citybiker Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 So the 120,000 people who have died due to the unnecessary imposition of austerity is the price to be paid to keep labour out of office?Ask Labour, they were a significant contributing factor that got the U.K. into economic strife.If Labour were a serious opposition with viable and credible policies then perhaps today’s politics would be different in the current form, unfortunately JC under Labour are a basket case party, nothing else.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 10 hours ago, citybiker said: Ask Labour, they were a significant contributing factor that got the U.K. into economic strife. If Labour were a serious opposition with viable and credible policies then perhaps today’s politics would be different in the current form, unfortunately JC under Labour are a basket case party, nothing else. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Good god - the house is on fire and all you can do is carp on about the previous inhabitants. This is not about Labour - it is about the morally and ideologically corrupt Tory party literally destroying the lives of people in this country and abroad. There is no point pussy footing around this. Dramatic as it may sound, if you vote tory, you have enabled them to kill thousands and thousands of normal, innocent people in the UK, Yemen, Syria and god knows where else - you have their blood on your hands. But why don't you tell me about how utterly awful life might be under Labour? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Well this is a fine pickle in which we find ourselves! The Cons are incompetent self serving and are making appalling decisions. The country is going down in too many ways to list However, Labour are just too awful to contemplate as an alternative I feel quite disenfranchised. We need to change our voting system away from FPTP. Only good news is that UKIP are dead (except at the seaside I expect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted May 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Grouse said: Well this is a fine pickle in which we find ourselves! The Cons are incompetent self serving and are making appalling decisions. The country is going down in too many ways to list However, Labour are just too awful to contemplate as an alternative I feel quite disenfranchised. We need to change our voting system away from FPTP. Only good news is that UKIP are dead (except at the seaside I expect) Utterly depressing, isn't it? Almost everyone can see just how screwed we are, and just how we have allowed our politicians to gut our system from the inside solely to suit their own self interest, yet there is no sign of anything or anyone who might be able to change it. As they say, we get the politicians we deserve. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Good to see UKIP taking the drubbing they deserve. Sad to see the Tories not getting the drubbing they deserve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 @GrouseDisenfranchised is a fair analysis & summary.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Good to see UKIP taking the drubbing they deserve. Sad to see the Tories not getting the drubbing they deserve. What's tangibly clear is the return to two party politics.UKIP's job is done & completed, survival is a matter of course for them.Labour has I proved, however they should have done much better.Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, RuamRudy said: But why don't you tell me about how utterly awful life might be under Labour? Bloody awful... Glum faces as Labour watch the the votes being counted in Birmingham, living in Brum where they pussy footed around last year when the so called bin strike where the bin men lost very little pay but did very little work and subcontractors had to be brought in at a big cost to us rate payers, Labour could not organise a piss up in a brewery... and now are paying the cost with losses to Tories, Lib Dems and even the Greens are picking up their fist seat in the city. UKIP R.I.P. Edited May 4, 2018 by Basil B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Grouse said: We need to change our voting system away from FPTP. Only when Labour realise they will never get overall control again will the be any chance of changing the voting system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, RuamRudy said: Good to see UKIP taking the drubbing they deserve. Sad to see the Tories not getting the drubbing they deserve. The UKIP rondents had to run somewhere. Don't worry, it's infectious! http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44002060 Edited May 4, 2018 by Grouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I expect UKIP will struggle to survive in current guise by the next GE.I notice in a few MSM sources that Corybn is being slated (or impoded) within his own MP's for not taking decisive action over Anti-semism, harsh lesson for a possible reckless government in waiting.Labour's poor leadership &party has taken its toll in a period which it should be rebuilding, strengthing and showing the electorate it's a worthy credible alternative. The UKIP rondents had to run somewhere. Don't worry, it's infectious! http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44002060Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, citybiker said: I expect UKIP will struggle to survive in current guise by the next GE. I notice in a few MSM sources that Corybn is being slated (or impoded) within his own MP's for not taking decisive action over Anti-semism, harsh lesson for a possible reckless government in waiting. Labour's poor leadership &party has taken its toll in a period which it should be rebuilding, strengthing and showing the electorate it's a worthy credible alternative. Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk I doubt anti-Semitism registers as an issue of concern across most of the UK. But you are correct regarding Labour rebuilding and offering an alternative: Corbyn has raised Labour Party membership to in excess of 200,000 and has established a platform of policies that stand in stark contrast to the Tories on housing, healthcare, education, welfare, workers’ rights, pensions, wealth distribution, healthcare, transport, energy, water, the environment, foreign policy.... Spend some time listening to Corbyn speak rather than what the rightwing press wish you to believe. Edited May 4, 2018 by Chomper Higgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here It Is Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Corbyn? Abbott? No thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I doubt anti-Semitism registers as an issue of concern across most of the UK. But you are correct regarding Labour rebuilding and offering an alternative: Corbyn has raised Labour Party membership to in excess of 200,000 and has established a platform of policies that stand in stark contrast to the Tories on housing, healthcare, education, welfare, workers’ rights, pensions, wealth distribution, healthcare, transport, energy, water, the environment, foreign policy.... Spend some time listening to Corbyn speak rather than what the rightwing press wish you to believe.I struggle/tolerate enough with Corybn during PMQ's when I manage it thanks, he's no PM in waiting that's for sure. I concur reference your point about Anti-semism across the UK. Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Here It Is said: Corbyn? Abbott? No thanks. I wonder if you even vote?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here It Is Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: I wonder if you even vote?! Grow up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 corbyn and costello will get nowhere when it comes to crunch time ..are tv LABOR SUPPORTERS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I wonder if you even vote?! I certainly do even in Thailand where I live I have a vote in the UK. Do you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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