snoop1130 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Video: It's brake failure as truck smashes into five vehicles - 8 year old in serious condition A truck driver said that the brakes failed on his truck/trailer as his rig smashed into a Toyota Fortuner and several other vehicles on a downward stretch of Khao Chong Tako in Sa Kaeo province. The accident was caught on dash cam from a vehicle coming up the hill. Banjong Noysing, 48, said he is always seeing accidents but never thought it would happen to him. He had bought his Fortuner just two months ago. His son Thanakorn is in ICU with a fractured skull after his face was cut open from mouth to ear. His pregnant wife is recovering. Several other people in the other pick-ups damaged were also recovering. The dash camk footage showed several fellow motorists help to put the Fortuner back on its wheels. The matter is being investigated by Ta Praya police and insurance assessors. Daily News said the driver of the truck said it was brake failure - there was no air in the brakes. Source: https://www.dailynews.co.th/regional/632146 -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-3-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NCC1701A Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigBadGeordie Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 Now I actually do believe this crash, not an accident, was caused by brake failure. I travel this road on a regular basis, there are a multitude of signs "ENGAGE LOW GEAR NOW", but do they? Not often. As such they cook their brakes with this being the inevitable outcome. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) brake failure ... I am fed up with this it is either brain failure or caused by boiling the brakes by not using low gear, as BBG stated oh, wait - that's brain failure, too Edited March 13, 2018 by sweatalot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Darcula Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The dash camk footage showed several fellow motorists help to put the Fortuner back on its wheels. Just making sure the broken necks were completely broken. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LennyW Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 For sure that is actually brake failure this time, riding the brakes going downhill instead of using a lower gear. But the result is always the same......other people coming off worse from others negligence!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm glad the footage ended where it did... I could just imagine the car rolling off the road and plunging down a ravine !!! Hope the wee fella recovers... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtco Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Whatever the reason the truck was going at a breakneck speed in what looks like heavy traffic ... no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somchai Logic Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 13 hours ago, NCC1701A said: Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Yes, one of the best definitions of Insanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Those trucks are equipped with a dual-circuit brake system, which means, there could be no failure due to no air inside the pressure container. It only could be worn out brake-linings and the lack of proper maintenance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonder6281 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 How could he be travelling at that speed when all the other traffic is going at a snail's pace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, wonder6281 said: How could he be travelling at that speed when all the other traffic is going at a snail's pace? He was speeding along merrily and suddenly caught up to a traffic jam and had no time to react. As far as brake failure - easy enough to check after the fact. If the brakes fail, they do not repair themselves after the crash. It's time that the authorities put an end to this excuse by confirming if brakes have failed and adding extra charges for the driver if he is really just lying about it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Horrifying for the Fortuner family. Hope they all recover. As for the truck driver, he was speeding, and/or driving negligently. Should be imprisoned, and his truck company if indeed it was brake failure caused by no regular maintenance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Nothing will change. Profit and selfishness above everything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uwe_rayong Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, fxe1200 said: Those trucks are equipped with a dual-circuit brake system, which means, there could be no failure due to no air inside the pressure container. It only could be worn out brake-linings and the lack of proper maintenance. The problem is not "not enough air", it is overheating. Long valley routes, the driver is overusing the brakes. The discs starts to overheat and at that point the braking effect decreases, the driver reacts with more pressure on the and the brakes getting hotter. It is vicious circle. That is why even more developed countries in Europe or USA use runaway truck ramp on long valley roads. It is a driver error,if he had used a low gear with 10-15km/h the accident had not been happen. If you feel the braking effect decreases you must stop immediately and wait a couple of minutes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black arab Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Darcula said: Just making sure the broken necks were completely broken. Exactly,i wouldnt know if thai emergency services have the knowledge, skill or tools to extricate casualties safely probably not all three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4637435435 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Brake failure like seen in the movies just isnt a plausible reality. Cooking brakes as another poster mentioned is possible but not if not unless its overloaded and a high gear for down a hill for a long time. My guess is the brakes on the trailer werent functioning or it is what its more likely to be and thats brain failure. Why dont these trucks push themselves into the dam trees instead of putting other lives in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Brain failure not breakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windas Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong. But with air brakes on trucks, the air is used to release the brakes, not to apply the brakes. That's why trucks can't move until there is sufficient air pressure to release the brakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Some offensive posts have been removed. A post containing an off topic trolling video has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Brain failure and untrained truck driver does not know how to change down a gear and use the gears as a brake and use the engine inhibitor for steep downhill driving so over heats the brake linings and polishes them so that they have no grip on the brake drums. Edited March 14, 2018 by Russell17au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 7 hours ago, bsdthai said: Brake failure like seen in the movies just isnt a plausible reality. Cooking brakes as another poster mentioned is possible but not if not unless its overloaded and a high gear for down a hill for a long time. My guess is the brakes on the trailer werent functioning or it is what its more likely to be and thats brain failure. Why dont these trucks push themselves into the dam trees instead of putting other lives in danger. Even empty if you continually ride the brake you will overheat the brake linings and you will polish them so that they have no grip. The trailer brakes not working, that would only happen if the brakes have been wound off but you will polish the trailer brakes the same as the truck brakes if you continually ride the brakes instead of using a lower gear and the engine inhibitor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Edited March 14, 2018 by Redline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Russell17au said: Even empty if you continually ride the brake you will overheat the brake linings and you will polish them so that they have no grip. The trailer brakes not working, that would only happen if the brakes have been wound off but you will polish the trailer brakes the same as the truck brakes if you continually ride the brakes instead of using a lower gear and the engine inhibitor Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well, in the USA, all drivers with CDL (commercial drivers license) are supposed to check the brakes and air before moving the vehicle. My experience with Thais is they don't maintain or check anything, and tire of doing such routine things very quickly, and just hop and go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, gk10002000 said: Well, in the USA, all drivers with CDL (commercial drivers license) are supposed to check the brakes and air before moving the vehicle. My experience with Thais is they don't maintain or check anything, and tire of doing such routine things very quickly, and just hop and go Checking before moving is all well and good, but you cannot check while the vehicle is moving, brake fade does not happen until the brakes overheat which is what happens in a situation like this, continually riding the brakes on a long downhill stretch and this will happen, no matter how many checks you do beforehand! It's operator error/negligence/ignorance/stupidity or whatever to not select a low gear and let the engine do the work. Edited March 15, 2018 by LennyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gintis0604 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 On 2018-03-13 at 10:08 PM, sweatalot said: brake failure ... I am fed up with this it is either brain failure or caused by boiling the brakes by not using low gear, as BBG stated oh, wait - that's brain failure, too No air pressure in the system and you can't even move the truck. He doesn't even know how those brakes are working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 hours ago, LennyW said: Checking before moving is all well and good, but you cannot check while the vehicle is moving, brake fade does not happen until the brakes overheat which is what happens in a situation like this, continually riding the brakes on a long downhill stretch and this will happen, no matter how many checks you do beforehand! It's operator error/negligence/ignorance/stupidity or whatever to not select a low gear and let the engine do the work. I believe there is an air pressure monitor? Now if the brakes faded, the shoes or disks fell apart, etc. that is one thing, but the driver said there was no air. How does he know there was no air? The moment you see low air you are supposed to stop. Sounds more like he just kept going knowing he had a problem and he was just hoping he would be able to get to his destination for the day instead of pulling over and call for repairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, gintis0604 said: No air pressure in the system and you can't even move the truck. He doesn't even know how those brakes are working. Correct. Most proper air systems act like train car "dead man" switches. It takes air to keep the brakes not applied. Now what they have in Thailand, who the heck knows. I bet they cut or deactivated stuff long ago in order to move the damn vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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