7 hours ago, webfact said:

Where Thailand still trails behind

Oh, where to begin. Let me see...

3 minutes ago, Gazman1 said:

 Think of the work involved in changing all computers and not only that the cost.
 

The upgrade three years ago was FREE for 12 months, and still is if you know how, and for the majority of users, seamless.

Bill Gates deserves all he has made, otherwise, how would we be talking all this crap on TV?   lol

The upgrade three years ago was FREE for 12 months, and still is if you know how, and for the majority of users, seamless.
Bill Gates deserves all he has made, otherwise, how would we be talking all this crap on TV?   lol

I am not sure where you have gotten your information from and which upgrade was free. You maybe confusing a corporation licence with a personal licence, I think you will find corporations is not free and the upgrade is not seamless. Don’t forget other systems run on corporation servers and they are not the same as what is run on a personal computer. And for that matter TV have just had a number of issues upgrading there system to fit in with new HTML protocols, obviously you are not well versed in running large systems but are a home user

2 minutes ago, Gazman1 said:

I am not sure where you have gotten your information from and which upgrade was free. You maybe confusing a corporation licence with a personal licence, I think you will find corporations is not free and the upgrade is not seamless. Don’t forget other systems run on corporation servers and they are not the same as what is run on a personal computer. And for that matter TV have just had a number of issues upgrading there system to fit in with new HTML protocols, obviously you are not well versed in running large systems but are a home user

Correct.

Correct.

Thankyou, I have worked on many upgrades. In one state in Australia for one Department it took over two years to upgrade fromWindows XP to Windows 7 which they are still using. There were so many sub systems that could or would have been adversely affected by the upgrade and each had to be tested beforehand. This ranged from Macro’s written in Spreadsheets etc by individual users to major systems and depended how the software was used in a network environment. If the Thai Govt is still using Windows XP I can understand why they still rely on so much paper records and not fully digitised. The task is huge and gives me a headache just to think about it let alone the cost involved.

2 minutes ago, Gazman1 said:

Thankyou, I have worked on many upgrades. In one state in Australia for one Department it took over two years to upgrade fromWindows XP to Windows 7 which they are still using. There were so many sub systems that could or would have been adversely affected by the upgrade and each had to be tested beforehand. This ranged from Macro’s written in Spreadsheets etc by individual users to major systems and depended how the software was used in a network environment. If the Thai Govt is still using Windows XP I can understand why they still rely on so much paper records and not fully digitised. The task is huge and gives me a headache just to think about it let alone the cost involved.

The same as most Thai banks.

The same as most Thai banks.

The unfortunate thing is they will be paying a high price to Microsoft for the support of Windows XP if they are still using and the support will be limited. Very risky, I am not aware of when they will stop supporting Windows 7 for Corporations but they will need to get everyone of Windows XP before they do, well I hope they will!! I am an Apple user I got fed up with dealing with Windows and the problems that seem to follow it!

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Where Thailand still trails behind

I would like to some semblance of an international news programme on regular main stream tv slots.  We nearly had ww3 last week but you wouldnt know it watching thai  tv news.  All i see is todays mundane police activities, traffic videos and trivia.  No wonder the Thai people are oblivious to world affairs.

Edited April 27, 20188 yr by Tilacme

The Chinese present a clear and present danger to the World- they are aggressive and intent on controlling technology around the World. In addition, they are investing in land and natural resources so as to be able to provided needed resources to their huge population and keep the Communist Party in power.   We are seeing what Amazon is doing in America and how brick and mortar sellers are going out of business but at least Amazon is an American Company.

 

Alibaba has huge resources behind it and can count on the Chinese Government to provide whatever it needs.  Alibaba is a foreign company and will never have Thailand's best interests as a priority Thailand does need a huge amount of investment in high tech and upgrades to its computer platform but not from China.  Thailand needs to turn to America, Canada, Australia or Europe for this. China will overwhelm Thailand and eventually infringe on its sovereignty.

I got a set of car Led lights off aliexpress as my last cool tech purchase.  Remote control switches for home also.  Anybody care to share their latest cool Ali purchases amongst the discussion? Great for a cheap bargain.  Great for China.Great for Ali billionaire. May the rich get richer and be happy forever.

17 minutes ago, stud858 said:

I got a set of car Led lights off aliexpress as my last cool tech purchase

I was under the impression that international laws state only white lights at the front, red lights on the back, and orange indicators. That's what manufacturers stick to.  Sometimes you look in your mirror and think it's a Christmas Tree behind you, or get a disco light show when the car in front of you brakes. Thailand needs to BAN both the sale and use of these distracting, illegal LEDs. How do these cars pass the MOT test?

23 minutes ago, stud858 said:

I got a set of car Led lights off aliexpress as my last cool tech purchase.  Remote control switches for home also.  Anybody care to share their latest cool Ali purchases amongst the discussion? Great for a cheap bargain.  Great for China.Great for Ali billionaire. May the rich get richer and be happy forever.

I bought a John Lennon copy Rickenbacker off Ail Baba. It should be buried with the great man himself, utter rubbish......the guitar not John

Edited April 27, 20188 yr by wgdanson

Obviously with the high level of honesty, efficiency and rapidity of the Thai Customs and the Thai Post, AliBaba and e-commerce have a bright future in Thailand

11 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Thai Post as a powerhouse in a digital economy? Having dealt with them frequently over the years, I wouldn't trust them with a birthday card. Making them a "powerhouse" in the digital economy?

 

 

I applaud the desire for Thailand to join the international digital economy, but there are two HUGE hurdles that are not being addressed.

 

Digital security and privacy. Anyone who has gone to an immigration office and received someone else's passport info on the back of their photocopy will know what I am talking about. Further, one simply has to look at the recent data leak by True; do you feel that the government has been honest with the leak? Do you feel that YOUR data is safe and secure in Thailand? These are VITAL issues that are not being dealt with.

 

Secondly, Thailand lacks an education system to enable its citizens to properly utilize the global digital infrastructure, and so will be forced to have others 'manage' Thailand's interests. In other words, Thailand will not control its future digitally because it doesn't have the manpower and won't for a long while. And if you farm out your digital future to others, they'll never give it back (I wouldn't).

 

As much as I love the Thai people, they are not technologically proficient enough on a large scale to manage their own digital future. And that means someone else will do it, with all the consequences that entails...

 

Thai kids; start learning Mandarin!

 

To be fair data isn't safe anywhere so long as you have a PLC,  anywhere anytime your data can be comprimised

26 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

I was under the impression that international laws state only white lights at the front, red lights on the back, and orange indicators. That's what manufacturers stick to.  Sometimes you look in your mirror and think it's a Christmas Tree behind you, or get a disco light show when the car in front of you brakes. Thailand needs to BAN both the sale and use of these distracting, illegal LEDs. How do these cars pass the MOT test?

 

And there are three roadside stalls at different locations near where I live with flashing LED lights in red and blue, distracting and making you think there's an accident ahead. But no-one cares, as usual. Everyone just does as they please, because they can.

Well I would like to mention one area that they don't trail behind

& that's the MA & PA stores (dealing in cash )

I've seen on the news /ect, that when a 7/11 or a market chain has a computer hick up that's it NO MORE SALES

Even happens in Farang countries 

 

 

41 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

I was under the impression that international laws state only white lights at the front, red lights on the back, and orange indicators. That's what manufacturers stick to.  Sometimes you look in your mirror and think it's a Christmas Tree behind you, or get a disco light show when the car in front of you brakes. Thailand needs to BAN both the sale and use of these distracting, illegal LEDs. How do these cars pass the MOT test?

Yeah I'm sticking to rules. The led globes I got are to replace the yellow shining ones.  They simply shine whiter and brighter. Get all the fancy bling stuff off the roads.

7 hours ago, wgdanson said:

And they really do need a proper post/zip code system

I wrote my uk postal code down plus house number.i asked the mrs what she thought it was.i google mapped it and said it's that door in the picture.amazing....when we order from shops she has to draw maps like we did in the 19th century.i think this country has a long road ahead.

18 hours ago, Lupatria said:

Colonialism 4.0 in full swing.

They are taking over the world, if you hadn't noticed.

 

They'll be turning the lights on and off in the UK once Hinckley point

is up and running!

 

(The Chinese that is, not the Thais!)

17 hours ago, Gazman1 said:

.....

I am an Apple user I got fed up with dealing with Windows and the problems that seem to follow it!

Ah ah thank you it's always good to start the day with a good laugh.

15 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

Ah ah thank you it's always good to start the day with a good laugh.

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21 hours ago, wgdanson said:

And they really do need a proper post/zip code system

And a proper house numbering system that would make sense even to dummies like me.  As an example our house number is 180/7 - next door is 74/7 ....???  Wandering around our village I see many examples of this illogical numbering system.

 

No wonder the delivery people don't (or can't) deliver to the proper address.

 

21 hours ago, Muhendis said:

A major drawback to the likes of Alibaba et. al. is the final mile which requires the enthusiasm of the local delivery person. This is sadly lacking. Talking to a Lazada (now part of the Alibaba empire) rep. the other day, I was told that they have problems with local delivery companies who would return goods to the depot rather than go to the trouble of delivering to any out of the way address. Another problem is that suppliers in Thailand are sometimes not not sufficiently familiar with the common ASEAN language to make their advertisements attractive to potential customers outside of Thailand.

 

21 minutes ago, Prairieboy said:

And a proper house numbering system that would make sense even to dummies like me.  As an example our house number is 180/7 - next door is 74/7 ....???  Wandering around our village I see many examples of this illogical numbering system.

 

No wonder the delivery people don't (or can't) deliver to the proper address.

 

It's because houses are numbered on a land plot system. And it is why, if you for example want furniture delivered, you have to draw them a map. In a few decades they might discover and use GPS, but for now they still use paper and pencil. Several years ago there was talk of introducing a more logical (ie normal western-style) system. But of course that's as far as it got. It is probably far too complex and difficult to change it.

But I believe the Japanese system is similarly confusing. Maybe for the same reason.

 
It's because houses are numbered on a land plot system. And it is why, if you for example want furniture delivered, you have to draw them a map. In a few decades they might discover and use GPS, but for now they still use paper and pencil. Several years ago there was talk of introducing a more logical (ie normal western-style) system. But of course that's as far as it got. It is probably far too complex and difficult to change it.

But I believe the Japanese system is similarly confusing. Maybe for the same reason.

Makes sense it would be a difficult task to start renumbering the house lots and then there is the street names which are not in order where they use numbers. Our street which is in the 60’s but is bordered each side by street in the 40’s.
My wife continually argues with the GPS so there is not much trust in them. She believes the GPS is taking a longer route but I don’t mind as long as I get there. Invariably when I follow her directions we get lost!!!

Buy from Alibaba?- no way.  I refuse to purchase anything made in China -including the I-phone. They may take over the World but not on my money. Let the buyer beware.

Buy from Alibaba?- no way.  I refuse to purchase anything made in China -including the I-phone. They may take over the World but not on my money. Let the buyer beware.

So what device are you using to type your response on and where were it or any components within made????

22 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said:

Indeed. The common mantra that Thailand has never been colonised is as fictitious now as it has ever been.

 

Thailand doesn't count the Chinese, and it's largely the Chinese who have driven Thailand to whatever prominence it now has, certainly they have dominated the economy.

 

And it was the Chinese who taught Thais to be corrupt.

 

Additional domination by the Chinese ought to be scaring the life out of Thais, but they're sleepwalking. If the Thais do not train their people for the technological age, the Chinese will be happy to take up the slack. And some people believe Thais haven't yet come to terms with the Industrial revolution, and that started 200 years ago, which is a real problem.

 

No matter how much Prayuth struts around boasting of what he's allegedly done for Thailand, the reality he's done bugger all that's useful.

I wish them well, but they are easily tricked. For an example, how could a nation of stunningly beautiful brown skinned people have been convinced BY IMMIGRANTS that they are inadequate?

 

Thais (the non-Chinese ones) have had their minds colonized by the Chinese for centuries. So much so, even, that Thais look down on Thai Indians (from whom half of Thai cultural tradition has come). 

 

The Chinese are extremely clever indeed. They don't invade with guns but with trade and culture. 

 

But, fair enough, the Chinese are industrious and have contributed immensely to the development of the country. 

Edited April 28, 20188 yr by AntDee

3 hours ago, arithai12 said:

Ah ah thank you it's always good to start the day with a good laugh.

Why would you laugh wrt Apple?

3 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Buy from Alibaba?- no way.  I refuse to purchase anything made in China -including the I-phone. They may take over the World but not on my money. Let the buyer beware.

 

I'm old enough to remember a time when people said exactly the same thing about good from Japan and Hong Kong.

 

Make no mistake about it, the future is China, like it or not. And among the copious amount of <deleted>, they produce some of the worlds best electronics. Huawei, Oppo, Vivo et al beat western goods hands down. The el cheapo knock-offs are easily as bad as Thailand makes but be careful and China will beat anything else on the market.

 

Just wish they'd do something to fix up the compost heap that is Thailand. Invade it or blow it up or tow it out to sea and sink it for another Spratley Island or something...

 

My opinion.

58 minutes ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

I'm old enough to remember a time when people said exactly the same thing about good from Japan and Hong Kong.

 

Make no mistake about it, the future is China, like it or not. And among the copious amount of <deleted>, they produce some of the worlds best electronics. Huawei, Oppo, Vivo et al beat western goods hands down. The el cheapo knock-offs are easily as bad as Thailand makes but be careful and China will beat anything else on the market.

 

Just wish they'd do something to fix up the compost heap that is Thailand. Invade it or blow it up or tow it out to sea and sink it for another Spratley Island or something...

 

My opinion

I do believe Thailand should adopt the am pm style of time. And metric system used everywhere.  inches, gone,  banned. Bye bye feet. So long mile.