passiflora Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Well done miss, but I wonder, there isn't defibrillator in the ambulance? 1
edwardflory Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 It is very sad to see some of the postings, as well as the banner headline. A 1st responder should / does everything possible to preserve human life. I pray to my God that this lady is around to try and save my life when / if needed. Her actions are of the highest caliber, and she pushed the meaning of 1st responder to the limit. This young lady IS a hero in my book. 1
Rimmer Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Multiple off topic troll posts have been removed "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf
Jonmarleesco Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Only in Thailand could appropriateness come into such a situation.
harrycallahan Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Poor girl now has to contend with men feigning heart attacks everywhere she goes.
Media1 Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 4 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Well done to the young lady, maybe other can learn from her heroism, you would think the ambulance crew would have conducted this as soon as they got the deceased outside, as opposed to just throwing him on the stretcher if that was the case, as we don't have any footage prior to the young lady straddling him, will all due respect to the ambulance crew. RIP Ambulance crews here are hit and miss. Not all are properly trained unfortunately
Destiny1990 Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 I like her approach much more then the bodybag without even trying anything.
Harveyg Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 3 hours ago, gjoo888 said: How could anyone take away from that scenario, anything other than a good person trying to save a dying man's life? Kudos to Nong Jaen! Amen to that. Thank God for the beautiful hearts that live among us. It inspires me to do more and to quiet any cynicism that occasionally surfaces.
Shiver Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Magnificent effort. Shame it turned out to be in vane. I suspect if he'd made it through they would have been partners in life for life, or at least best friends forever. It's good to know that someone that is a complete stranger is prepared to jump in to help the best way they know how. Kind of a happy-sad story.
snairc Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Though she tried her best to save the guy I am sorry that he didn't make it. RIP
cardinalblue Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Never seen someone straddle to perform compressions.... proper body position is always to the side of the victim for leverage... and if the stretcher is truly moving then that means the transporters are not working together as a team on what the priorities are in rendering care... this case should be reviewed by emergency aid in the field state protocol... Not one poster questioned are they following proper protocol? and reprimanded if found in violation... Competency in medicine ; effort in sports....
Russell17au Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, passiflora said: Well done miss, but I wonder, there isn't defibrillator in the ambulance? In one word "No"
edwardflory Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 CPR is used to try to bring a person who is →dead← back to the world of the living, something rarely stated about CPR. As a former 1st Responder for BOTH Hazmat and Life Support and a former CPR Instructor, the lady did everything necessary and proper to effect live saving given the bad circumstances she was facing, a victim being moved. It ""looks"" to me like her hands are in the proper position, and she is using her upper body weight properly to get the necessary depth of compression. Normally the position is to the side, agreed. Again I say, I hope she is the 1st responder if I ever need help. 2
watcharacters Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 I applaud the lady for her efforts. Too bad they weren't successful. I wonder, however, if CPR is less effective without the mouth to mouth part and forcing air into the lungs?
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, watcharacters said: I applaud the lady for her efforts. Too bad they weren't successful. I wonder, however, if CPR is less effective without the mouth to mouth part and forcing air into the lungs? I too applaud her efforts... Latest wisdom suggests that CPR is more effective starting off with 30 rapid Chest compressions then delivering breath 2 breaths followed by a further 30 compression. This is because the blood is theoretically already pre-oxygenated before the victim collapsed. This is in contrast to the previous recommendations which start with breaths (1:5 or 2:15) followed by compression. It also has something to do with circulating the pre-existing oxygenated blood through the brain immediately is of imminent importance. Given the real nature of this circumstance - a moving stretcher, it is better that anything was done and the compressions are most important. Of course, it would be good to see First Responder skills matching those of our home countries and it wouldn't take too much to get the Thai First Responders to these standards, however, in the meantime, anyone with the knowledge, even a little, who does anything to render assistance is deserving of applause and respect. 2 1
lvr181 Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 8 hours ago, rooster59 said: While some questioned the appropriateness of what she did Imbeciles! At least she tried. 1
punchjudy Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 shame he didn't make it.........would've been a wonderful sight coming around and seeing her straddled over you
Jane Dough Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, iang said: The Girl deserves a medal! Yes, I am sure many men would give her one.
lucjoker Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 Once in the ambulance .....she stopped ? nobody took over ? the mashine was not connected yet and the oxigen -bottles were not connected ........and so ......you die...... She innitialy did good ,but nobody followed up her efforts ( because they are untrained ) Verry sad ......no happy ending here .
Shiver Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, watcharacters said: I applaud the lady for her efforts. Too bad they weren't successful. I wonder, however, if CPR is less effective without the mouth to mouth part and forcing air into the lungs? EDIT: Oops! I see this had already been answered. The latest CPR guidance say to concentrate on pumping the heart to move blood around since it is oxygenated, and mouth to mouth is less important than getting the blood to circulate. (don't be scared of cracking a rib. If they live they'll thank you for it). I would imagine that ideally it would be a 2 person job and they would alternate as it's a demanding task to keep doing all the way to the hospital. Also I've read that if you feel like you're going into a heart attack then to cough violently and forcefully at a similar rate to CPR (maybe 100 times a minute?) to stimulate the diaphragm until you can get assistance. In the situation of a fire though, that might not be appropriate.
tweedledee2 Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 This young lady and the Rescue Service involved should be commended for their actions, although futile. From my experience, the outcome of this type of scenario is not reversible in the field without ACLS protocols, but even then only slightly. Also, having been exposed to smoke from a fire impacts the patient's treatment success. In the video, it appears the Rescue team provided proper BCLS care to the patient. They had a cardiac monitor/defibrillator connected. Oxygen was being administered by AMBU bag for rescue breathing and CPR was being performed "correctly". The final step is rapid transport. It is apparent that some posters know very little about pre-hospital EMS protocol. Some have questioned the actions of this young lady and her fellow crew member in treating this patient. There are some that questioned her use of the proper technique in performing CPR or Why didn't they do this or that?. Most posters expertise consists of what they Googled after they viewed this article or what they saw depicted in TV or the movies. Lastly, let me not leave out the posters that can take this real-life experience and through sexual innuendo show how immature they actually are. These are real men not. 1
Stefanix Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 6 hours ago, 1337markus said: Pity no one helped her, she tried valiantly, great effort young lady. I wonder if the ambulance persons understand CPR; 2 breaths into the mouth after 15 chest pumps? Right. It seems she did not even speak with the first responders or checked the condition of the patient. For me it looked more like blind action-taking, maybe even acting in front of that camera. Or maybe she even killed that man. 2
tweedledee2 Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Stefanix said: Right. It seems she did not even speak with the first responders or checked the condition of the patient. For me it looked more like blind action-taking, maybe even acting in front of that camera. Or maybe she even killed that man. You need to read paragraph #2 of post #55.
malibukid Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 i saved a mans life performing the Heimrich maneuver in a restaurant in the States. did not think twice. got a thank you.
sanemax Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, malibukid said: i saved a mans life performing the Heimrich maneuver in a restaurant in the States. did not think twice. got a thank you. That's a rather random thing to post
capasso Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 3 hours ago, watcharacters said: I applaud the lady for her efforts. Too bad they weren't successful. I wonder, however, if CPR is less effective without the mouth to mouth part and forcing air into the lungs? exact, mouth to mouth is a complement of external cardiac massage
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