Anyone know where I can purchase cans of Propane?

[Dazinoz]

8 hours ago, Bang Bang said:

I am in IT, as far from this topic academically as can be, but my distant memories of high school science and the frightening old codger who taught it tells me this is backward.

 

Gas is converted to liquid by cooling and compression.

Exactly. 

[Dazinoz]

8 hours ago, mikecha said:

only 23 years 

Yep. And another 10 years in the control room of a power station and a number of years as an electrician. 

[cyborgx]

On 05/01/2018 at 12:14 AM, mikecha said:

 big c now selling cans and burners saw yesterday promotion 

As far as I know BigC doean’t sell Propane only Butane. Are you saying they now sell Propane?

[cyborgx]

On 30/12/2017 at 2:52 AM, Foexie said:

@ cyborgx,

 

did you try to search it on google?

 

I searched for โพรเพนถัง (propanetank) and the first page i found was this:

 

http://www.uniquegas.co.th/product.php

 

Don't know where you live but you can search for distributors on that page too. Hope it helps you.

 

Regards,

Thanks, I’ll take a look

[cyborgx]

On 30/12/2017 at 1:55 AM, Thongkorn said:

Propain is 120 pound per square inch pressure, Butane is 10. pressure may be some thing to do with it, both burn similar  heat temp.

Really... In the disposable cans?! Are u sure?

[cyborgx]

On 29/12/2017 at 11:04 PM, mikecha said:

home pro have torch and gas for soldering 

Again, is it Propane?

[cyborgx]

On 29/12/2017 at 4:31 PM, Crossy said:

Have a word with the manufacturer of your torch, they may be able to help with a hose/adaptor.

 

OR

 

Maybe, if you have an empty canister that fits the torch a local machine shop could knock up an adaptor so you could fill the canister from a cooking gas bottle (you'll need to invert the cooking gas bottle to get liquid out of it).

 

OR

 

Ditch the whole idea, I've seen propane/air (and even oxy-propane) torches in various outlets here. Could actually be the easiest/cheapest option.

 

I have one of the cheapo butane torches that fit the baby cans of butane, works great for soldering and starting the barbie.

 

Thanks for the ideas.

 

Manufacturer not much help, but i’ve ordered some adapters from Amazon and Ebay and think they’ll at least get the torch to fit the Butane can, but I’m concerned about what was said above about the pressure. 

Is he right? Are the disposable cans so different in pressure?

what about LPG pressure?

 

I’ve ordered a propane can from the US. Expensive shipping, and customs will probably be a pain, but hopefully they’ll let the single can through.

I’ve also purchased an adapter that can be used to refill the can, so I can wother fill it with Propane (assuming I find someone who supplies pure Propane, or refill with LPG (assuming pressure is not an issue)

 

I need to use this torch because I have an attachment built for it which I want to use...

 

I think I already said, but I too already have a Butane torch

[VocalNeal]

Go to your local Air Conditioning supply shop. They will show/sell you and oxy/lpg torch with a small gas bottle.  If the connections are similar to yours then you are in business. 

 

Sorry to be blunt but why bring sh1t from the US and expect to find replacement canisters in Asia.  Just use what the locals use? 

 

For small jobs a blow torch type cigar lighter will do. 

Edited January 11, 2018 by VocalNeal

[Dazinoz]

32 minutes ago, cyborgx said:

Is he right? Are the disposable cans so different in pressure?

what about LPG pressure?

Propane, butane, propane/butane mix are all classed as LPG. And as I previously posted:

 

At 70f (21.1C) the vapour pressure of propane is 110psi while, at the same temp, butane is only 17 psi, hence the thicker walled propane cylinders. A mixture of the gasses results in lower than propane and higher than butane pressures. 

[canuckamuck]

Here is my rig. I guess we would call it a tiger torch in Canada. But it would be smallish there. I am sure you could find an attachment with a finer torch head. The propane lasts forever, 100 baht for new bottle exchange. And my firebug family use it all the time, they love it.

 

Edited January 11, 2018 by canuckamuck

[cyborgx]

On ‎11‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 11:07 AM, VocalNeal said:

Go to your local Air Conditioning supply shop. They will show/sell you and oxy/lpg torch with a small gas bottle.  If the connections are similar to yours then you are in business. 

 

Sorry to be blunt but why bring sh1t from the US and expect to find replacement canisters in Asia.  Just use what the locals use? 

 

For small jobs a blow torch type cigar lighter will do. 

As I think I mentioned before, I have an attachment that is made for the TS8000, THAT is why I need a Propane can/bottle.

 

I didn't BRING it, I specifically imported it for a specific use along with the attachment mentioned.

[cyborgx]

On ‎11‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 11:59 AM, canuckamuck said:

Here is my rig. I guess we would call it a tiger torch in Canada. But it would be smallish there. I am sure you could find an attachment with a finer torch head. The propane lasts forever, 100 baht for new bottle exchange. And my firebug family use it all the time, they love it.

 

This is pure Propane?

Where did u get it? How much?

Thx for your input

[cyborgx]

On ‎11‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 11:35 AM, Dazinoz said:

Propane, butane, propane/butane mix are all classed as LPG. And as I previously posted:

 

At 70f (21.1C) the vapour pressure of propane is 110psi while, at the same temp, butane is only 17 psi, hence the thicker walled propane cylinders. A mixture of the gasses results in lower than propane and higher than butane pressures. 

Thx for the confirmation Daz.

[cyborgx]

I have a few options to be researched, and some items in transit that should provide me with a solution one way or another.

 

I'll try to remember to post an update with the best solution I find (unless of course something goes drastically wrong and I end up splatted across the walls LOL)

[canuckamuck]

2 hours ago, cyborgx said:

This is pure Propane?

Where did u get it? How much?

Thx for your input

It is cooking gas, don't ask me what the % of propane is in it but it is the same gas you get all over Thailand to run  your gas cooker. It is just a smaller than usual bottle. However this size of bottle is not that hard to find at the shops that sell propane. The torch itself I bought at a big propane shop in Chiang Mai at the corner of the Super Highway and the Nariwat bridge road. But I suspect that any of the propane specialty shops might have one. It requires a thread reducer to hook up to the bottle. Also bought at the same shop.

[Crossy]

3 hours ago, cyborgx said:

unless of course something goes drastically wrong and I end up splatted across the walls LOL

It's OK, we will read about it in the Thailand News forum.

 

Take care, as a sparks gas is something that scares me. Electricity tends to stay in its wires even if there's nick in the rubber, gas is not so cooperative.

 

[Crossy]

1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:

It is cooking gas, don't ask me what the % of propane is in it but it is the same gas you get all over Thailand to run  your gas cooker.

From an earlier post "according to PTT Thai cooking gas (LPG) is 70/30 propane/butane".

[cyborgx]

15 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

It is cooking gas, don't ask me what the % of propane is in it but it is the same gas you get all over Thailand to run  your gas cooker. It is just a smaller than usual bottle. However this size of bottle is not that hard to find at the shops that sell propane. The torch itself I bought at a big propane shop in Chiang Mai at the corner of the Super Highway and the Nariwat bridge road. But I suspect that any of the propane specialty shops might have one. It requires a thread reducer to hook up to the bottle. Also bought at the same shop.

If you followed the thread, what you appear to be talking about is called LPG according to the experts here.

[cyborgx]

Now for the good news.

 

All my plans seem to have worked out perfectly.

 

 

1) With 2 cheap adapters, I have the torch attached to the cheapo disposable Butane cans, and it works fine. No problems with pressure.

2) I also managed to import a Disposable Can of Propane from the US. So that works too.

3) With another cheap adapter, I can refill the Propane can, and keep using it. Preferably with Propane, but I'm thinking LPG would work just as well.

 

Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.

 

Last question, Where is a good place in central BKK to refill with Propane?  Near Lotus/BigC on Rama 4 would be great, but anywhere in central BKK would be fine.