rattanaporn Supathip and Ms Patcharida Promta, accusing them of overcharing lottery tickets.

 

Presenting two pieces of evidence, one is the image of the five First Prize lottery tickets he took with a cellphone and another a clip showing the two vendors with the schoolteacher, Mr Preecha Kraikruan, in a TV programme of Channel 3, Mr Sitthra said that police are yet to take any legal action against the two vendors.

 

The retired police officer, Pol Lt Charoon Wimoon, bought the five tickets at 700 baht from Mrs Rattaporn who got the lottery tickets from another vendor, Ms Patcharida.

 

The lawyer said that he would like to know whether the two vendors got the lottery tickets in question at overcharged prices or it was them who overcharged the tickets.

 

Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/lawyer-lodges-complaint-two-lottery-vendors-schoolteacher/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-12-11

Ducking and diving

I was hanging for the Lie detector result, what happened to that?

21 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Mr Sitthra said that police are yet to take any legal action against the two vendors.

That I suspect is because there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they have done anything wrong. I see this as a guy who says the tickets are his, but offers 50%, (out of the goodness of his heart of course, LOL!) to the person the vendors say bought the tickets. This is rejected, as the true owner wants his winnings in full. Knowing the Thai judicial system is a complete joke that can be used to manipulate and intimidate people, he tries to frighten them away with spurious allegations. I do hope, that if and when it is proven the tickets were not in fact his, that this ex cop gets absolutely nailed up the clacker and spends his retirement years behind bars, getting battered by the inmates he helped put there. That would truly be Som nam na!

This a good example of why the locals rush down to their local cop shop if they get a winning number and take pictures etc. whilst there as someone always tries to scam the lottery winner. Sad really.

3 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

That I suspect is because there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they have done anything wrong. I see this as a guy who says the tickets are his, but offers 50%, (out of the goodness of his heart of course, LOL!) to the person the vendors say bought the tickets. This is rejected, as the true owner wants his winnings in full. Knowing the Thai judicial system is a complete joke that can be used to manipulate and intimidate people, he tries to frighten them away with spurious allegations. I do hope, that if and when it is proven the tickets were not in fact his, that this ex cop gets absolutely nailed up the clacker and spends his retirement years behind bars, getting battered by the inmates he helped put there. That would truly be Som nam na!

Do explain the obvious to me.. how did the cop got the ticket.. I never seen an explanation about that. I think there was a mixup at the vendor and the cop did do nothing. Other options are lost tickets maybe but I see no swindle here or anything. 

25 minutes ago, Oziex1 said:

I was hanging for the Lie detector result, what happened to that?

It couldn't handle the bu!!$#it and crashed!

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Do explain the obvious to me.. how did the cop got the ticket.. I never seen an explanation about that. I think there was a mixup at the vendor and the cop did do nothing. Other options are lost tickets maybe but I see no swindle here or anything. 

Cop can't remember where he bought the tickets. Really? Vendors don't recall selling any to him. That I believe. Probably the only person who has the answer to your question of how did he get them is him and right now he doesn't seem to be telling the world that answer. If it was legit, why did he offer half the winnings to make the teacher shut up? Why is he now trying to get the vendors, who don't back up his story arrested? Too many of his actions and chunks of his story just don't ring true. Maybe I am wrong, but maybe I am not.

4 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Cop can't remember where he bought the tickets. Really? Vendors don't recall selling any to him. That I believe. Probably the only person who has the answer to your question of how did he get them is him and right now he doesn't seem to be telling the world that answer. If it was legit, why did he offer half the winnings to make the teacher shut up? Why is he now trying to get the vendors, who don't back up his story arrested? Too many of his actions and chunks of his story just don't ring true. Maybe I am wrong, but maybe I am not.

I think your wrong, because there is no evidence brought by the teacher how he lost the ticket. The teacher can't tell anyone how he lost the ticket he only found out after he thought he won. The vendors if they made the mixup have everything to win to deny they mixed it up. So they would not say they sold the ticket to someone else.

 

Now I do agree that its strange that the cop offered half, but without proof how the teacher lost his ticket i find the teacher the one that needs to prove things not the cop. Possession is 9/10 th of the law.

14 minutes ago, robblok said:

Do explain the obvious to me.. how did the cop got the ticket.. I never seen an explanation about that. I think there was a mixup at the vendor and the cop did do nothing. Other options are lost tickets maybe but I see no swindle here or anything. 

Exactly, in any case who would *conspire* to steal a lottery ticket before the draw?

 

There are no facts here

21 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

That I suspect is because there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they have done anything wrong. I see this as a guy who says the tickets are his, but offers 50%, (out of the goodness of his heart of course, LOL!) to the person the vendors say bought the tickets. This is rejected, as the true owner wants his winnings in full. Knowing the Thai judicial system is a complete joke that can be used to manipulate and intimidate people, he tries to frighten them away with spurious allegations. I do hope, that if and when it is proven the tickets were not in fact his, that this ex cop gets absolutely nailed up the clacker and spends his retirement years behind bars, getting battered by the inmates he helped put there. That would truly be Som nam na!

It would not surprise me if both vendors and the teacher end up in prison. 

1 hour ago, Oziex1 said:

I was hanging for the Lie detector result, what happened to that?

Multi skilled lie detector operator same person as Koh Tao DNA operator.

Is it too late for me to put my hand up ?

I always remember where I buy my tickets. I won't be going to the police when I win.

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The lawyer of a retired police officer who claimed to be the real owner of five First Prize lottery tickets lodged a complaint with Kanchanaburi’s Muang district police, demanding legal actions to be taken against two lottery vendors and a schoolteacher who challenged the lottery ownership of the retired officer.

 

Mr Sitthra Biabungkerd demanded police to take legal action the two lottery vendors, Mrs Rattanaporn Supathip and Ms Patcharida Promta, accusing them of overcharing lottery tickets.

what is the real issue here ? is it ticket ownership or is it a childish acting-out by the supposed winner on a petty charge?

This is turning out to be a really crazy story .....  You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried ..

 

I say ....   he who has the winning ticket in his possession is indeed the current owner and therefore gets the money.

Anything else is non-abmissable as evidence.

13 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Cop can't remember where he bought the tickets. Really? Vendors don't recall selling any to him. That I believe. Probably the only person who has the answer to your question of how did he get them is him and right now he doesn't seem to be telling the world that answer. If it was legit, why did he offer half the winnings to make the teacher shut up? Why is he now trying to get the vendors, who don't back up his story arrested? Too many of his actions and chunks of his story just don't ring true. Maybe I am wrong, but maybe I am not.

I've no idea who is right or wrong is this story but I have doubts that lottery vendors can recall each and every customer that they sell tickets to.

15 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

I was hanging for the Lie detector result, what happened to that?

The machine was last seen, heading for the Cambodian border, in a car driven by a police-officer ? 

 

 

22 hours ago, darksidedog said:

That I suspect is because there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they have done anything wrong. I see this as a guy who says the tickets are his, but offers 50%, (out of the goodness of his heart of course, LOL!) to the person the vendors say bought the tickets. This is rejected, as the true owner wants his winnings in full. Knowing the Thai judicial system is a complete joke that can be used to manipulate and intimidate people, he tries to frighten them away with spurious allegations. I do hope, that if and when it is proven the tickets were not in fact his, that this ex cop gets absolutely nailed up the clacker and spends his retirement years behind bars, getting battered by the inmates he helped put there. That would truly be Som nam na!

This cop raises more questions as to his guilt after almost winning 30 million Bah  because it;s involved in legal proceedings ! Instead of thanking the ticket sellers he now wants to charge them> LMAO at Thailand cops and the law

On 12/11/2017 at 7:04 PM, snoop1130 said:

The lawyer said that he would like to know whether the two vendors got the lottery tickets in question at overcharged prices or it was them who overcharged the tickets.

Which has got exactly what to do with the issue of who actually purchased the tickets?

 

wow hey.... He won 30 million baht, but was overcharged for the tickets (yet must have handed over the money anyway???) and now wants to press charges against the people who sold them to him (if he speaks true)

 

my opinion.... the lawyer for the cop is making a play to intimidate the ticket vendors

 

cops and robbers, always entertaining.

On 11.12.2017 at 7:53 PM, robblok said:

I think your wrong, because there is no evidence brought by the teacher how he lost the ticket. The teacher can't tell anyone how he lost the ticket he only found out after he thought he won. The vendors if they made the mixup have everything to win to deny they mixed it up. So they would not say they sold the ticket to someone else.

 

Now I do agree that its strange that the cop offered half, but without proof how the teacher lost his ticket i find the teacher the one that needs to prove things not the cop. Possession is 9/10 th of the law.

How him can proof that him lost something??? Do you want that him made a video of it or what????
What a stupid thinking!!!

If you lost something you not feel it!!! Otherwise you not lost it!!!

 

But the ticket no. was ordered. So it must can followed to the district lottery seller. 

 

1 minute ago, snowgard said:

How him can proof that him lost something??? Do you want that him made a video of it or what????
What a stupid thinking!!!

If you lost something you not feel it!!! Otherwise you not lost it!!!

 

But the ticket no. was ordered. So it must can followed to the district lottery seller. 

 

There is no proof, and a mixup could have been made at the sellers. He can't explain how he lost it so its reasonable to expect he never had it. There are no signs of burglary or anything else, the cop is not a friend that has been in his house. He can't even prove he had the ticket before. (again mixup at vendors is most logical). Unless he can explain how and why he lost the ticket he has absolutely no rights. If you all of a sudden accuse someone of having stolen something from you you better have evidence of said theft.. 

1 minute ago, snowgard said:

How him can proof that him lost something??? Do you want that him made a video of it or what????
What a stupid thinking!!!

If you lost something you not feel it!!! Otherwise you not lost it!!!

 

But the ticket no. was ordered. So it must can followed to the district lottery seller. 

 

There is no proof, and a mixup could have been made at the sellers. He can't explain how he lost it so its reasonable to expect he never had it. There are no signs of burglary or anything else, the cop is not a friend that has been in his house. He can't even prove he had the ticket before. (again mixup at vendors is most logical). Unless he can explain how and why he lost the ticket he has absolutely no rights. If you all of a sudden accuse someone of having stolen something from you you better have evidence of said theft.. 

GLO should ask winners to write their names and IDs on the back of the winning tickets....

4 minutes ago, chuang said:

GLO should ask winners to write their names and IDs on the back of the winning tickets....

 

The guy never had the winning ticket in his hand.. only after he found out that it was a winning ticket did he look for it. That is why i think mixup at vendors or something like that. Your solution would not have helped. 

11 minutes ago, robblok said:

There is no proof, and a mixup could have been made at the sellers. He can't explain how he lost it so its reasonable to expect he never had it. There are no signs of burglary or anything else, the cop is not a friend that has been in his house. He can't even prove he had the ticket before. (again mixup at vendors is most logical). Unless he can explain how and why he lost the ticket he has absolutely no rights. If you all of a sudden accuse someone of having stolen something from you you better have evidence of said theft.. 

Right, him can't say the policeman stole the tickets. So it can only be that him lost it and the policeman found it. Or that the vendor found it and sold it again but than the policeman must remember the vendor.

It's all a little bit confusing.

5 minutes ago, snowgard said:

Right, him can't say the policeman stole the tickets. So it can only be that him lost it and the policeman found it. Or that the vendor found it and sold it again but than the policeman must remember the vendor.

It's all a little bit confusing.

He can indeed say he lost the tickets.. but don't you feel its strange he just lost the winning ticket and not the others ? As for the vendor reselling it, the the policeman is the rightful owner because if he bought it at the vendor its not his job to know the vendor made a mistake. Sorry I keep going for the cop its the most logical thing.