50 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Yes, and Melania hand picked Jeff Sessions.

 

 

I don't think the word is 'picked' Peter 

1 hour ago, The manic said:

To compare Trump to Stalin and Putin is an outrage.

There are many outrages currently connected to Trump and being referred to as similar to Putin or Stalin is at the very bottom of a very tall pile.

Now, look at that.....!

Who'd have thunk?!

2 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

Can Hannity continue to keep pretending he's objective in his reporting? Probably, and Trump fans will continue to lap up all the anti-American lies he spouts, like kittens lapping up spilt milk.

 

Hannity should be booted from his job - if Murdoch had an iota of decency.

I agree with you with the exception of the word/idea of Hannity "reporting." lol He merely talks shit and makes things up..... just like clown man. What's that a/b peas in/of a pod????

"Let me set the record straight, here's the truth: Michael Cohen never represented me in any legal matter," Hannity said at the close of his show. "I never retained his services."

"My discussion with Michael Cohen never rose to any level that I need to tell anyone I was asking him questions,"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/16/sean-hannity-show-monday-cohen-revelations/522984002/

Hannity claimed his conversations with Cohen were "confidential." That doesn't trigger a client-attorney privilege conversation. Hannity in fact denies any professional attorney client relationship with Cohan. He calls his relationship with Cohen as "nontraditional."

Well, if you ask me, Michael Cohen is a saint. Not only does he foot the bill for Stormy Daniels, but he offers Sean Hannity his services for free.

 

I have a few friends who are lawyers and when I consultws them about something I wanted to keep confidential, they would ask me for a trifling sum, equivalent to about 1 dollar in order to legally establish an attorney-client relationship. I don't know what the state rules are in NY about such things, but since Hannity paid Cohen nothing, might it mean that Hannity isn't covered by attorney-client privilege? And maybe Cohen was invoking it to protect Hannity from whatever is to be found in the files?

3 hours ago, kamahele said:

Another deep state conspiracy theorist heard from.... 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/04/16/sean-hannity-outed-michael-cohens-client-deep-state/

11 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I don't know what the state rules are in NY about such things, but since Hannity paid Cohen nothing, might it mean that Hannity isn't covered by attorney-client privilege?

It's like watching paint dry.

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Well, if you ask me, Michael Cohen is a saint. Not only does he foot the bill for Stormy Daniels, but he offers Sean Hannity his services for free.

 

 

It's true.  If Cohen makes it out of this unscathed, there will be many "clients" becoming "interested" in the type of "legal service" he "provides".  So many, that we might see a national shortage of "quotation marks".

4 hours ago, The manic said:

To compare Trump to Stalin and Putin is an outrage.

Yes, I am beginning to think that they would be embarrassed to be compared to Trump! 

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

since Hannity paid Cohen nothing, might it mean that Hannity isn't covered by attorney-client privilege?

No¹. An attorney can provide legal services pro bono.

Note that Hannity hasn't claimed his contacts with Cohen were attorney-client privilege but rather attorney-client confidential. They're not the same legally. What's important for an attorney-client privilege (ACP) is that there is agreement to a contractual (either verbal or written) relationship between the "client" and the "attorney." Yet, Hannity said, "I never retained his services."

The lack of agreement means that a casual conversation between Hannity and Cohen, ie., about New York real estate laws, would not be covered by the ACP. I'd expect a responsible attorney might ask before engaging in such conversation, "Will we have an attorney-client relationship if I answer?" The attorney might otherwise respond to demonstrate his legal expertise in the topic - a commercial promotion. You see such ads frequently on television.

Even when the party like Hannity affirms, if the conversation is about collusion between the two to commit a crime, there is no ACP.

¹  I am not an attorney.

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Is that really the point?

 

Whichever scenario do you believe he got legal advice from the is very high profile lawyer free? 

 

 

I was answering a specific post.

3 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

It's like watching paint dry.

 

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

No¹. An attorney can provide legal services pro bono.

Note that Hannity hasn't claimed his contacts with Cohen were attorney-client privilege but rather attorney-client confidential. They're not the same legally. What's important for an attorney-client privilege (ACP) is that there is agreement to a contractual (either verbal or written) relationship between the "client" and the "attorney." Yet, Hannity said, "I never retained his services."

The lack of agreement means that a casual conversation between Hannity and Cohen, ie., about New York real estate laws, would not be covered by the ACP. I'd expect a responsible attorney might ask before engaging in such conversation, "Will we have an attorney-client relationship if I answer?" The attorney might otherwise respond to demonstrate his legal expertise in the topic - a commercial promotion. You see such ads frequently on television.

Even when the party like Hannity affirms, if the conversation is about collusion between the two to commit a crime, there is no ACP.

¹  I am not an attorney.

I've been watching too much TV
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/17/sean-hannitys-idea-of-attorney-client-privilege-is-right-out-of-breaking-bad-its-also-wrong/?utm_term=.abf16a69d7f2

Hannity is a piece of shit!

He was the Minister of Propaganda for the G.W. Bush administration in the lead up to the Iraq invasion.

I still remember him and that other bastard, McCain, laughing after they told the audience how foolish the people who didn't want to go to war were going to feel after they find WMD in Iraq.

Unbelievably, people still listen to this scumbag!

I hope he's banished to Bogeyland forever!!

 

I won't be surprised if it soon surfaces that Hannity got Cohen to arrange hush money to put a gag order on something/someone.  That's Cohen's specialty.   

 

I bet Kushner, Don Jr and Ivanka (and everyone else in Trump's vicinity) are destroying email histories and hard drives as fast as they can. 

5 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

It's true.  If Cohen makes it out of this unscathed, there will be many "clients" becoming "interested" in the type of "legal service" he "provides".  So many, that we might see a national shortage of "quotation marks".

Cohen is already deeply scathed. The question now is if he sells out "trump."

There was this nagging feeling in my had for days now that Michael Cohen reminds me of someone. Couldn't place my finger on it. Mrs. (who's pretty bored with US news by now) saw him on TV, and recognized "him" right away - Barry Zuckerkorn of Arrested Development fame. A load off my mind.

 

https://twitter.com/law_barry?lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlq9pFs-Fts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWDUFVYjc1s

 

 

12 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Facts matter. Politization of the Justice system matter. Context matters. 

 

Hypocrisy pisses people off, bud. 

But only hypocrisy from the 'other side '...correct ?

 

LOL

 

Maddow is objective?

 

Your hypocrisy is astounding.

 

Did I miss the news flash that says Maddow never disclosed that her secret lawyer, who is the target of a criminal investigation and whom she has been defending on air, is also Obama’s lawyer?

 

Perhaps you can link me to that story so we can substantiate your charge of hypocrisy.

3 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

But only hypocrisy from the 'other side '...correct ?

Yes, both "other sides".

14 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

LOL

 

Right. And Acosta is objective? Maddow is objective? 

 

Your hypocrisy is astounding. 

 

Nobody is objective.  That said, he should have disclosed his relationship with the person he was reporting on to maintain the illusion of objectivity.

A post with an inflammatory meme has been removed.  

8 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

When was this?

 

Fatass' sheeple will have a few "eye rolls" when they find out the history behind his new legal team. lol lol lol 

On 4/17/2018 at 10:55 AM, RobFord said:

555. 

 

 

 

Funny.  Hannity is about the slimiest of slimeballs out there.  Every time that guy opens his mouth, he's just asking to be punched in the face.   

Off topic trolling posts and the replies have been removed. 

On 4/17/2018 at 7:36 PM, Jingthing said:

Cohen is already deeply scathed. The question now is if he sells out "trump."

Confirming what I said from one of the "trump" shrinking bullpen of D list lawyers. IF it turns out Cohen ends up sinking "trump" there would be a rich irony. "trump"'s original key mentor when he was a young man was the incredibly notorious villian from the McCarthy era, lawyer Roy Cohn. Now Cohen who was obviously his super sleazy corrupt replacement for Cohn as Cohn is long dead. 

 

Quote

 

Cohen could turn if charged, adviser warned Trump

...

Trump made the call seeking advice from Jay Goldberg, who represented Trump in the 1990s and early 2000s. Goldberg said he cautioned the president not to trust Cohen. On a scale of 100 to 1, where 100 is fully protecting the president, Cohen “isn’t even a 1,” he said he told Trump.

 

 

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/business/Cohen-could-turn-if-charged--adviser-warned-Trump.HJTDJurnG.html

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by Jingthing

More on Cohen flipping. At 3:25 --

 

Edited April 20, 20188 yr by Jingthing

On 4/19/2018 at 5:03 PM, Jingthing said:

Confirming what I said from one of the "trump" shrinking bullpen of D list lawyers. IF it turns out Cohen ends up sinking "trump" there would be a rich irony. "trump"'s original key mentor when he was a young man was the incredibly notorious villian from the McCarthy era, lawyer Roy Cohn. Now Cohen who was obviously his super sleazy corrupt replacement for Cohn as Cohn is long dead. 

 

 

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/business/Cohen-could-turn-if-charged--adviser-warned-Trump.HJTDJurnG.html

Most "tough guys" don't scamper around telling others how "bad" they are; most wealthy people don't stand around telling people how rich they are; most people with high IQ's don't boast the fact they are smarter than most other people. 

 

My money is this "tough guy" ain't so tough - he'll flip. Just like lying man isn't as wealthy as he claims and certainly isn't SMART. 

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

More on Cohen flipping.

Who's to say that Cohen hasn't already flipped?

Remember that Papadopoulos was flipped after interviewed by the FBI but a couple months before the FBI announced charges against him. In the interim he continued to work at the White House - "wired" and collecting evidence?

Flash forward to Cohen who, while he doesn't work in the White House, has a lot of New York connections and is seen after the court hearing on the FBI evidence raid on Cohen is seen incongruously in an outside "cigar party" with a group of friends. One of the friends has a Trump/Deutsche Bank connection and one worked for Russian oligarch Lev Avenovich Levviev.  https://medium.com/@whileseated/michael-cohen-cigar-pictures-51807588b854

According to an article published in The Guardian on July 24, 2017, Jared Kushner sealed real estate deal worth $295m with Lev Avnerovich Leviev's firm cited in money-laundering case. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/24/jared-kushner-new-york-russia-money-laundering

Is this kind of meeting for Cohen really sensible in light of potential criminal charges? Wishful thinking perhaps but what if Cohen was "wired?" What better people to meet openly for photos and talk in whispers?