Ron19 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 9 hours ago, AboutThaim said: “How about the next time I wear an alarm clock around my neck.” Reminds me of an episode of Cactus Island when Keating was PM. He collected clocks. His wife, Anita the Clog, in answer to a question about how he didn't seem to be able to stop buying more clocks replied. “Yes, he has always been a clock sucker.” Who would have thought these two PMs would have something in common? What a great series with Pall Bearer, Joe Beoften Peedupon, Ivor Longy and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Media1 said: They are lazy and uneducated about legitimate leadership. They will not stand up all together and put a end to these characters. Let's face reality. The oldies are cashing in. Bit more difficult to do, when they have guns, & have used them before. I know alot of very dissatisfied Thai people who are neither lazy or uneducated, but do not see a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 9 hours ago, InMyShadow said: Other way around. Corruption works like a charm.. It's democracy that falls down Maybe your a tourist so a good tip is due diligence on bangkok burning.. Yellow vs red etc Democracy is a good 20 years away for thais They are just to dumb to understand it at this stage Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Just Weird said: No he wasn't, read the OP again, he says definitely, absolutely and unequivocally that he was joking. He didn’t say that at all. He was bragging. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I think he's annoyed by his deputy's stupidity. Its a joke aimed at him and at the same time a slightly paranoid dig at the media.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Will E Vormer said: He's come up through the ranks like anyone else, whats the problem? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Nothing, what's yours? $18,200,000 US is pretty good coming up through the ranks. In fact it is 423,256 x his yearly salary when he retired. In his mandatory 2014 asset disclosure to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, the prime minister listed 128.6 million baht (US$3.9 million) in assets and 654,745 baht (US$20,000) in liabilities. His assets included a Mercedes Benz S600L, a BMW 740Li series sedan, three additional vehicles, two Philipe Patek watches, three Rolex watches, US$200,000 in jewellery, and several pistols. He also reported the transfer of 466.5 million baht (US$14.3 million) to other family members. As army chief, prior to his retirement at the end of September, the general received a 1.4 million baht (US$43,000) annual salary. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayut_Chan-o-cha 18.2 million dollars US is pretty good coming up through the ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Unlike his deputy, who borrowed the watch, he declared it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Sydebolle said: Unlike his deputy, who borrowed the watch, he declared it! If the watch is borrowed, then it does not need to be declared. Doesn t it seem especially fortunate to you for a man to amass 423,256 x his highest annual salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Nothing, what's yours? $18,200,000 US is pretty good coming up through the ranks. In fact it is 423,256 x his yearly salary when he retired. In his mandatory 2014 asset disclosure to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, the prime minister listed 128.6 million baht (US$3.9 million) in assets and 654,745 baht (US$20,000) in liabilities. His assets included a Mercedes Benz S600L, a BMW 740Li series sedan, three additional vehicles, two Philipe Patek watches, three Rolex watches, US$200,000 in jewellery, and several pistols. He also reported the transfer of 466.5 million baht (US$14.3 million) to other family members. As army chief, prior to his retirement at the end of September, the general received a 1.4 million baht (US$43,000) annual salary. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayut_Chan-o-cha 18.2 million dollars US is pretty good coming up through the ranks.Sure, so why make stuff up? The vast majority of his worth came from an inherited land sale, which you know about but didnt want to add to your breakdown. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrblue Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 thais don’t need any watch. even wearing the most expensive rolex, panerai, patek, or the most precise swiss, zenith, bulova ones, they will never be on time at any appointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Will E Vormer said: Sure, so why make stuff up? The vast majority of his worth came from an inherited land sale, which you know about but didnt want to add to your breakdown. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk as you know what I know so I don't need to tell you my reply to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 as you know what I know so I don't need to tell you my reply to youGood! LmaoSent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Will E Vormer said: Sure, so why make stuff up? The vast majority of his worth came from an inherited land sale, which you know about but didnt want to add to your breakdown. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk According to documents from Gen. Prayuth’s asset declaration Col Prapat Chan-o-cha, Gen Prayut’s father, sold nine plots totalling 50 rai in Bangkok’s Bang Bon district to 69 Property Co Ltd on May 9, 2013, seven days after the company was registered, according to Isara News Agency, which quoted official documents. The major shareholder of the company when the deal took place had a British Virgin Islands address, Isara Newssaid, citing the Business Development Department’s data. After a capital increase, the major shareholder now is the company linked to Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi, a liquor and property billionaire. http://www.chiangraitimes.com/prayuth-on-defensive-over-familys-600-million-baht-property-sale.html But then, you knew that I know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 8 hours ago, greatwhitenorth said: According to documents from Gen. Prayuth’s asset declaration Col Prapat Chan-o-cha, Gen Prayut’s father, sold nine plots totalling 50 rai in Bangkok’s Bang Bon district to 69 Property Co Ltd on May 9, 2013, seven days after the company was registered, according to Isara News Agency, which quoted official documents. The major shareholder of the company when the deal took place had a British Virgin Islands address, Isara Newssaid, citing the Business Development Department’s data. After a capital increase, the major shareholder now is the company linked to Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi, a liquor and property billionaire. http://www.chiangraitimes.com/prayuth-on-defensive-over-familys-600-million-baht-property-sale.html But then, you knew that I know that Again, you've either deliberately missed out an important detail or not done your homework. Neither did that journalist. His asset declaration (from the sale) in 2013 included a deposit of 540 million baht. Look it up. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Will E Vormer said: Again, you've either deliberately missed out an important detail or not done your homework. Neither did that journalist. His asset declaration (from the sale) in 2013 included a deposit of 540 million baht. Look it up. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk most of us give a reference when we post something as a fact. it separates the bull excrement from the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 most of us give a reference when we post something as a fact. it separates the bull excrement from the truth???? look in the mirror Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Will E Vormer said: ???? look in the mirror Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk I knew you couldn t otherwise you wouldn t need to stoop to insults Edited December 22, 2017 by greatwhitenorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I knew you couldn t otherwise you wouldn t need to stoop to insultsTouchy. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 6 hours ago, rkidlad said: He didn’t say that at all. He was bragging. Fact. Clearly you cannot read the OP where he specifically said that he was joking. That is the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 11 hours ago, greatwhitenorth said: inexpensive watch? it was 250,000 baht or over 800 working days at 300baht minimum wage. He has a number of others, all more expensive. some can't tell the difference between joking and sarcasm, while others are sheep and follow whatever they are told. "Comparitively inexpensive" is what I said which is accurate in the context of this issue. Minimum wage is irrelevant to this and it does not matter if he owns other watches, it is the Seiko that he was referencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Clearly you cannot read the OP where he specifically said that he was joking. That is the fact. I saw with my own eyes. He was bragging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, rkidlad said: I saw with my own eyes. He was bragging. Really? From the OP, which is what is being discussed... "Wearing this Seiko, do I look good,” he said jokingly, adding “any wristwatch is all the same, I knew (you) want me to show off (this Seiko) so that it will become an issue". Maybe you shouldn't rely too much on your eyesight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Really? From the OP, which is what is being discussed... "Wearing this Seiko, do I look good,” he said jokingly, adding “any wristwatch is all the same, I knew (you) want me to show off (this Seiko) so that it will become an issue". Maybe you shouldn't rely too much on your eyesight. Bragging all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 "Comparitively inexpensive" is what I said which is accurate in the context of this issue. Minimum wage is irrelevant to this and it does not matter if he owns other watches, it is the Seiko that he was referencing.Exactly. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 What's wrong with successSent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Will E Vormer said: What's wrong with success Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk I don't imagine you will every have to face that issue. I am positive not by Prayut standards Edited December 22, 2017 by greatwhitenorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 On 21/12/2017 at 9:41 AM, DavisH said: Surely all of these guys must have originally come from rich families....how else can they buy a General's position? Name one General that comes from a poor family. I thought the going rate was 50M. baht. Of course, they must recoup their losses somehow...becoming a politician and controlling the cookie jar is just icing on the cake. A friend of mine was made general earlier this year. He is by no means rich. In fact he borrowed 2000 baht off me so he could give his two teenage boys a birthday party. I'm not saying positions aren't bought - the gossip supporting this is readily available - just saying in my friends case I don't think so. He is a career soldier some 52 years old, so I guess 30 or so years of service. Perhaps he is the only non corrupt person in the whole of Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 On 21/12/2017 at 1:01 PM, Essaybloke said: For a national 'leader' to come out with ...I knew (you) want me to show off (this Seiko) so that it will become an issue. How about the next time I wear an alarm clock around my neck?”... is simply careless, thoughtless, unprofessional, unacceptable and sends all the wrong signals. If you find it unacceptable - what actions do you propose to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 On 21/12/2017 at 6:45 PM, zzidenn said: I always find it quite frightening when elderly men become snappy and act like vindictive b*atches. Wise and smart are the qualities to look for in political leaders, so is modesty. You won't find much of that on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 22 hours ago, Media1 said: I swap my old Rolex for a big bike. I never found the need for it. I wear a Movado and a military watch mostly USA Luminox. Don't believe you for a moment. More probably a Disney watch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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