jenny2017 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, tukkytuktuk said: Great screensaver! Yep. Edited March 30, 2018 by jenny2017 Adding Breakfast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Is anything done regarding the schools etc that give employment to these people.... ? Dodgy paperwork, cheap labour rules Thailand.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teacher Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Mango Bob said: Seems like some teaching jobs are going to open up soon for new comers. Yes hehehehehehe, Out all that lot only 5 actual Native English Teachers, all the others are been hired from schools trying to rip the other off and the school makes money from the Government saying they have English teachers employed. So yes get rid of them and make the proper Teachers get a more generous salary like they receive in close by Asian countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Teacher said: Yes hehehehehehe, Out all that lot only 5 actual Native English Teachers, all the others are been hired from schools trying to rip the other off and the school makes money from the Government saying they have English teachers employed. So yes get rid of them and make the proper Teachers get a more generous salary like they receive in close by Asian countries. Five Native English Teachers doesn't say much about the quality of these people regarding their progress as educators. A lot of positions are only filled to show the parents that they've got white faces. Why would a "real and educated" teacher work for 35,000 baht/month? But it would be great to know how much a school director receives for one employee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 17 hours ago, CanuckThai said: WhooHoo....the Canucks came out of it unscathed...must have been happy hour somewhere..... Ands a hockey game. Or rather I mean a fight where a hockey game spontaneously broke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 hours ago, ezzra said: Yeah, the Grace hotel, not you average bastion of culture and the gathering of the elite, more like the cesspool of iniquity.... well, they apparently found another Grace hotel; the one I know is on soi 3, not soi 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 11 hours ago, CanuckThai said: WhooHoo....the Canucks came out of it unscathed...must have been happy hour somewhere..... Apparently, so did the Australians, but then again, maybe the Canucks and Aussies aren't considered teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Chang_paarp said: Interesting venue and time for a press conference. Yes. I understand that they are booking the Thermae for the next one. 555!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalcolonization Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 So this guy count find a black guy but decided to put an african picture . He would be laid off soon. that's a fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 "He noted 54 were charged with unlawful entry into the Kingdom –...and one American." How does an American get into Thailand illegally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieqw Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 any charges against those employing them ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Missed the 100s down south... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 16 hours ago, Happy enough said: "Eight other foreigners were arrested on other criminal charges –four Vietnamese, two Myanmarians, one Indian, and one Briton" i assume these others were for not having a WP. Interesting they are targeting the schools now Yes they have decided to dumb down on education as the locals are getting far too smart for their own good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 16 hours ago, ezzra said: Yeah, the Grace hotel, not you average bastion of culture and the gathering of the elite, more like the cesspool of iniquity.... It's been an Arab place for 30 years at least. Only the gutter dregs of Thai girls end up there. It makes the Nana hotel look like a monastery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 A troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 21 hours ago, ratcatcher said: "...at the Grace Hotel on Soi Sukhumvit 23 " The Grace Hotel, located in the heart of the busy souk in Soi 3 Lower Sukumvit area. 21 hours ago, Prairieboy said: I have read that the Grace Hotel is the headquarters for the Thai Mafia - 2:00 AM is a strange time to hold a press conference - perhaps they meant 2:00 PM?? Thai reporters are hardly the bastion of accuracy. TIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 12 hours ago, cookieqw said: any charges against those employing them ???????? What and make fellow Thai lose face? Are you mad? Crucify the foreigner and tell the school to not get caught doing it again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 10:06 AM, Happy enough said: strange thing about that is there were no filipinos arrested. maybe they are all legal but i thought they used alot of cheap filipino english teachers in the schools There was a Filipino teaching English at my local school a while back. I couldn't understand a word of his. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: There was a Filipino teaching English at my local school a while back. I couldn't understand a word of his. The Philippines are (an English speaking) part of ASEAN. It may make it easier for them. Not sure about the rules are for teachers now from within ASEAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teacher Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 21 hours ago, jenny2017 said: Five Native English Teachers doesn't say much about the quality of these people regarding their progress as educators. A lot of positions are only filled to show the parents that they've got white faces. Why would a "real and educated" teacher work for 35,000 baht/month? But it would be great to know how much a school director receives for one employee. Well said and very correct and agencies get double this from the school, so should the true teachers be paid more ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Finally some good news. Thailand's educational system is already operating at a severe deficit. Good to get some of these bozos out of here. Although it's probably just like "spitin' in the wind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 22 hours ago, Blue Muton said: There was a Filipino teaching English at my local school a while back. I couldn't understand a word of his. I was stationed for a while in the Philippines. Also Had a Filipina girlfriend in the states for six years. I understand them perfectly the language that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 3/30/2018 at 4:33 PM, Scottie12 said: The big black guy doesn't seem to fall into any of the ethnic categories mentioned ! Brilliant!!! He could be from the UK or USA huh? The article described the criminals by nationality not ethnicity. I LOVE THAIVISA!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunduhpostman Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The education "system" is as much if not more to blame. Rather disingenuous for the Thai media and establishment to get their hackles up about this. Kind of an outrage, especially if you have done time as a teacher here, you know what the schools and admin get up to. In a word they want illegal teachers, cheaper and less hassle. This is about smearing teachers and developing an atmosphere in which there is even more vulnerability, its about criminalizing all teachers in the minds of the public so that they voluntarily help put pressure on teachers, reducing wages, reducing the scope of what teachers can bring to the table to empower and actually educate people. Make the teachers afraid to teach afraid to ask to be paid is probably what they want here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Shaunduhpostman said: The education "system" is as much if not more to blame. Rather disingenuous for the Thai media and establishment to get their hackles up about this. Kind of an outrage, especially if you have done time as a teacher here, you know what the schools and admin get up to. In a word they want illegal teachers, cheaper and less hassle. This is about smearing teachers and developing an atmosphere in which there is even more vulnerability, its about criminalizing all teachers in the minds of the public so that they voluntarily help put pressure on teachers, reducing wages, reducing the scope of what teachers can bring to the table to empower and actually educate people. Make the teachers afraid to teach afraid to ask to be paid is probably what they want here. They're illegal. Illegal aliens are ruining the rest of the world. Just "jump through the hoops" and do it legally. What is the problem with that. Europe is finished. the USA may be going the same way due to illegals flaunting the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 7 hours ago, joeyg said: They're illegal. Illegal aliens are ruining the rest of the world. Just "jump through the hoops" and do it legally. What is the problem with that. Europe is finished. the USA may be going the same way due to illegals flaunting the law. From what I understand, the small schools are unwilling to provide work permits because many of the teachers may not stay that long to make it worth the while of paying for the permits, meaning the teachers employed by schools like that are forced to work on a tourist visa, even if they plan to stay for worthwhile amount of time. Perhaps the answer would be to make the process of obtaining a work permit for teachers less expensive and less hassle. Unchecked immigration in Germany has certainly been a mistake but I think saying "Europe is finished" is a little hysterical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, stephen tracy said: From what I understand, the small schools are unwilling to provide work permits because many of the teachers may not stay that long to make it worth the while of paying for the permits, meaning the teachers employed by schools like that are forced to work on a tourist visa, even if they plan to stay for worthwhile amount of time. Perhaps the answer would be to make the process of obtaining a work permit for teachers less expensive and less hassle. Unchecked immigration in Germany has certainly been a mistake but I think saying "Europe is finished" is a little hysterical. That what my European relatives tell me. half the Brits here say the same about England. And no far from hysterical. I know the scenario you're talking about very well. Follow the law and problem solved. "forced to work on a tourist visa" has an interesting ring to it don't ya think. Pretty funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, joeyg said: That what my European relatives tell me. half the Brits here say the same about England. And no far from hysterical. I know the scenario you're talking about very well. Follow the law and problem solved. "forced to work on a tourist visa" has an interesting ring to it don't ya think. Pretty funny... I just think that given Thailand is in dire need of improving the English of future generations so they can compete with their ASEAN neighbours, and that there are plenty of teacher swilling to work in Thailand and would like to do so legally, it's a problem that can be easily solved. It would simply require streamlining the current process to make it fair on the schools and those they employ. I'm not sure what you mean by "has an interesting ring to it don't ya think." Edited April 1, 2018 by stephen tracy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 3/29/2018 at 8:09 PM, Expatthailover said: If you are illegal you are illegal whether it be a school teacher or a bog cleaner. Well done thailand Semantic trash from a self sanctimonious who needs to get a life. Your response puts a teacher in the same class with a drug dealer or pedophile. Hey! I know a cancer patient who was too sick to travel and was well into overstay. They should have thrown that scoundrel in jail and thrown away the key! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, joeyg said: That what my European relatives tell me. half the Brits here say the same about England. And no far from hysterical. I know the scenario you're talking about very well. Follow the law and problem solved. "forced to work on a tourist visa" has an interesting ring to it don't ya think. Pretty funny... Your point? Edited April 1, 2018 by techboy misunderstood the post i was responding to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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